Knicks expect help from returning big men

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jys22

New York, NY

#1 Dec 23, 2008
Alright, being "undersized" and "running out of steam" is one thing but witnessing games like the one against the Bucks is quite troubling. As D'Antoni admitted, it's one to 'flush it in the toilet'. It was as if the team wanted a 'snow day' from that game, very Isiah-esque. And in this rebuilding phase, I guess one can't expect every game to be played as intensely or efficiently like the C's or the Cavs. After all, they are the Knicks. As for Curry, if he can provide a big body out there for a few minutes to provide relief he would be welcomed back. But until he tries to get in shape, he's pretty much useless to me.
pverne

Silver Spring, MD

#2 Dec 23, 2008
One concern I have not seen discussed is that tired bodies can be more prone to injuries. We are in a place where one or two more injuries could leave us totally undermanned. Contributions from these other players, or new ones, can't come soon enough!

I would also add that fatigue could add to the occasional "Night off," like the Bucks game.

Since: Jan 07

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#3 Dec 23, 2008
I'm confused. When they dumped Zach and Crawford, they said it was for 2010 FA's and the writers blinded by Walsh/D'Anton's light all chimed in 'why just be good enough for the 8th seed and a first round exit playing the Celtics?'. Now at 11-16
they say they are fighting for the 8th seed.
They know that is BS, that they already expect to be in the lottery but you can't admit that after 30 games and still expect suckers to pay for those court side seats.

Since: Jan 07

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#4 Dec 23, 2008
IF Isiah had traded a 20/10 guy (Randolph) and top rebounder in the NBA at the time, straight up for Tim Thomas and a guy who can't pass his physical (Mobley) they would be calling him incompetent and worse. Add in #1 pick Galinari..... maybe ALL Knick beat writers work for Cabelvision and not just those at Newsday.
Lets GO Rangers

Rockville Centre, NY

#5 Dec 23, 2008
The Knicks will win 33 games this year, an improvement to be sure, and hopefully will keep working towards something to be excited about.

Since: Jan 07

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#6 Dec 23, 2008
Lets GO Rangers wrote:
The Knicks will win 33 games this year, an improvement to be sure, and hopefully will keep working towards something to be excited about.
Herb Williams won 33 games 3 years ago (30 games by 5 points or less), then he was replaced by Larry Brown who won 23. Now this teams loses the same close games that Herb used to lose and the media spin is there is improvement. So much for the myth of NY sport fans being amomg the smartest
jaysupreme

New York, NY

#7 Dec 23, 2008
Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
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Herb Williams won 33 games 3 years ago (30 games by 5 points or less), then he was replaced by Larry Brown who won 23. Now this teams loses the same close games that Herb used to lose and the media spin is there is
improvement. So much for the myth of NY sport fans being
amomg the smartest
Drew, you are absolutely correct. I said the same thing last week on NYP's blog. Knicks record in 06-07 under Isiah was 33-49. Ironically, the same season after 27 games played the Knicks were 11-16. This season under Danphony after 27 games the Knicks are 11-16 !!!!! So much for the improvement!!!!!! I'll get criticized for posting this but facts are facts and you're right, if Isiah had made that trade they would be crucifying him in the papers right now especially since the Knicks are losing.

It's all good though. Keep spinning the story. Some of us can see through the B.S.
knix

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Dec 23, 2008
jaysupreme wrote:
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Drew, you are absolutely correct. I said the same thing last week on NYP's blog. Knicks record in 06-07 under Isiah was 33-49. Ironically, the same season after 27 games played the Knicks were 11-16. This season under Danphony after 27 games the Knicks are 11-16 !!!!! So much for the improvement!!!!!! I'll get criticized for posting this but facts are facts and you're right, if Isiah had made that trade they would be crucifying him in the papers right now especially since the Knicks are losing.
It's all good though. Keep spinning the story. Some of us can see through the B.S.
If Isiah had made the Randolph/Crawford trade, it would have been the first time he dumped salary instead of taking on more. The media certainly would note this. Maybe they wouldn't approve, but it would have signaled a complete 180 in Isiah's game plan.

