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Defense bad again as Knicks lose to Nets -

There are 19 comments on the Newsday story from Oct 18, 2007, titled Defense bad again as Knicks lose to Nets -. In it, Newsday reports that:

Isiah Thomas juggled his lineup Thursday night with the intention, he said, to get a look at some players in different roles.

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Lou Carnesecca

New York, NY

#1 Oct 19, 2007
The NY Knicks are the now the laughing stock of the NBA.

Why the heck is Isiah Thomas still running this pathetic team.

Pitiful
Steve

Hillsborough, NJ

#2 Oct 19, 2007
The Knicks have to improve there defense, and there shot selection.
They have a very long way to go if they want to be a playoff team.
Moody

Rensselaer, NY

#3 Oct 19, 2007
I kept my eyes on Nate the whole night.

In the 1st half N8 the Gr8 kept going under screens. This changed in the 2nd half, but it should never be the case. He also is a huge liability because he gets so focused on the ball, that he loses sight of his man, and that forces everybody else to scramble.

I saw one play where his man drifted beyond the arc and he was standing in the paint. His man didn't end up w/ the ball, but he was W-I-D-E open.

If Nate is going to play on this team he needs to defend his man.
Mike

Hilton Head Island, SC

#4 Oct 19, 2007
THE KNICKS JUST HAVE THAT JOKE IMAGE NOW!
acc

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Oct 19, 2007
The Knicks' menagerie is rounding into midseason form. Does Eddy Curry fumble every pass to him in the paint or does it only seem that way?
jys22

United States

#6 Oct 19, 2007
I don't know what to say anymore...they looked just awful. No continuity, consistency. Maybe Isiah is just experimenting right now.
knucks

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Oct 19, 2007
Lou Carnesecca wrote:
The NY Knicks are the now the laughing stock of the NBA.
Why the heck is Isiah Thomas still running this pathetic team.
Pitiful
What do you mean "now"?
trini

Decatur, GA

#8 Oct 19, 2007
Isiah has got to go. What the heck is he really doing. Is he trying to embarrass the Knicks and their fan base? Not even giving Allan Houston an honest shot is an embarrassment.
Lake Zurich Bill

Lincolnshire, IL

#9 Oct 19, 2007
What a relief to NOT have to worry about Curry anymore. In Chicago, we also referred to him as the human turnover or Eddy "never met a shot I didn't like" Curry. How about last nights effort. This piece of garbage played 33 minutes and had 4 rebounds.(all flat footed) He only uses energy on the offensive end, guards no one and does not rebound, especially defensively. When Scott Skiles was asked while coaching Eddy what he would suggest Eddy do to become a better rebounder, he said simply, "jump". We got Tyrus Thomas and another #1 for this guy.....what a joke Isiah Thomas is for giving us future stars for a lazy, fat man who actually gains weight during games. As for Thomas's recent guilty verdict even though he dresses nice and has a flashy smile, just one quote applies...."you can't polish a turd"
s
Bee

Raleigh, NC

#10 Oct 19, 2007
trini wrote:
Isiah has got to go. What the heck is he really doing. Is he trying to embarrass the Knicks and their fan base? Not even giving Allan Houston an honest shot is an embarrassment.
He's still obsessed with trying to talk up Jeffries since he made it a big deal when he signed him and said he's a defensive stopper. Jeffries sucks on defense and offense and should not take 1 minute away from David Lee, Renaldo Balkman or Quentin Richardson - and they all play better defense than Jeffries.
Bee

Raleigh, NC

#11 Oct 19, 2007
Lake Zurich Bill wrote:
What a relief to NOT have to worry about Curry anymore. In Chicago, we also referred to him as the human turnover or Eddy "never met a shot I didn't like" Curry. How about last nights effort. This piece of garbage played 33 minutes and had 4 rebounds.(all flat footed) He only uses energy on the offensive end, guards no one and does not rebound, especially defensively. When Scott Skiles was asked while coaching Eddy what he would suggest Eddy do to become a better rebounder, he said simply, "jump". We got Tyrus Thomas and another #1 for this guy.....what a joke Isiah Thomas is for giving us future stars for a lazy, fat man who actually gains weight during games. As for Thomas's recent guilty verdict even though he dresses nice and has a flashy smile, just one quote applies...."you can't polish a turd"
s
You are a lucky sob to get rid of this piece of sh!t. It's an embarrassment for a guy that big to not know how to rebound.
Lake Zurich Bill

