Wallace too much for the Pacers

Wallace too much for the Pacers

There are 52 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 29, 2008, titled Wallace too much for the Pacers. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

This wasn't a pivotal game of a playoff series, so there weren't any guarantees flying out of Rasheed Wallace's mouth.

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Jesus F Christ

Jeffersonville, OH

#41 Jan 30, 2008
pawtucket wrote:
we attended a game last week-end cause of a CORPORATE function and the game actually was kind of fun to watch, we lost but it was fun. it just seems like nobody hustles anymore. college ball shows SO much more hustle for so much less personal gain. I'll stick with that until the Pacers put a team together again.
That's ridiculous. Dunleavy plays really hard. Foster plays really hard. Granger plays really hard. So does Daniels, Diener, Williams, Diogu, and Owens.

Harrison doesn't -- he's gone once his contract expires.

Murphy doesn't always play hard, but he normally does. He's just not that good.
Realist

Uniontown, OH

#42 Jan 30, 2008
Adam wrote:
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I just hope one day you get pulled over and a casual acquaintance in your car is found to have drugs and/or a gun on him. I also hope you get shot at in an apparent robbery attempt, and have the people of Indiana blame both things on you. That would be poetic justice. Part of me also hopes Bob Sanders gets caught doing one of those same things so we can watch the general public backpedal and defend him.
The big difference between me and the thugs you speak of is simple. Please read slowly so you can comprehend;

I do not ride around with felons or those who feel the need to carry a gun with them. That is for idiots.

I don't smart off to others who blow shi- at a gas station so I do not get followed and shot at because I cannot keep my mouth shut.

Bob Sanders is smart enough not to get himself put in those positions to have these things happen to them.

Please, get some accountability in your life. Take responsibility for your own actions while keeping people accountable for their actions. Get it now?
Realist

Uniontown, OH

#43 Jan 30, 2008
Big Jon wrote:
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i agree with everything you said. you and USF seem to have your heads on straight. i would love to see that happen to someone on the colts. everyone in indy would either have the players back or just sweep it under the rug. and to USF you and i both know that once the pacers start doing well everyone in indy will be back on the wagon. i think we might have talked about that this before, that thats what this city does is just from bandwagon to bandwagon. remember the mid 90's when the colts weren't winning and the games were blacked out and colts stood for "Count On Losing This Sunday"? and everyone was pacers crazy. if you win indy will come.
Maybe but the Colts would also need to have 5-8 players get caught doing incredibly stupid things around town and constantly having the Colts name in the national spotlight for being in trouble with the law.

This stupid friggin argument is getting old and carries no weight. Keep harping on how the Pacers are getting screwed from those who don't feel the need to spend money on things that simply aren't worth the price.
The Forgiver

Euclid, OH

#44 Jan 30, 2008
I will pray for the Pacers.

In Jesus name I pray.
Indy Piston Fan

Indianapolis, IN

#45 Jan 30, 2008
That made my day. Go Pistons. Now that we are BEnless this way be the year. However, Boston seems unbeatable
bill night

Walnut Creek, CA

#46 Jan 30, 2008
I don't care how good Wallace is or how difficult it was for Murpohy or Foster to guard him. That is not what the last game aganst Detroit. Mike Dunleavy was brilliant. Murphy and Granger played well. The problem is team rotatiton and chemistry. There is none when the starting five leave. Massive leads are squandered, players are selfish and ineffective. Tlhe do not seem to understant team ball or basic fundamentals. Harrsion is a disaster, Owens, Willaims and Daniels are troubling players. There was no visible bench. Dulnleavy had the hot hand but as in the past he was virtulally ignored in thed second half.
These plalyers do not understand or don't care or both. This as with other games should have been won. The cocaching staff needs to get tough with some of these players

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#47 Jan 30, 2008
The Pacers need to do everything they can to win. Alot of the younger players, including Dunleavy, are starting to show they are ready to accept the load of responsibility of playing well as a team, left behind since Jermaine is on IR.

