Theories abound regarding lack of Fie...

Theories abound regarding lack of Fieldhouse sellouts

There are 192 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 12, 2007, titled Theories abound regarding lack of Fieldhouse sellouts. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

This Indiana Pacers' homestand has almost nothing to do with making the playoffs.

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Freebird

Strasburg, CO

#1 Feb 12, 2007
Yes, the players do need to make a great effort to win the fans back; however, I think that Foster's last statement about how zealously the media would cover an exoneration shouldn't be sidestepped like it was irrelevent. The media is a big part of the problem in this country right now. Not just in sports, but in politics and the cultural cesspool we live in now. The media have found that a large percentage of Americans are no longer willing to think for themselves and are more than happy to allow "journalists" to fill their empty little heads. So what will it be, Bob? If their is an exoneration of Tinsley and Daniels, will you have the integrity of an Edward R. Murrow...or a Dan Rather?
Jim

United States

#2 Feb 12, 2007
My neighbor has two boys and used to love taking them to Indy for Pacers games. Last year he said he saw negative role models. I also felt the same way. After going to a bunch of games in previous years, I have not traveled to Indy for a Pacers game for two years
The Pacers have some very good guys and I am ready to return when I see clean play in the game and away from the game. I go to every Colts game for that reason.
I must wait and see what the "new" team does. It is up to you, Pacers.
Speculator

Florence, KY

#3 Feb 12, 2007
The Pacer organization has made more left turns then there are roundabouts in Carmel. Jermaine Oneal is a complete building block for this organization, but in order to have a sound structure the organization needs many, many more pieces. Look at the Pistons, they made mistakes with Darko, Nazr Mohammad, and Flip Murray- but somehow they manage to attract players and win ballgames. Speculator says that if/when the Pacers want their fan base back, then admit when you have made a wrong turn and ask for directions from someone other than Larry Legend and Donnie. Fact is, these guys can not find a roundabout in Carmel and if they did they would still try and turn left.
Yes sir

Ft Mitchell, KY

#4 Feb 12, 2007
Freebird wrote:
Yes, the players do need to make a great effort to win the fans back; however, I think that Foster's last statement about how zealously the media would cover an exoneration shouldn't be sidestepped like it was irrelevent. The media is a big part of the problem in this country right now. Not just in sports, but in politics and the cultural cesspool we live in now. The media have found that a large percentage of Americans are no longer willing to think for themselves and are more than happy to allow "journalists" to fill their empty little heads. So what will it be, Bob? If their is an exoneration of Tinsley and Daniels, will you have the integrity of an Edward R. Murrow...or a Dan Rather?
Well put. As long as we're holding the Pacers' feet to the fire, let's point some more fingers.

Just like the newsmakers they cover, there seems to be precious little integrity left in the once proud field of journalism. In the effort to sensationalize EVERY meager or meaty story, carefully researched facts have been replaced by rumor and innuendo. Top that off with a heapin' helpin' of personal agenda and you have the most unprofessional (and unreliable) reporting imaginable.

Stealing a page from the despots and dictators they are sworn to oppose and expose, journalists have appointed themselves judge, jury and executionor.

Ed Murrow would hardly recognize his former profession, nor would he even be welcome if he were to return today. "This is Edward R. Murrow reporting for Entertainment Tonight..."

Oh, and regarding the Pacers... sorry to say, where there's smoke there's usually fire. And, I don't need a biased, self-serving journalist to tell me there has been way too much smoke coming from the Pacers organization for several years now. Clean it up, Pacers... same goes for you journalists. As goes Pacer attendance so goes ratings and newspaper sales.
bruce a jones

Columbus, OH

#6 Feb 12, 2007
i have been to several games i am from st marys ohio a pacer fan for 40 years it is hard to see a game from the nose bleed seats and lower level seats are 170 or more a game i have nba pass in hd it is hard to beat in surround sound for the same price as one game but did pay to buy 1 game in lower level
rick risley

Greenville, SC

#5 Feb 12, 2007
well when we had steven jackson and ron artest we had team and usually wins to watch. now we have nothing to watch or be interested in watching. we had a winning franchise and now we are sinking to the bottom because have no real leadership at the top. bad boys dont get traded because the gen. mgr gets thier feelings hurt. its time for a change at the top and on the bench. Get someone who can make the star player realize he cannot win without good players, you dont have to like them off the court, just play and do your job and winning will take care of itself. now we have lost so many of our fan favorites, it may be a long time before i feel the pacers are worth the effort to follow them.
NO iNVESTMENT

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Feb 12, 2007
A FEW WINS IS NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR ME OR ALOT OF OTHER FANS. I DON'T LIKE THE PACERS ANYMORE PERIOD. NOT ONE OF THEM CAN SELL THE GIVE THIS TEAM A CHANCE
SLOGAN. A BILL OF GOODS THAT I AM NOT ONTERESTED IN MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN RIGHT NOW IT WILL TAKE THE NEXT SEASON WITH MARCH MADNESS COMING ON I AM STAYING WITH THE COLLEGE GAME GO BUTLER
CAYCH THE PACERS NEXT YEAR
JRB

Fort Thomas, KY

#8 Feb 12, 2007
All it takes is drafting one player of Reggie Miller caliber and the Pacers will be just as popular as they used to be. Jermaine O'neill is not him. Pacers do not have a go to guy!!!
Louisville Pacer

Freetown, IN

#9 Feb 12, 2007
Good article, Bob. Hit the nail on the head, as far as I'm concerned. The Pacers team doesn't get the benefit of the doubt? Imagine that. What planet is Foster living on? The debacle in Detroit was only two years ago. Since then, we have seen shots fired outside of a club, and further incidents that question the maturity of certain members of this team.

