Stan's starters hold minutes monopoly

Magic Coach Stan Van Gundy isn't making any promises, but he is getting concerned about the cobwebs growing around the end of his bench. Full Story
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KENNETH NEGRON

Owensboro, KY

#1 Nov 26, 2007
you need to put reddick to play more he cant shot more 3 and help not forget him on the bench .or trade for a rebound person like artest trade garrity and redick get artest he is unhappy there i magine him and howard monsters
red1

Lady Lake, FL

#2 Nov 26, 2007
The trade for Cook and Evans gives the team the bench talent to compliment the starting five, and they should be able to take up some of the slack. Van Gundy probably wouldn't mention it if he didn't have an idea on how to get the bench more involved, so I expect to see at least two bench guys playing over twenty min a game here soon.
BullSh1t

United States

#3 Nov 26, 2007
Let them play all season long as long as they are winning. They are not "babies"; they are professional athlete$. If I was on a team I would want to play from beginning to end every night.

Play On!
james

AOL

#4 Nov 26, 2007
arroyo needs to be traded ASAP !!!!!
Jameeka

United States

#5 Nov 26, 2007
Trade Arroyo, he is horrible. As for Cook and Evans? What a horrible trade. Why take on this garbage? That trade made absolutley no since.
polishdad

Bethpage, NY

#6 Nov 26, 2007
Maybe all of you "JJ Redick is the greatest shooter in the world" and other Magic malcontents should start up a "fire Van Gundy" campain. Thee is no pleasing you people.

Ariza had no place to go with the Magic at small forward. He is better off in LA and I am happy form him. I'm not sure why we need another guard unless Arroyo is on the trading block. Not a good marketing move with the Hispanic population.

Nobody with half a brain would want to bring in Ron Artest and destroy this team's chemistry.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#7 Nov 26, 2007
KENNETH NEGRON wrote:
you need to put reddick to play more he cant shot more 3 and help not forget him on the bench .or trade for a rebound person like artest trade garrity and redick get artest he is unhappy there i magine him and howard monsters
What is your OBSESSION with Ron Artest? He is not a power forward, and he is not a great rebounder, so he doesn't even fit the criteria you asked for! He is also a chemistry destroying headcase. And Reddick doesn't 'need' to play - the shooting of Lewis, Turk, Bogans, Nelson, Cook, and Evans is more than enough. Reddick needs to develop the other areas of his game to crack the rotation.

The Magic, and Magic fans, need to consider that players who are 1) big, 2) can really shoot (fitting into SVGs system) and 3) are also monsters on the boards are not very common. Those are three of the most desirable talents an NBA player can have. To have all three makes that player very valuable, and the odds of picking one up for a Trevor Ariza, a Pat Garrity or a JJ Redick are none existent. What the Magic have done in the trade with L.A is pick up a big body who can shoot (Cook), and a player who fits the defensive, athletic role of Ariza in Evans. SVG has said that Evans needs to get in shape - if he does, there is no reason why he can't be a fairly good rebounder. He has the size, he is fairly athletic, so if SVG can instill in Cook the desire to crash the boards, he will do ok.
JOHN

Melbourne, FL

#8 Nov 26, 2007
JAMEEKA,
I LOVED ARIZA, BUT YOU AVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
JOHN

Melbourne, FL

#9 Nov 26, 2007
ARTEST IS A WACK JOB IN CASE NOBODY NOTICED. HE HAS GOOD NUMBERS, BUT WINNING IS MOST IMPORTANT. ARTEST BRINGS TEAMS DOWN.
Don

Oviedo, FL

#10 Nov 26, 2007
Ariza trade was a smart one, on paper,as he did not fit in to the SVG system. He did not have a perimiter shot, which means they didnt guard him on the perimiter and closed in towards howard. I love seing the ball passed from one side of the court from Turk, to Jameer to Lewis, to Bogans. Any one of those 4 can hit the shot and defenses are having to stay with them, so either we hit the 3 or they dump it back in to Dwight for a dunk.Also any one of those four can slash from the 3 point line to the rim. Ariza could do the slash part thats it. Cook is another big guy that can shoot ,thereby extending the defense off Howard still. Evans, I think has a chance to take the start from Bogans. On paper any way. I did like Ariza though, he won several games for us last year.
Orlandodolphin

Orlando, FL

#11 Nov 26, 2007
Put faith in your coach folks.
shine

United States

#12 Nov 26, 2007
I don't know anything about Cook or Evans. Let's give them a chance before we label the trade as foolish.
Luke

United States

#13 Nov 26, 2007
Trade Arroyo because he's always a show-off, commits charging fouls but most of all--inconsistent! Play Maurice Evans, Brian Cook & James Augustine more. If Redick can be consistent night in and night out in scoring, then it wouldn't bother me a bit if he can't defend. Unfortunately, he is inconsistent and has a chronic bad back so trade him. Pat Garrity has been in this league long enough he knows he's a spot-up shooter but still continues to make erratic jump shots. No wonder SVG has lost faith in him.
Literate

Orlando, FL

#14 Nov 26, 2007
I'd like to see us develop an enforcer, such as Zoe for the Heat, or the way the Lakers used Rambus in their Shaq days. I'm hoping that Cook can, in addition to keeping the floor spread, put a hurting on the replaceable big men other teams are using to batter Dwight.