Lincolnshire, IL

#12 Oct 19, 2007
As if this is not enough, look at what the Bulls did for Curry. Recruited him out of high school,(even though he actually had a high school game as a 7 foot senior that dominated shorter opponents with zero rebounds!!!) made him a millioinaire, polished his game, overlooked turnovers, foul trouble on a nightly basis,(we could not play him in the 4th quarter due to lack of defense, rebounding and poor free throw shooting) and then wanted him to ensure his health long term by taking a test that would eliminate potential heart problems. Lastly, we offered him a contract that ensured financial security for his life time if he failed the test and could not play basketball.
What was our repayment? He secretively got with his best friend, another piece of #%$#$ called Jamaal Crawford and Isiah, went behind the Bulls back and punched them in the face with a trade demand because he was insulted that he had to prove his health to play for millions.
This is not a good person and we are glad he is gone.
Walt Bellamy

New York, NY

#13 Oct 19, 2007
Houston never had a chance. It's true it was a longshot anyway, but the reason he doesn't have a chance? Same reason Isiah traded Van Horn even though he and Marbury were looking real good together - it wasn't his guy. Houston and Van Horn are both from the Scott Layden era - that's enough for Isiah to send anybody away - his ego couldn't take winning if it means guys he didn't bring in are even slightly responsible - it's got to be all Isiah - it's truly nauseating - but the Nets looked real good - Kidd gets healthy they will make some noise.
Fed Up

Cedar Knolls, NJ

#14 Oct 19, 2007
"Unfortunately, part of the business that we're in, you really do have to break a lot of hearts and crush a lot of dreams." Isiah Thomas

Thomas was talking about Allan Houston's chances to make the team, but he might as well have been talking about Knicks fans with this ill conceived group that he has assembled. No defense - again. Fortunately for Thomas and unfortunately for Knicks fans, he reports to a person who may be the dumbest owner in sports, Jimmy Lucky Sperm Club.
Caly Knick Fan

Colorado Springs, CO

#15 Oct 19, 2007
Let us just stop bashing the Knicks. I think that they make the playoffs, PERIOD. You guys sit around and talk all this shit and dont know anything. Thomas is not the best coach/president to have but this mess that the Knicks are in as far as contracts was there when he got there. Who sign Allan Houston to this I think it was 60 Mill contract? Not him. Scott Layden is a piece of shit. The fact is that the Knicks are improved. They are not a good defensive team but on offense they are ok. Now, If we could only get Kobe..
KFFL

Old Chatham, NY

#16 Oct 19, 2007
Caly Knick Fan:
Thanks for sticking up for the team...and it was actually a 100 million dollar contract...yikes...Isiah has also done a great job getting talent on this team, but it's gunna take time to gel. I say by December we are at or around .500
bob

Plainview, NY

#17 Oct 19, 2007
THE KNICKS HAVE AGOOD SHOT AT HAVING
THE WORST RECORD IN THE NBA.
IF THERE LUCKY AND SMART MAYBE THEY
WILL DRAFT A DECENT CENTER.
Caly Knick Fan

Colorado Springs, CO

#18 Oct 20, 2007
The Knicks are ok and you're right Bob, they do need an intimidating presence in the hole. I also do think that this team is very talented and that they can go far. Listen, I'm not saying that the Knicks are going to win the title or anything, what I am saying is that they are a much better team than last year and they will make the playoffs. Some of you in here are NY haters to begin with so you come in here and bash this team without looking at the imnprovements, and that is the key word, IMPROVEMENT. Bob is dead wrong when he says that they have a shot at the worst record in the NBA. Perfect example of what I just talked about, hating before facts. Everyone has to agree that the Knicks are a better team last year so how in the hell are they going to have the worst record in the NBA this year if they didn't even had it last year?. KFFL was actually right about .500 in December. And Bob, not to start anything but is supposed to be "IF THEY'RE LUCKY"
Caly Knick Fan

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Oct 20, 2007
Better team this year is what I meant to say

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