And say what you will about the record, but this team is giving a more consistent effort - on both ends of the court - than they did in the past three years. They are just severely outmanned right now.
Lets GO Rangers

Rockville Centre, NY

#9 Dec 23, 2008
Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
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Herb Williams won 33 games 3 years ago (30 games by 5 points or less), then he was replaced by Larry Brown who won 23. Now this teams loses the same close games that Herb used to lose and the media spin is there is improvement. So much for the myth of NY sport fans being amomg the smartest
How can you compare this team to the one under Brown? This team plays with enthusiasm and energy (on most nights, take away Milwaukee). They have had a 7 man roation which would take it's toll on any team. The atmosphere is totally different, and unlike 2-3 years ago there is excitement that this could be the beginning of a turnaround that will take a couple of seasons to accomplish.

You are the idiot and obviously don't watch the games.
Tiffany

United States

#10 Dec 23, 2008
i tihnk the knicks are going to make it to the playoffs this year,i can feel it

“Let's go Yankees”

Since: Jul 08

Long Island

#11 Dec 23, 2008
knix wrote:
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If Isiah had made the Randolph/Crawford trade, it would have been the first time he dumped salary instead of taking on more. The media certainly would note this. Maybe they wouldn't approve, but it would have signaled a complete 180 in Isiah's game plan.
And say what you will about the record, but this team is giving a more consistent effort - on both ends of the court - than they did in the past three years. They are just severely outmanned right now.
I agree completely. some people just can't see the big picture
Tiffany

United States

#12 Dec 23, 2008
i smell playoffs
Mel

Chicago, IL

#13 Dec 23, 2008
Look at their salary structure. Most of the Knicks salaries end after the 2009-2010 season. They're determined to start fresh. Their coach, Mike D, will keep the Knicks running and entertaining until then when they can get some superstars Boston Celtic style.
Tiffany

United States

#14 Dec 23, 2008
is jared jefferies back yet?
Hehateme

Totowa, NJ

#15 Dec 23, 2008
We need curry guysz, let the guy get his trade value up. And maybe he can get back to his status from 06'.

Since: Jan 07

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#16 Dec 23, 2008
knix wrote:
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If Isiah had made the Randolph/Crawford trade, it would have been the first time he dumped salary instead of taking on more. The media certainly would note this. Maybe they wouldn't approve, but it would have signaled a complete 180 in Isiah's game plan.
And say what you will about the record, but this team is giving a more consistent effort - on both ends of the court - than they did in the past three years. They are just severely outmanned right now.
keep the spin alive, they need you to.

Isiah and Larry Brown, Herb William, Don Channey, Lenny Wilkins were ALL evaluated on wins and losess NOT about the effort on the court. In fact LB's team was the only one of the group where the effort wasn't there for 48 minutes

Since: Jan 07

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#17 Dec 23, 2008
Mel wrote:
Look at their salary structure. Most of the Knicks salaries end after the 2009-2010 season. They're determined to start fresh. Their coach, Mike D, will keep the Knicks running and entertaining until then when they can get some superstars Boston Celtic style.
there is no ex-KNick teammate waiting to trade a Kevin Garnett like Mchale did for Ainge in Boston

Since: Jan 07

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#18 Dec 23, 2008
Lets GO Rangers wrote:
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How can you compare this team to the one under Brown? This team plays with enthusiasm and energy (on most nights, take away Milwaukee). They have had a 7 man roation which would take it's toll on any team. The atmosphere is totally different, and unlike 2-3 years ago there is excitement that this could be the beginning of a turnaround that will take a couple of seasons to accomplish.
You are the idiot and obviously don't watch the games.
I actually PAY to see games. Buy back my $100 tickets for 2008 and prepaid for 2009 and THEN you have an opinion worth paying attention to,anything.
Lets GO Rangers

Rockville Centre, NY

#19 Dec 23, 2008
Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
<quoted text>I actually PAY to see games. Buy back my $100 tickets for 2008 and prepaid for 2009 and THEN you have an opinion worth paying attention to,anything.
Oh, so only season ticket holders can have an opinion? What kind if elitist snob are you? I hope you don't have children, I hate seeing kids brought up by parents with an "I am better than you" attitude. I hope you have a miserable holiday. I feel sorry for your entire family having to deal with a piece of $&#&# like yourself

Since: Jan 07

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#20 Dec 23, 2008
Lets GO Rangers wrote:
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Oh, so only season ticket holders can have an opinion? What kind if elitist snob are you? I hope you don't have children, I hate seeing kids brought up by parents with an "I am better than you" attitude. I hope you have a miserable holiday. I feel sorry for your entire family having to deal with a piece of $&#&# like yourself
first of all calm down, its just sports!! 2nd, my point was it's easy to say, disband the team and just wait 2 years when it doesn't cost you anything except a posted opinion. Happy holidays and we will pray for you and yours

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