Kudos to coach; I love the matchup problems we create for most teams with his offense. The rare teams with two big guards (Detroit) remain a problem, but the comparisons to last years letdown are lame. We've lost to three good teams, and beaten three good teams (Celts, Cavs, and Hornets). We're not winning by luck, like early last year. We're winning because we're the better team. I was at the Heat game, and it seemed to me that they played about as well as they can, yet we were never in danger. In the third, from right under the home basket, I marvelled at Wade's ability to drive and score quickly, but we pulled farther ahead all the while. I love this team. This is the most fun I've had being a Magic fan. Thanks, Coach!
Jameeka

United States

#15 Nov 26, 2007
Trading a athletic sf that can defend oposing teams best players (Ariza) for some PF that could not get off the bench in LA and avg 1.5 pnts a game and a rebound or two is the dumbest move to date by the magic and there have been many. Yes, maybe Ariza did not fit, but neither of those two do either. I guess the word "fit" means you don't complain about getting no playing time. Even That fat ass Van Gundy says his lack of developing players is not a good thing. No kidding, well then how about changing your stupid practice of not developing players? Its like a fat guy that says he need to lose weight in the worst way, but does nothing at all to lose weight. SVG is not a very smart guy, but who is in sports today? Maybe 1% of the people involved. They should not have traded ariza for junk. They shoulkd have saved him and packaged him with Arroyo, garity's expiring contract's to bring in a real player at eh trading deadline when teams that are not going to make the playoff's are looking to aquire team friendly contracts.

And to the clown that say Artest would be a bad trade. You people are stupid.. Artest is no model citizen and I would never hang with a clown like that, but if you don't think he would be the huge missing piece to this team that would make them legitimate contenders, then you don't know anything about basketball.
Artest as a person is a moron, Artest as a player on the magic would be about the best fit you could ever dream of if you are a true magic fan.
Shaq

Santa Ana, CA

#16 Nov 26, 2007
Move the magic to Mobile Alabama and they'll be better off
magic fan 723

Orlando, FL

#17 Nov 26, 2007
We do need a enforcer.

The picture in sundays paper look like shaq was trying to choke Howard out of the game. I guess throwing his shoulders and elbows aren't working for him anymore so he has gone to a choke hold.

“Longtime Magic Fan”

Since: Jun 07

Orlando

#19 Nov 26, 2007
Mitchell: It was Cook, not Evans, that coach said needs to get in shape.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#20 Nov 26, 2007
Jameeka wrote:
Trading a athletic sf that can defend oposing teams best players (Ariza) for some PF that could not get off the bench in LA and avg 1.5 pnts a game and a rebound or two is the dumbest move to date by the magic and there have been many. Yes, maybe Ariza did not fit, but neither of those two do either. I guess the word "fit" means you don't complain about getting no playing time. Even That fat ass Van Gundy says his lack of developing players is not a good thing. No kidding, well then how about changing your stupid practice of not developing players? Its like a fat guy that says he need to lose weight in the worst way, but does nothing at all to lose weight. SVG is not a very smart guy, but who is in sports today? Maybe 1% of the people involved. They should not have traded ariza for junk. They shoulkd have saved him and packaged him with Arroyo, garity's expiring contract's to bring in a real player at eh trading deadline when teams that are not going to make the playoff's are looking to aquire team friendly contracts.
And to the clown that say Artest would be a bad trade. You people are stupid.. Artest is no model citizen and I would never hang with a clown like that, but if you don't think he would be the huge missing piece to this team that would make them legitimate contenders, then you don't know anything about basketball.
Artest as a person is a moron, Artest as a player on the magic would be about the best fit you could ever dream of if you are a true magic fan.
If Ariza could defend the opposing teams' best player night after night, he would not have been traded, he would have been playing 35mpg. You are complaining about Cook not getting off the bench in LA, but Ariza couldn't get off the bench in Orlando - he's hardly going to have high trade value if he can't crack the rotation. The key word with Ariza was potential - he COULD be a great player, and he seems like he has the attitude to do so, but right now he is raw materials. And if you can't see how Brian Cook and Maurice Evans fit in Orlando, you clearly know nothing about basketball - both are good outside shooters (Cook in particular) and their presence on the court makes Dwight Howard even more dangerous. Opponents could stand off Trevor Ariza and double Dwight because he isn't a good shooter.

And Artest - tell me where he has brought success? Because what I see is a guy with a bad attitude, on and off the court. This is his career.

Chicago:
1999-2000 - 17-65
2000-2001 - 15-67
2001-2002 - 12-40 at time of trade to Indiana

Indiana:
2001-2002 - 16-13
2002-2003 - 48-34
2003-2004 - 61-21
2004-2005 - 44-38
2005-2006 - 21-20 at time of trade to Sacramento

Sacramento
2005-2006 - 26-14
2006-2007 - 33-49
2007-2008 - 4-9

What a great career. He helped the Pacers to ONE really good season, and they have gone backwards since. Sacramento have gotten progressively worse since they traded for him. Chicago didn't improve a bit whilst he was there. And all the time in the background is Artest complaining about his role, or getting suspended, or taking time off to work on his record label, or getting arrested for spousal abuse. He isn't worth taking the chance on.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#21 Nov 26, 2007
Solar Bear wrote:
Mitchell: It was Cook, not Evans, that coach said needs to get in shape.
Sorry, typo - I meant Cook.

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