Unexpected twists for Miami Heat in r...

Unexpected twists for Miami Heat in rare road win

There are 19 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Nov 18, 2008, titled Unexpected twists for Miami Heat in rare road win. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

This one couldn't have been scripted, at least not as the pregame formula for victory.

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juan

Jonas Ridge, NC

#1 Nov 18, 2008
they should've played beasley more...he was just 3-6 even though he had 4 fouls shouldve played him till he got all 6 wouldve scored more

Since: Jul 08

Reynoldsburg, OH

#2 Nov 18, 2008
juan wrote:
they should've played beasley more.**** he was just 3-6 even though he had 4 fouls shouldve played him till he got all 6 wouldve scored more
according to spolestra beasley has too many defense lapses to play late in games
miaimian

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 Nov 18, 2008
ZOOOOO where are YOUUUUUUU?

“Wasilla Moose Chick for Sale”

Since: Aug 07

Definitely Not Wasilla

#4 Nov 18, 2008
I find it deliciously hilarious that a Miami Heat team where you can still smell the scent of Pat Riley's after shave Aloe gel in the building is playing rookies. Wow, great, rookies and young guys actually playing minutes. RILEY please stay away and don't try another comeback. It is time for change. Riley is McCain and Shaq O'Neal is Sarah Palin ... good riddance to both.
juanp

Miami, FL

#5 Nov 19, 2008
juan wrote:
they should've played beasley more.**** he was just 3-6 even though he had 4 fouls shouldve played him till he got all 6 wouldve scored more
Beasley's on the bench in the 4th because that's where he should be. As a 2nd pick he's a waste. Should have been 5th or 6th pick at best. This ain't Kansas.
Heatastic

New York, NY

#6 Nov 19, 2008
A real constructive win. Spo managed a good feel for the flow of the game. One 2nd half stretch consisted of mostly rotation guys extending the lead with Wade, Haslem and Marion on the bench. It's good to see Anthony finally getting some playing time. He's very limited but can do some things inside.

Again, Ira's cheap shot at this Beasley for Butler comment is an example of Ira not really knowing the game. The kid is 19 vs a vet. What are you talking about Ira...make some sense. He's a work in progress. Stick his butt in a weight room and give him some time. If Butler was so great why is this is 3rd team?
Dolphinatik

Boston, MA

#7 Nov 19, 2008
Beasley got 3 of those fould trying hard to defend a cutting scorer. He should be left in to foul out. yes he was 3 for but he also kept losing the ball off the dribble and getting striped. I think that was the reason for the benching more than the defense.

Joel Anthony Needs to start at center. He had some ferocious blocks and you can tell the Wizards altered their game when he was in the middle.
Stan Marsh

Miami, FL

#8 Nov 19, 2008
I don't know about any of you, but I'm getting sick of this anti-Beasley talk. Yo, it's eleven games into his rookie season, back the fvck off. He was the right player to take at number 2 because he was the best player available. He's 19, he still has a lot of growing to go, both physically and mentally. And he's playing power foward at 6'8 and holding his own.

Seriously, everyone knew coming out that he had his shortcomings defensively; but you don't draft a guy that high because he can defend, if anything that's a plus (unless he's a center).

The only other guy I would have taken ahead of him would have been Rose; and he was off the board, and no, do not talk about O.J. Mayo. Especially given the fact we have Dwyane Wade, who plays, in essence the same game, but better.

O.J. Mayo plays on a team with no established stars, in an offense where he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants, on a team in where defense is not a priority. Beasley on the otherhand plays second fiddle to Wade on a team where defense is and has been the priority for the last 12 years. Pat Riley and his disciples don't coach offense. The offense here is, give the ball to Wade. Period.

Keep in mind, we have two young point guards, including a rookie starter, who at times make their share of mistakes and on a number of occasions not gotten Beasley the ball in the post when he's had position. Keep in mind, we don't have many 3 pt shooters that can spread the floor for him. It's congested. Run more, open it up. But they don't work on it. It's hard when Wade is your only reliable ballhandler in the open court. All I'm saying is be patient with him.
Steve from DC

Washington, DC

#9 Nov 19, 2008
I'm happy to say that I was at the game last night. Joel Anthony's shot blocking and rebounding was impressive as was Mario Chalmers' overall game. Daequan Cook looked good too although he looks tiny compared to the other players. hehe.

