Riley worried about Wade's health

Heat coach Pat Riley expressed continued concern Monday about the health of guard Dwyane Wade. Read more
nba analyst

United States

#1 Jan 8, 2008
CQ can score.
Heat Realist

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#2 Jan 8, 2008
How can Riley say, "Are we on the right track? I think we are, because the team hasn't given up, the team hasn't stopped playing hard."? They definitely are not on the right track. I am sure the Timberwolves haven't stopped playing hard either, but that doesn't change the fact that they are the worst team in the league, followed closely by the Heat. Wade is hurt, Shaq is hurt, Zo is hurt, the majority of the roster is garbage, 8-26, and very little money to work with in the next couple years is not the right track!!!
BLaCKBeaRD

West Palm Beach, FL

#4 Jan 8, 2008
Riley needs to start worrying about who he's going to trade for.
BLaCKBeaRD

West Palm Beach, FL

#5 Jan 8, 2008
Riley has to say that he believes they're on the right track. He can't let his team think he doesn't believe in them. He knows this is not the team that is going to finish the season. If he doesn't do a rehaul trade I'd be baffled.
NC Heater 89

Clayton, NC

#6 Jan 8, 2008
With the team playing so poorly Riley should reduce D Wade' s minutes and replenish the roster with young talented players. The role players we have now are not them.
Wade is the franchise!
ccheath

Bronx, NY

#7 Jan 8, 2008
hi
First post for this year.
It is pretty amazing to me - that Pat is still talking about turning this ship around - when the wise move would be to just keep wade out the lineup until he is 100% and let the losses continue to pile up. As people have pointed out, if the heat makes a run, it still isnt going to get them into the playoffs. Its a better bet to finish with the worst record and take their chances with the lotto balls. The Heat have no cap space this summer - so the draft pick is the ace in the hole. Just let these young heat guys get after it to get some nba experience under their belts (cook,wright,quinn)- thats what this season should be all about.
I watched a couple games - the suns game and the mavs game. In both games, the opposing commentors said the same thing - this team is not playing like its the record. So, all hope is not lost- for next year that is.
If they can get rid of Davis and Williams for draft picks - do the trade. Ricky for one wont resign this offseason anyway - so might as well get something for him now. I wouldnt do the trades for some name player like an Artest - because the heat arent making the playoffs anyway. The things that drives me crazy about Davis is that he makes these comments that its tough and Im sticking it out - but he is responsible (along with others) for the heat getting killed at the end of games. His Minny style of play doesnt work when its strategy and gut check time in the closing minutes.
The name of the game is - get rid of much as you can - get a high draft pick, develop the young guys, and then maybe be in a great free agent position when shaq retires.
Regarding Davis - he can score - but I just dont think he clicks mentally with 2 minutes to go in a game.
Regarding Haslem - A great effort guy - but I see the other team getting all the rebounds and every time Haslem shoots, I have no idea if its going in. In fact, I was surprised what a good shooter Blount is compared to Haslem.
Someone mentioned - trade haslem - that would free up cap space. If they could do that and get a cheaper replacement for Haslem at the same time - I would do that trade.
One other thing. The daily news in New York City mentioned in its predictions for 2008 that shaq and pat will retire. It pretty much said that Arison was the one who demanded that Pat return to coaching this year. I didnt think that was the case. I thought Arisons attitude was - its Pats ship.
THE UGLY TRUTH

Hollywood, FL

#8 Jan 8, 2008
D.Wade is a glass ninja. Touch him and he breaks. While I'm a fan of his, I have to admit he's a drama queen. A special player with chronic injuries and somewhat of a puzzy. Could it be that the best years of his career are behind him? I hope not but I'm not to enouraged.

Oh wait, I think he's out with a stub toe.
JESilver

AOL

#9 Jan 8, 2008
Its time for Reilly to take some responsibility Posey, Kapono. House, Eddie Jones. Defense and spreading the floor. Thats what these guys did for the Heat. Now they are doing it for other teams. And the Heat are now struggling with their defense and guess what.....spreading the other teams defenses. BAD, BAD, BAD trades and now we have a bad bad bad team. This was all reillys decisions nobody else.
Rand

La Grange, IL

#10 Jan 8, 2008
What a mess.
shutup

United States

#11 Jan 8, 2008
THE UGLY TRUTH wrote:
D.Wade is a glass ninja. Touch him and he breaks. While I'm a fan of his, I have to admit he's a drama queen. A special player with chronic injuries and somewhat of a puzzy. Could it be that the best years of his career are behind him? I hope not but I'm not to enouraged.
Oh wait, I think he's out with a stub toe.
Why don't you let me dislocate your shoulder and see how much of a drama queen you become.
heat fan

