Tough to see how Magic can rebound

Tough to see how Magic can rebound

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Grant

West Monroe, LA

#1 May 5, 2008
Yada yada yada, this is the same guy who declared the Magic wouldn't make the playoffs. Mark my word, we'll be going back to Detroit tied 2-2. We beat ourselves tonight, not so much what Detroit did. We won't beat ourselves like this at home. We're just going to have to find a way to steal one in Detroit.
Ben

Port Huron, MI

#2 May 5, 2008
First of all, thereís not much you can do about the clock stopping - the NBA rules are flawed. The only way that scenario could have an agreeable outcome is if they were allowed a do-over. Look: if they count the three, itís not fair because the clock would have ran out before Billups let go of the ball. But not counting the three wouldnít be fair either, because the players are checking the clock and thinking they still have time left. Stuckey would have taken the shot before he even passed the ball because the clock would have only had a couple of ticks left. In fact, thatís probably why he passed it at the last second: because he saw the clock.
Rob

United States

#4 May 5, 2008
Mike,
I know the Magic cost themselves that game tonight,(all the darn turnovers, 1-9 from 3 in the 4th, and only 2 FGs in the the last 7mins) and the refs shouldn't be blamed, but correct me if I'm wrong about this: If the refs had caught that the clock had stopped (or not started) any time before a shot had been taken, when the shot-clock is off, would they not have just retaken out the ball with 5.1 seconds on the clock again? So why could they not just do that after a shot had been made? Clearly they had no idea how many seconds really did come off the clock, so why just guess?
Kyle

United States

#5 May 5, 2008
The refs start and stop the clock. They have a little black box on there hip.
Curse of the Fan-attic

Wildwood, FL

#6 May 6, 2008
Until the Fan-attic is rebuilt to its original glory, the Magic will never win an NBA title.

The jinx lives.
THE SHADOW KNOWS

Kissimmee, FL

#7 May 6, 2008
Magic will learn to finish one of these days.
Magic Man Shake n Bake

Gaithersburg, MD

#8 May 6, 2008
Look, the Magic made awful decisions at the end of the game, and I swear Rashard Lewis got confused as to what team he played for with his passing. BUT, lets not let the refs off the hook with this one, because of that. This was one of the most one-sided refereed games I've seen since Michael Jordan played for the Bulls. The Pistons got every call when it mattered. First, you have the three at the end of third. Second, you have the Turkoglu offensive board that is hacked out of his hands by Ratliff and the ball is awarded to Detroit. Third, you have Nelson who was arguably the hottest Magic shooter getting his 6th on a play away from the ball. Fourth, you get Dooling called for the foul before the inbound where Hamilton was a little out of control and got tangled up in Dooling's feet. I'm not saying that any of these couldn't have been called, but it is the collective effect of all of these calls that really made the game impossible for the Magic in the closing minutes of the game.
CollegeParker

Christmas, FL

#9 May 6, 2008
Mike ... we can go back and say the same thing and pull Detroits game apart also. I looked at the Doolings foul and it looked incidental to me ... if anything ... Hamilton baited the refs. I also want to know where the foul was when Jameer got knocked on the floor in a crowd and fouled out. If anything ... the refs should have let the game play itself out ESPECIALLY for the clock screw up! Na Mike that game was taken away from the Magic by the clock operator and the refs! Your arguement holds no weight!
jack32174

Jacksonville, FL

#10 May 6, 2008
Mike, you're right. The magic cost themselves the game. Dooling's foul was the exact same foul he commited against Calderon of Toronto near the end of a game that gave Toronto the ball. Hedo consistantly throws up wild shots near the end of regulation when the Magic are behind and why does every team try to get home court advantage in the playoffs if it is not to their advantage to do so???
WIth that said, I thought the Magic played hard, but lost their composure when things got tight at crunch time. I guess teams really do have to learn how to win... that is what it appears the Magic are doing right now...learning how to win.
GO MAGIC!!

Since: Mar 07

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#11 May 6, 2008
Can't actually disagree with Bianchi too much here. As much as the officiating last night was ridiculously bad, none of the referees caused Hedo to jack up wild shots or run head first into defenders and get offensive fouls. They didn't make Lewis take an off balance layup in the final minute. And for every call that went against the Magic, Orlando's players had a bonehead play up their sleeve to match it and double the problem.