It's a maturity this team lacks and it's up to every ONE of them to accept the Coach's plan, and make it work. I'm tired of speeches by players, I just want to see the baby - stop telling us about the delivery, just show us the baby!
Pacers are a joke

Cumberland, MD

#48 Jan 30, 2008
dociu80 wrote:
Wow, come on guys! 2 years ago when 1/2 this team was shooting up Indpls ( with guns not free throws!) and fighting in the stands, we as fans cried out for them to MAKE A CHANGE AND TRADE SOME OF THESE YO-YO'S. EVEN IF IT MEANT WE GOT BACK LESS TALENT IN RETURN, AND AS LONG AS THEY PLAYED HARD, WE WOULD SUPPORT THEM.
They did their part by trading Artest, and Jackson.
Well, LAST in the NBA in home attendance, and with all the gripping on the msg boards, we as fans are not supporting them and doing our part.
The Pacers got much less talent in return. Dunleavy only plays hard on one side of the ball and Murphy only plays hard about every fourth game and when he does he still isn't any good. The Pacers' fans will support effort but this team isn't giving any.
End the season now

Cumberland, MD

#49 Jan 30, 2008
Any team that has Mike Dunleavy as the best player is in major trouble. How for did Golden State ever get with him as the leader? He even had pretty good talent around him in Golden State and could not get it done. All you have to do is look at the record of Golden State. With Dunleavy they never made the play offs. Without Dunleavy they made it to the second round of the play offs. If Dunleavy made half of what he makes and was the third scoring option the Pacers would be in great shape. However, Dunleavy has a large long term contract that is over twice what he is worth and he is the go to scoring option. This team is a joke and will not make the play offs.
Jesus F Christ

Jeffersonville, OH

#50 Jan 31, 2008
Pacers are a joke wrote:
<quoted text>The Pacers got much less talent in return. Dunleavy only plays hard on one side of the ball and Murphy only plays hard about every fourth game and when he does he still isn't any good. The Pacers' fans will support effort but this team isn't giving any.
What do you expect? When a player must be traded and the other team knows it, they are not going to give up full value.

You're the reason fans are stupid, because you play the moral card and scream for his head when a guy gets in trouble, and then complain after he is traded.

Look at any player who has been traded because of personal reasons. Never has the team trading the player received full value.
Adam

Bloomington, IN

#51 Jan 31, 2008
Realist wrote:
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The big difference between me and the thugs you speak of is simple. Please read slowly so you can comprehend;
I do not ride around with felons or those who feel the need to carry a gun with them. That is for idiots.
Neither do I (that I know of). Of course you just assume that Shawne knew the other guy was a felon and had a gun. Even though Shawne was driving and the other guy was in the back seat.
Realist wrote:
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I don't smart off to others who blow shi- at a gas station so I do not get followed and shot at because I cannot keep my mouth shut.
You must be clairvoyant. Because I don't remember seeing any footage or coverage that proves Tinsley started anything or "fueled the fire" so to speak.
Realist wrote:
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Bob Sanders is smart enough not to get himself put in those positions to have these things happen to them.
For the most part I agree with you there, but the fact remains that none of us on this board know Bob on a personal level. I'm just saying, as an example, if he DID get caught doing the same things, the people of Indy would back him to their deaths. That's what happens when you're a league MVP on a Superbowl contender.
Realist wrote:
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Please, get some accountability in your life. Take responsibility for your own actions while keeping people accountable for their actions. Get it now?
I take plenty of responsibility for my own actions and hold people accountable when I have the facts. If I punished someone every time based on hearsay and emotionally charged assumptions, I'd almost certainly be reprimanded at my job.
bill night

Walnut Creek, CA

#52 Jan 31, 2008
End the season now wrote:
Any team that has Mike Dunleavy as the best player is in major trouble. How for did Golden State ever get with him as the leader? He even had pretty good talent around him in Golden State and could not get it done. All you have to do is look at the record of Golden State. With Dunleavy they never made the play offs. Without Dunleavy they made it to the second round of the play offs. If Dunleavy made half of what he makes and was the third scoring option the Pacers would be in great shape. However, Dunleavy has a large long term contract that is over twice what he is worth and he is the go to scoring option. This team is a joke and will not make the play offs.
The reason why the Warriors made the play offs (and it was by the skin of their teeth) was because of Baron Davis and JR Richardson(now traded away) When these two players were down the warriros were horrible and Nelson complained and questioned why he had made the trade. The origial trade was for a lot of different reasons- the key here is Mike Dunleavy is playing exceptional ball this year- the question goes to the team itself and its coaching.

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