It's pretty clear this team is not focused on winning a championship, or even making it to the finals, which is a realistic goal considering the talent level in the East. So, why dig deep in those pockets and pony up the cash to see a team we know will not get past the first round.

The other night on TNT, Ernie Johnson asked Charles Barkley about who will win the East. They went down the list team by team. When Johnson mentioned the Pacers, he could hardly get the word out because he was laughing so hard. Barkley just shook his head, was about to say what he thought, then turned and said, "They can't beat Detroit."

It's not just the local fans that have backed off, but the Pacers are considered a joke on a national basis.

It will take a long stretch of good hard play, and staying out of the clubs, before anyone believes this team is ready to win.

What are they focused on? Not winning a championship, that's for sure.
Louisville Pacer

Freetown, IN

#10 Feb 12, 2007
JRB wrote:
All it takes is drafting one player of Reggie Miller caliber and the Pacers will be just as popular as they used to be. Jermaine O'neill is not him. Pacers do not have a go to guy!!!
I agree totally. Does anyone think Michael Jordan would have put up with this in Chicago?
Big Fella

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Feb 12, 2007
What does it say when the most popular player is Armstrong? The people like supporting players who play hard and have FUN not a sour look on their face. Start smiling on the court and playing hard and the fans will come back.
Kyle

Marlton, NJ

#12 Feb 12, 2007
I agree to a certain extent with your article. I am not currently in the Indianapolis area, but continue to follow the Pacers. This year I decided not to purchase the NBA league pass to follow the Pacers due to all of the off-court problems that they have been having. I realize that nto everyone can have the cleanest of images, but negative things continue to haunt the Pacers ever since the Pistons brawl. I, like many Pacers fans, find it very hard to support a team that has this kind of "thug" attitude. Sure, the lack of consistent play on the basketball court doesn't help, but the fact remains that there is really nobody left for me to really cheer for on the team.
pacercolt99

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Feb 12, 2007
It's all about winning. As the Pacers continue to retool and grow up, the wins will start to add up. More wins will add up to more fans in the seats. Walsh, Bird and the Simons are all winners in their professions. This will turn around.
Choice

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Feb 12, 2007
Not interested any more. Period. Too much off court, in court antics to spend time cheering and wondering what next.
Pacer Fan With Problem

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Feb 12, 2007
Get rid of Rick Carlise and Larry Bird. They neither know how to coach nor do they know how to get good players. Start with the top of the organization then go down to the players. Larry Brown took a Basketball team (Pistons) and turned the into championship team. This was something Rick Carlise could not do (he coached Pistons before Larry Brown).
Pacer watcher

United States

#16 Feb 12, 2007
I haven't watched a Pacer's game on tv all year. I used to circle the games on my calendar.
This is just a hard team to like.
Reflection

Piqua, OH

#17 Feb 12, 2007
Bad decisions, bad players, bad treatment, bad price.

I had season tickets from 1993-2003. The players on the roster just aren't good enough. This year being the exception, usually the advertised product isn't even on the floor... injuries, suspensions, etc. I have been to a couple games this year only to see the majority of fans in the stands cheering for the opposing team. Why... they like them better than the team in blue & gold.

For me, I refuse to pay top dollar to see a bad product get jobbed by the officials every night.

Really? The Pacers are the ONLY team in the league where a player can take the ball to the basket, get nailed by the other team that clearly was in the defensive arc, be KNOCKED UNCONSCIOUS AND HAVE TO BE CARTED OFF ON A STRETCHER... and there not be a foul called. NO FOUL! Granger got knocked unconscious... no foul. Do you think Kobe would get treated like that? If so, seek a 12 step program.
Scott

Cincinnati, OH

#19 Feb 12, 2007
This isn't difficult.

I'm simply not going to give my money to an organization that makes me ashamed -- period.

Since moving here in the early 90s, I've been a huge fan and have gone to countless numbers of games. And I can say without reservation that this year's team is the most uninspiring we've had during that time. There's simply no one to admire -- especially off the court.

Even when the Pacers struggled through the years, I was happily willing to give my money because this was a proud organization with people like Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson, Antonio Davis, Derrick McKey, Rik Smits, etc. These guys played hard, gave a damn about the community, and understood that what they did off the court truly mattered.

The San Antonio Spurs have proven that you don't have to be a thuggish team to win. Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh should take notice.

Until they do, I'll happily spend my money on other things.
Reflection

Piqua, OH

#18 Feb 12, 2007
Pacer Fan With Problem wrote:
Get rid of Rick Carlise and Larry Bird. They neither know how to coach nor do they know how to get good players. Start with the top of the organization then go down to the players. Larry Brown took a Basketball team (Pistons) and turned the into championship team. This was something Rick Carlise could not do (he coached Pistons before Larry Brown).
Need I remind you that Larry Brown's last team was a disaster... The Knicks.

Let's not use Larry Brown or (throw up in my mouth) the Pissedons as a model for success. The Pistons were/are successful because Hitler Stern WANTS them to be successful... period.

Bad idea.
Stick

Mountain Pine, AR

#20 Feb 12, 2007
NBA basketball has become a very boring game. No use to get to a game until the middle of the 3rd qtr. Maybe, just maybe the game will have some excitement by then.

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