Boynton Beach, FL

#12 Jan 8, 2008
THE UGLY TRUTH wrote:
D.Wade is a glass ninja. Touch him and he breaks. While I'm a fan of his, I have to admit he's a drama queen. A special player with chronic injuries and somewhat of a puzzy. Could it be that the best years of his career are behind him? I hope not but I'm not to enouraged.
Oh wait, I think he's out with a stub toe.
i am a die hard heat fan but i have to say that wade cannot shoot to save his life, he is the best at taking it in the paint. but he can't shoot. and when he does get an open shot it is because of shaq drawing the double team. i want to see how he does when he does not have shaq to help him. thats when you will see how good of a player he can be. if he can carry a team like bosh and lebron.
mike

North Miami Beach, FL

#13 Jan 8, 2008
the team is just not playing fukin defense because all there defensive players are gooonnne!!!!!!!!!!so get some player to play defense and trade smush ricky and blount for ron artest and one othere player from the team that can help on the defensive end!!!!I h ope they get this win in minnisota or im gonna giv up hope for this team!!!!!!!!!!Pat u did all the wroung things this year by letting posey,kapono and eddie leave!!!!!and also all the wroung trades!!u need to do something fast before this team loses 50 0r more games
SIlent

Kingston, Jamaica

#14 Jan 8, 2008
8-24 huh....where's ricky? oh he's still here....why?...has the trade deadline passed yet?... wanna go 8-74? keep him then.
ccheat

Bronx, NY

#15 Jan 8, 2008
Why ... the Heat should shut it down
By Kelly Dwyer - espn
Monday, Jan 7, 2008 2:21 pm EST
Seriously, shut this mess down. A few moves here and there, and you could have a scary, scary team to work with in 2008-09. Good-scary.
Continue apace? Bad-scary.
Shaquille O'Neal is off to Los Angeles to have further testing done on a dodgy hip that he hurt a few days before Christmas while diving for a loose ball. Nobody knows the extent of the injury other than to say that it could be worse than previously diagnosed (bursitis of the left hip). If it turns up that O'Neal has anything, anything wrong with his left side beyond just a little inflammation, then the Heat need send the Big Fella to bed, and not think twice about it.
We're talking about the 8-26 Miami Heat, in case you forgot. Owners of the second-worst record in the NBA. And this isn't some once-admired group of kids looking in on the playoff bracket from outside, like the Bulls or Jazz. Rather, this is a team on pace to win 20 games. 19.27, actually, but you know Pat Riley will squeeze that extra .73 of a win out of them.
After that, Dwyane Wade needs to take a seat. The Heat guard hasn't looked right all season, he's clearly not recovered from left knee and (especially) shoulder surgeries; and while he didn't exactly suffer through the "indignity" of coming off the bench against the Grizzlies yesterday, it wasn't far off. Sit the man.
If it looks and feels like tanking, then bring him back in late March. Same goes for Shaq. There's no shame in not bringing these guys back until they're both fully recovered. In the meantime, you lose the games you were already going to lose, the youngsters get some minutes, and you start over in 2008-09.
(Also, I'm well aware that losing games doesn't always lead to a draft pick commensurate with your lousy record, but it doesn't hurt. And I don't want to see the comments section littered with hardasses squawking about how the NBA needs to do a better job to get rid of tanking teams, because last year's "tankers" in Boston and Milwaukee got the lowest-possible -- fifth and sixth in the draft, with the worst and second-worst records -- first round picks they could have last year. The lottery system did its job, in case you didn't notice)
In the meantime, Shaq had to realize that his season needs to start sometime in July, and Pat Riley needs to do something beyond just handing this guy 20 million dollars every year and hoping he's in at least passable shape by training camp.
Shaq's hardly morbidly obese, a compulsive eater, or horribly out of shape (Riles says he's down to 321, which is pretty good, honestly); but you wouldn't hand a former drunk or drug addict a check every two weeks and just hope for the best. You follow up on him. You make sure that he knows that just working as hard as everyone else isn't enough.
Shaq now needs to work harder than his opponents, because he can't use pure athletic skill to dominate them (or even break even with them on both ends of the ball) any more. This is on Riley, the coach and the GM, to make the right decisions. If certain things fall into place (a healthy and motivated Shaq, one of the NBA's best players working at full strength, a high draft pick, a competent rotation), he might have something special on his hands.
He better make do with this lot, because Shaq is nigh-on-untradeable and there isn't a lot of room around the edges to work with. Jason Williams' expiring contract may fetch something, while youngsters like Daequan Cook and Chris Quinn are looking solid, but there's nothing on this team that anyone would want besides Wade. So the best Riley can do is work with the players he brought in, and the situation he created for himself.
And, if he keeps returning Wade to help his team slog its way to home loss against the Grizzlies, or bringing Shaq back for the do-or-die tilt with the Knicks on the 19th, then he deserves what he gets.
Ex-Knick_Ex-Heat Fan

Miami Beach, FL

#16 Jan 8, 2008
When is someone going to have the nerve to say the truth. PAT RILEY SUCKS. PAT RILEY SUCKED before van gundy coached the team and PAT RILEY SUCKS now.
PAT RILEY SUCKED when he coached the knicks. Okay, he did a good job of ACTING like the coach of the lakers when KAREEM and MAGIC were running the team.
Also, isn't is strange that VAN GUNDY is no longer concerned about spending time with his family.

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