Pacers finished waiting for return of O'Neal, Tinsley

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just my thoughts

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Feb 25, 2008
While I feel both O'Neil and Tinsley are talented players they are way to injury prone. O'Neil one of the highest paid players while in turn plays the least. Tinsley is 1 game of being injured all the time. The Pacers have made both of these player rich with no return. Neither one of these are leaders and need to go away. As long as these 2 are on the roster fan base is not going to show support to this team. I have been a Pacer fan for 37 years and I have never seen a team that is as non-competive as this one is. So untill I see major changes in this team I will put my Pacer gear in storage and just hope one day in the future I can bring it out.
IPS graduates 46 percent

Greens Fork, IN

#2 Feb 25, 2008
Tinsley couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. Take a look at his shooting percentage (on the court, and yes I had to clarify). He's shooting a whopping 38% from the field, and 28% from three!!!

To put his three point shooting in perspective, only one person in the NBA who as attempted as many threes as Jamaal shoots a lower percentage (and thatís by 1/10th of a percentage)!

As for his field goal shooting (again not guns), heís one of the worst in the NBA. Of people who have attempted 400 shots (140 players) only 2 shoot a lower percentage than Jamaal!

Can someone please explain to me why the Pacers just donít offer him a buyout?
joe

Roselle, IL

#3 Feb 25, 2008
At this point the Pacers should look to this year draft and get someone in the the lottery. The trade deadline has pass and no moves at all. It seems clear that everyone on this team. From management to the Players know this is a lost cause. JO should sit out and Tinsley too, for the rest of the season. Reason maybe the Pacers stand a better chance of getting somebody in NBA lottery that isn't so injury prone, that can help this team out.
Somebody please tell Coach Jim to play S. Gramham.

Since: Feb 08

Greens Fork, IN

#4 Feb 25, 2008
Let me guess .... the players still receive their full contract pay while sitting out .. right?

Go figure!
joe

Roselle, IL

#5 Feb 25, 2008
Just for the record wrote:
Let me guess .... the players still receive their full contract pay while sitting out .. right?
Go figure!
Unfornately that's the system. And in order for this team to improve this is the game this team chose to play(remember No Trade movement). Don't hate the player Hate the game they chose to play!!!!!!!!!!
Pacers

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Feb 25, 2008
Fire JT and JO. Fire Larry Bird as well. Larry Bird wants a roster full of slow white players, who can't play worth a crap. You think you are mad now Pacers fans, watch in this draft, Bird will draft some European player no has heard of and end up being a bust. I can just see it coming.

Also, can someone please play defense. Everyone looks slow and confused out there.
narzpt

Cotabato City, Philippines

#7 Feb 25, 2008
Yeah!!! you should work hard mr.O'neal
coz your getting older and you stock is not that much high nowadays, your on the block.
narzpt

Cotabato City, Philippines

#8 Feb 25, 2008
if they just agree to trade mr.o'neal for odom last year none of this misery will happen,I pity those who run the pacers and their cohorts.
joe

Roselle, IL

#9 Feb 25, 2008
To fire Larry, I agree. OJ, I mean JO and JT it seems like we're stuck with the bad. But this team that is dressing and playing. Is only two players away from being a major player in this league. A POINTGUARD, and Center/Powardforward that can score. Isn't it sad that what this team of roll players need is on sick leave.
Freedom76

Collinsville, MS

#10 Feb 25, 2008
They should have traded the entire team for Oden last year and built the franchise around him...
Johnny Cochran

United States

#11 Feb 25, 2008
JUst rest fellas so you'll be can full healed and ready for your new team...next season.

What do you say....we ship JO somewhere and get Darko in return. And we can get 3rd riund pick got JT.