We now have to fight back at Amway. It is quite simple - come out of this homestand with anything less than two wins, and it is over. I don't think it is beyond the Magic to steal one game at the Palace, but if they drop a game at home, there is no way Orlando takes the two they would need in Detroit. The score must be 2-2 come Saturday - then there is a simple, 3 game series in which anything could happen.
Trav

Orlando, FL

#12 May 6, 2008
The Pistons are getting Old and they play dirty....Its only a matter of time till the Magic's young legs either wear them down as the series goes on or come back next year and do our version of Hornets Vs. Spurs...
Pistonfan

Lake Orion, MI

#13 May 6, 2008
Clock incident aside - that was tuff - you had your chance to steal one here. Rookie jitters especialy Turkeyloo cost you the game. Frankly the Pistons did not look right most of the game - I still do not understand all this one-on-one they are running - but you can't argue the result. The thinking is probably that Orlando is younger so all the motion offense will do is wear down the older Pistons and if you can beat them in slow motion with four players watching one - then why not. The defensive rotation was way slow last night and Orlando stepped up in the third - this could be a series yet? I will say that to a man Orlando looked much better last night. I think both team could do withou the tickey tack foul calls - this is the playoffs fo crisake - let them play.
TragicFan

Winter Garden, FL

#14 May 6, 2008
Trav wrote:
Come back next year and do our version of Hornets Vs. Spurs...
Always next year for the Magic - Always next year....
sentinel dude

Orlando, FL

#15 May 6, 2008
clock operator has one job to do. guess thats one job to many....but i understand you can't blame the game on him.
Pistonfan

Lake Orion, MI

#16 May 6, 2008
CollegeParker wrote:
Mike ... we can go back and say the same thing and pull Detroits game apart also. I looked at the Doolings foul and it looked incidental to me ... if anything ... Hamilton baited the refs. I also want to know where the foul was when Jameer got knocked on the floor in a crowd and fouled out. If anything ... the refs should have let the game play itself out ESPECIALLY for the clock screw up! Na Mike that game was taken away from the Magic by the clock operator and the refs! Your arguement holds no weight!
This game WAS NOT taken away from Orlando - seems some fans need to grow into playoff winners instead of winers - Orlando could have changes the outcome in any number of ways - free throws... and if you let yourself (the team that is) get into a situation where the refs or whatever can make the difference, then you just didn't take control of your own destiny - which is what good teams do. Just look at how the Pistons handled the last three minutes versus Orlando's jitters, turnovers, poor shot selection...
Mr Yu

Longwood, FL

#17 May 6, 2008
The line : Pistons - 6 for game 2. Weird , huh?
Forrest Trump

Orlando, FL

#18 May 6, 2008
Dwight and Rashard have been committing alot of turnovers. But what's happen to Turkoglu? It seems like most of his turnovers are unforced. Does Prince have him on lockdown like that. I swear he's becoming a turnover machine with all his dumb decisions. For some reason I still like the Magic chances to win the series. We haven't played our best ball yet and it seems like we've figured Detriot out for the most part on defense and can score on them whenever. The Magic can still win the series IMO. I mean everyone is crying but if you look at it for a different point of view we almost tied the series 1-1 and had Detroit nervous. We will learn and if the Magic play the same way this is going 7 games. Look at it from this point, compare game 1 to game 2, we almost won and still haven't played to our potential yet. Only thing we're missing is experience.
mich-pistonfan in orlando

Orlando, FL

#19 May 6, 2008
Whaaaaa whaaaa whaaaaa! The Pistons cheat! The refs cost us the game! In order to beat the champ you gotta knock him out. You won't win a decision. Orlando has to knock the Pistons out. Example, don't whine about an end of third period shot that shouldn't have counted! You had A WHOLE QUARTER TO REBOUND! This is as bad as the Gator fans saying the ACC refs were for Michigan in this years Citrus Bowl. Give me a break! It was a HOME GAME and the head ref had a SOUTHERN DRAWL. If I'm not mistaken there are no Michigan teams in the ACC, but there sure is a Florida team! Florida fans can't win gracefuly or lose without it being someone else's fault!
Forrest Trump

Orlando, FL

#20 May 6, 2008
I shouldn't say we can score on Detroit whenever, but we can get better shots on them now.
CollegeParker

Kissimmee, FL

#21 May 6, 2008
Pistonfan wrote:
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This game WAS NOT taken away from Orlando - seems some fans need to grow into playoff winners instead of winers - Orlando could have changes the outcome in any number of ways - free throws... and if you let yourself (the team that is) get into a situation where the refs or whatever can make the difference, then you just didn't take control of your own destiny - which is what good teams do. Just look at how the Pistons handled the last three minutes versus Orlando's jitters, turnovers, poor shot selection...
What the hell is a Piston Fan all the way up in Detroit reading our paper for??? Face it ... you have one of the most crupt city in the US and it carries on in the Palace! We're the Magic, your the Pistons ... we aren't going to get the calls. Grant it ... Hedo played like C R A P in the end but when your getting all the calls going against ya, it's hard to maintain your composer. I still want to see the mysterious Jameer foul off the ball.

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