Landis alleges 'agenda' in doping investigation

There are 61 comments on the Chicago Sun-Times story from Aug 8, 2006, titled Landis alleges 'agenda' in doping investigation. In it, Chicago Sun-Times reports that:

Embattled Tour de France champion Floyd Landis said Monday the way his doping case has been handled so far makes him doubtful he'll be able to clear his name.

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Cycling Fan-UK

UK

#1 Aug 8, 2006
Re: Floyd Landis comments -'doubtful of clearing his name!

Could that be because he has, according to the UCI, given a positive drugs test in a UCI premier world event. The second 'B Test' also proved positive, although a small factor this could be the reason he is doubtful.
Sean

Kingston, NY

#2 Aug 8, 2006
Floyd Landis even though it looks bad is innocent. His testosterone level is actually low but the ratio is high. Which means that it didnt help him win the Tour but some people disagree. He has taken like 6 blood tests on that same day and one comes back positive?!? I think that might be some Frenchmen tampering with his tests because we dominate a sport that for the last 9 years nobody in this country has cared about. To the French it is everything and I wouldnt rule out a bitter Frenchmen with a vendetta for Landis.
Wayne

Portland, OR

#3 Aug 8, 2006
Sean wrote:
Floyd Landis even though it looks bad is innocent. His testosterone level is actually low but the ratio is high.
Floyd has claimed that his T is low but T/E is high.( In other words, his E is REALLY low..) Could be. So far, however, the information we ordinary fans get is mostly leaks, not from some official report.

If you look at WADA's Technical Document on how testing is to be performed, we find :

WADA Technical Document - TD2004EAAS

Page 1 Paragraph 2:

" The concentration of testosterone and epitestosterone ( equivalent to the glucuronide ) should be estimated.........."

So....What were those estimates? Why is the ICU stonewalling on making the test data public?

Also....Why hasn't a different lab been used to confirm the LNDD testing?

May not matter....this will all be decided by star chamber means that will not allow Floyd due processs.

---Salem Oregon---
Chris

UK

#4 Aug 8, 2006
Sean wrote:
Floyd Landis even though it looks bad is innocent. His testosterone level is actually low but the ratio is high. Which means that it didnt help him win the Tour but some people disagree. He has taken like 6 blood tests on that same day and one comes back positive?!? I think that might be some Frenchmen tampering with his tests because we dominate a sport that for the last 9 years nobody in this country has cared about. To the French it is everything and I wouldnt rule out a bitter Frenchmen with a vendetta for Landis.
6 blood tests! realy? Oh those wicked Frenchies I will never go to their wonderful country, enjoy their wonderful hospitality, eat their wonderful food again.

It's not fair that they caught our wonderful Floyd cheating
Raymond

Le Soler, France

#5 Aug 8, 2006
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>
6 blood tests! realy? Oh those wicked Frenchies I will never go to their wonderful country, enjoy their wonderful hospitality, eat their wonderful food again.
It's not fair that they caught our wonderful Floyd cheating
Floyd should take advice from this American site

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/de...
Biker Bob

Fremont, CA

#6 May 31, 2007
Wayne wrote:
<quoted text>
Floyd has claimed that his T is low but T/E is high.( In other words, his E is REALLY low..) Could be. So far, however, the information we ordinary fans get is mostly leaks, not from some official report.
If you look at WADA's Technical Document on how testing is to be performed, we find :
WADA Technical Document - TD2004EAAS
Page 1 Paragraph 2:
" The concentration of testosterone and epitestosterone ( equivalent to the glucuronide ) should be estimated.........."
So....What were those estimates? Why is the ICU stonewalling on making the test data public?
Also....Why hasn't a different lab been used to confirm the LNDD testing?
May not matter....this will all be decided by star chamber means that will not allow Floyd due processs.
---Salem Oregon---
Wayne,

You called it! back on Aug 8.

Since: Dec 06

Redwood City, CA

#7 May 31, 2007
Raymond wrote:
<quoted text>
Floyd should take advice from this American site
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/de...
Seems you didn't pay attention to the hearing, your chere LNDD screwed up big time.

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#8 Jun 1, 2007
Someday wILL will (verb) realize that Raymond has left this forum (these fora) because what he PRESUMED, and what he now KNOWS, have caused him the shame of a lifetime...

Twas he that said to me, via one of these lost threads, "You'd be surprised to know who my COUSIN IS..."

I remember this sentence now, as "I'd be ASHAMED to tell you who my cousin is"...

And am writing that provocatively, in hopes of finding out just who has made Raymond's 'sense of destiny' change...

ZENpatiently

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#9 Jun 1, 2007
Raymond wrote:
<quoted text>
Floyd should take advice from this American site
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/de...
Seems that the various commentators to that blog disagreed with the writer and with you. And it seems to me that it's been you who has tried making this an American vs French issue more than any of us here.

Cheers
Will

Baltimore, MD

#10 Jun 1, 2007
Landis need only look in the mirror to glimpse where the "agenda" was coming from.

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#11 Jun 1, 2007
Amazing when you're the minority Will and that the majority disagrees with you Will. And you've already shown many here that you're not that intelligent as you try claiming to be.

Cheers

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#12 Jun 2, 2007
Mirror mirror on the wall,
My name is WILL: DAMN! Why did you fall?

:-))

ZEN.

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#13 Jun 2, 2007
Opps, that's seven years of bad luck ZENwill!

Cheers

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#14 Jun 2, 2007
Call me 'Shakespeare', Will...

ZEN.........

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#15 Jun 3, 2007
My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
Opps, that's seven years of bad luck ZENwill!
Cheers
Or maybe that could be "Good Luck" ZENman.

Okay, don't say it, I know that I'm doing a Will here guys.

Cheers Anyway
Slingblade

Raleigh, NC

#16 Jun 4, 2007
Will wrote:
Landis need only look in the mirror to glimpse where the "agenda" was coming from.
I reckon yer a pertty smart feller.
mmmmmhm

You seems to know what everbody done over ther in France even though you was sitting here in the US.
mmmmmhm

You seems to know what is gonna happen in the future.
mmmmmhm

I reckon you got a couple of them ther crystle balls you sit around and rub all day and what all.
mmmmmhm

You like tripe on your crackers?
mmmmmhm
Will

Baltimore, MD

#17 Jun 4, 2007
Reckon? LOL

“Carpe Diem”

Since: Mar 07

Bristol UK

#18 Jun 5, 2007
Slingblade wrote:
<quoted text>
I reckon yer a pertty smart feller.
mmmmmhm
You seems to know what everbody done over ther in France even though you was sitting here in the US.
mmmmmhm
You seems to know what is gonna happen in the future.
mmmmmhm
I reckon you got a couple of them ther crystle balls you sit around and rub all day and what all.
mmmmmhm
You like tripe on your crackers?
mmmmmhm
i reckon you aint got no grama or spelin

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#19 Jun 5, 2007
Weren't my wall, nor my mirror... heh heh

ZEN)))
My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
Opps, that's seven years of bad luck ZENwill!
Cheers

“crystelZENmud”

Since: Jan 07

Reality City

#20 Jun 5, 2007
I thin Jess Adumi is alive and well...

Z'at you, Jesster?

ZENnuance

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