Better yet....why don't we send JO, JT and Larry Bird packing and start all over. The Bird experiment needs to be over. Just because you could play the game doesn't mean you can coach it or be a GM.
Pacer fan

Mentor, OH

#13 Feb 25, 2008
I am a tried and true Pacer fan, but JT should have been shipped out last year. He is nothing but trouble, from his personal life on down. So his knee hurts, get over it. You are still getting paid for it. Be a real man PLAY BALl !
JO has a lot more at stake. He is a good player and a team leader, but he needs to play with a little pain also. These two are taking the Pacers no where but the basement, and the last time I saw them they were black men, not white,
Yes and I am not sure it is not time for Bird to retire down south. He can play golf every day down there.
Florida fan

Leesburg, FL

#14 Feb 25, 2008
Jermaine O'Neal has been playing pro basketball for a dozen years. Players that long in the league have diminishing skills. Let's face it, he will never be the player he was a few years ago.
That's the trouble with those guaranteed NBA contracts and until that changes, pro basketball will be a dinosaur league unlike the NFL.
When you no longer can cut the mustard, you are cut. That's the way it is in the real world.
Maybe the NBA needs to wake up and pay attention.
They would then have the respect of the fans and fans back in the seats.
Their salaries are ridiculous and then those that get into trouble make the rest of the players to have a poor reputation.
Maybe, basketball needs to go back to the days of Roger Brown, Freddie Lewis and those guys. They played hard every night and didn't have long term guaranteed contracts.
And the Pacers were fun to watch.
leo

United States

#15 Feb 25, 2008
Does the No Body Attends league(NBA) still exists? And the Pacers still play. Is Roger Brown, Freddie Lewis, Neto, Mel Daniels, George Peoples, Big Mac, Jimmy Rail, Don Buse, Darnell Hillman, Billy Keller, Billy Knight and Clark Kellog still playing? I wish.

Really, nobody cares.use this part of the paper for something useful.
Lets go Hoosiers

United States

#16 Feb 25, 2008
The Pacers are still a couple years at least to getting back to where they should be. JO and Tins should be arrested for holding this city hostage. The Pacers cant even try to get any kind of a deal set up to move them becuase no one wants the garbage if they cant even get on the court.

I really hope the Pacers brass learns from this two, three, four year experience. Dont give 5 year extensions to anybody short of Chris Paul or Lebron James. Make better draft picks. Make better trade decisions.

They are the most inept group of front office people in the NBA. Larry says there are going to be changes next year. Yeah we know. There were changes last year as well. We got that stud Travis Diener and that All Star Kareem Rush.

There will be changes alright. The Simon's just called Larry, time to pack it up and head back to the Lick.
Wake up call

Pendleton, IN

#18 Feb 25, 2008
Good for the rest of the players. It's just too bad that the front office didn't get that same wake up call over a year ago. A trade of value is obviously out of the question. The rest of the league apparently knows what Bird and Walsh would just like to look the other way at. O'Neal and Tinsley have zero trade value. Baggage,dead weight, free loaders and what ever else you care to put on them. oh well. It is the Pacers and the NBA after all. March madness is just a few weeks out and we'll get to enjoy what basketball is and the way it was meant to played. It's not really just the Pacers. They just happen to be part of a dying product.
The Future is Purdue

Apo, AE

#19 Feb 25, 2008
just my thoughts wrote:
I have been a Pacer fan for 37 years and I have never seen a team that is as non-competive as this one is.
Do you remember the early to mid 80's? Those teams were bad...
huhn

United States

#20 Feb 25, 2008
STILL DON'T CARE!
Jeff from Delphi

United States

#21 Feb 25, 2008
This is like the movie Groundhog day. Everyday I wakeup it's the same. Flimsly and O'Squeal are hurt, we can't play defense, we can't make a shot under 5 minutes to go, Bird says things are gonna change, we are a pure perimter shooting team, no fans in the seats, beer cost 6.50, we never make the blockbuster trade, the fans get raped at the expense of cheapskate owners, Indiana is the basketball mecca, Daniels comes in and instantly coughs up a few turnovers, Diener runs around like spit on a griddle, Foster can't create a post move, Dunleavy watches his man blow by him, we miss the playoffs.
coz

Houston, TX

#22 Feb 25, 2008
since the pacers are not going to win a championship or even make the playoffs. Its time to clean house and trade O'NEAL and TINSLEY for a player or players.

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