This is the first time that I have attended a Heat game in two years and I left the building thinking that they have a ligitimate shot to make the 5th or 6th seed this year. Go Heat!
Bullshark

Hialeah, FL

#10 Nov 19, 2008
Totally agree, this guy has talent if you give him time to develop. Heat's biggest problems lie elsewhere...
Frank

Coral Gables, FL

#11 Nov 19, 2008
Heatastic wrote: "Again, Ira's cheap shot at this Beasley for Butler comment is an example of Ira not really knowing the game. The kid is 19 vs a vet. What are you talking about Ira.**** make some sense. He's a work in progress. Stick his butt in a weight room and give him some time. If Butler was so great why is this is 3rd team?"

A-friggin-men!

The kid has played all of 11 games in the NBA, not all as a starter. He will stumble and fall - a lot - during this season, but he has a bright future. Hell, Wade was 16 PPG, 75% FT and 4 RPG in his rookie season. Beasley is 15.4/87%/5.6 so far. I would say they are pretty damn comparable numbers.

He'll learn to box out better, to be more aggressive going to the rim and experience what all other teams will throw at him. He won't learn that in a film session or in practice, but by banging and getting banged and also getting humbled.

He owned up to his miserable night by saying he needs to get back to work, but to hear Ira Wind-er-bag, he is a complete waste of a draft pick.
mydrick taylor

Hollywood, FL

#12 Nov 19, 2008
overall the heat played good until we get a big in the middle these guys are going to have to work together in order to keep these other bigs contained in that paint cause guys like bosh, nowitski, and other dominate centers and powerforward in the league are gonna destroy us but i always have faith in my heat nothing but faith.
Heatastic

New York, NY

#13 Nov 19, 2008
Thanks Frank! Ira just unloaded on Chalmers the game before...why? Chalmers already has shown he was a steal... yet Ira seems to nitpick both Chalmers and Beasley every time they take a step back. Just think if the Heat had a legit center to draw some attention. Shouldn't Ira stick his nose in that?
miamiheat

AOL

#14 Nov 19, 2008
why was it unexpected u dum b!tches we beat them last game why wouldent we beat them this game.Dum ass sun-sentinal shhiit.Fuq u ira u fat fk.Write something good about the heat fat fk all u can think about is eatting!
Frank

Coral Gables, FL

#15 Nov 19, 2008
Hey Heatastic, you just told it like it is, dude.

My theory is that Ira Wind-er-bag is the "new breed" of reporters. They don't feel they are doing their job if there is no destructive criticism, lest they be thought of as "homers."

I don't question his knowledge of basketball amd I enjoy his columns regarding other teams in the NBA, but geez, would it hurt to interlace his criticism with some pragmatic comments? In the "other" paper, the one who has Linda Robertson, AKA the other Nattering Nabob of Negativity, their beat writer commented on Beasley's candor and accountability when the kid said that he needed to get his tail working on some shortcomings.

Ira conveniently left that out so he could concentrate on just dumping on the kid. That isn't reporting, that is dispensing his own version of the the news.
neyizhsalo

United States

#16 Nov 19, 2008
juanp wrote:
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Beasley's on the bench in the 4th because that's where he should be. As a 2nd pick he's a waste. Should have been 5th or 6th pick at best. This ain't Kansas.
Kansas State anyway. Looking at Chalmers Kansas seems to have actually heard of defense.

He is no JWill.
juanp

Miami, FL

#17 Nov 19, 2008
neyizhsalo wrote:
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Kansas State anyway. Looking at Chalmers Kansas seems to have actually heard of defense.
He is no JWill.
Duh!
dduck

Whigham, GA

#18 Nov 19, 2008
Why bench Beasley when he gets 4 fouls it isn't like they play him at the end of the game anyway.

I guess Spo didn't like the pick he set on Wade that that freed up Wades guy to get to the middle where it turned into an ally-oop to the guy B-easy was guarding originally.

I don't understand why they don't use his strength and allow him to score; especally when Wade is on the bench and they can't even get a decent shot off. Marion play D but misses wide open 5 footers.

Quinn gets minutes and he can't guard me.
dduck

Whigham, GA

#19 Nov 19, 2008
Mayo is not the best Rookie. Rose 1; Beasley 2 & OJ 3 is still the order. Mayo is putting up big points on a team with nothing else. Beasley would be putting up huge scoring numbers if he was so unfortunate as to play for the Griz.

Mayo is a SG and we already have a pretty good one here last I checked. Mayo's assist numbers are not much better than Beasley's per 48 min (.5 diff)

If Beasley figures out how to play team D and gets stronger he will be great. Think about how much stronger and better anybody gets from 19 -to - 25. He has a skill that is very unique at his size. From all accounts he is a hard worker; just a bit immature.

he may turn into a SF at some point with improved handles. Jamal Mashburn was no defensive stopper; similar player. Hopefully Beasley isn't a choker like the monster Mash.

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