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Too many questions face reconstructed group right now

There are 38 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Nov 1, 2006, titled Too many questions face reconstructed group right now. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The Indiana Pacers open the regular season tonight, traveling to Charlotte to play the Bobcats, and the questions are begged: Who are they? What are they? Animal? Vegetable? Mineral? In the past, they were ...

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kim rademaker

United States

#1 Nov 1, 2006
I've been following the Pacers for more years than I care to admitt. But one thing is for sure this season, before I even see the first regular season game. I'm very disapointed with the front office, and I've never said that in 15 years. I don't understand there thinking, nor does anyone else that I know. I do not believe the Pacers will even come close to making the playoffs this year. And I also think the ticket sales will show that by the halfway point this season. I'll still be a Pacer fan this year, but its not going to be as much fun as it has been in the past. And I think its time for the front office to quit babysitting these million dollar babies. And find some street ball players that want to play the game that they love and we as fans love. I'll never understand what Stephen Jackson is doing even wearing a Pacer jersey? I'm ashamed and embarrased.

Fort Wayne, IN

#2 Nov 1, 2006
Mr. Kravitz, you have the propensity to say things that most in the media do not want to say. The direction of the Pacers since Reggie retired is rudderless. Donnie probably should cut ties with Larry Legend before the Simons' say enough. The only move Larry has done well was fire Mr. Thomas.

I hope you and I are wrong but I doubt it.

Jeffersonville, IN

#3 Nov 1, 2006
I couldn't have said it better myself. The entire James White episode speaks volumes about the decision makers for this team right now. Dead on the money article. Very nice, Bob.
OnceproudtobeaPa cerfan


#4 Nov 1, 2006
As I have said before, Let's put some big red noses and clown shoes on these guys and only then will we have the greatest show on earth!!!
Donnie Bird

Bowling Green, KY

#5 Nov 1, 2006
We really screwed up that White pick. At least the guy we picked at 45 that ended up in Memphis (Alexander Johnson) didn't average a double-double in pre-season. He only averaged 11 pts. and 7 rebs. He's 6'10 and 250. I guess we have all the "bigs" we need.
Carmel Dave

Jeffersonville, OH

#6 Nov 1, 2006
It's frustrating to sit by and watch this Pacers team lose it's identity and reputation as a good team to play for. Some of the choices management has made the last couple of years have turned out to be very bad choices. Now they cut White from the team and keep the 2 Dallas players. Carlisle says that these 2 players can make more of an impact now, so they decided to cut White. If they really want players that can play right now and make an impact then why did they select Shawne Williams???

United States

#7 Nov 1, 2006
The Simons need to realize that most all of the problems have been due to Larry Bird. He was a hell of a player and a pretty good coach. Larry is horrible when it comes to player evaluation. Not all former players have the ability to judge talent. Unfortunately, for every John Paxton who is doing things right in Chicago there are many Iseah's and Larrys destroying franchises.

Carmel, IN

#8 Nov 1, 2006
How long will it take for NBA owners to realize that just because you were a great player, and even a decent coach, doesn't mean that it will transfer over to the front office. These guys (Bird, Jordan, Thomas) seem to be arrogant to an extreme fault in their respective positions. They go in with horse-blinders on and won't listen to a word in edgewise from anyone else around them. It's there way or no way, just like when they played. I mean I want to know where Bird got the elixir to brainwash Donnie Walsh into these extremely poor desicions over the last few years. I could use it to get a raise at work or some slack from my girlfriend. I wish the Simon's would step in here because I have serious doubts about the future of this organization with Larry Bird at the helm.
Louisville Bob

Bardstown, KY

#9 Nov 1, 2006
Great article, Bob. It's pretty clear this team is a mess, and is virtually unwatchable. I travel from Louisville to see many events in Indy, including the Colts. From what I have seen on TV, this team was unwatchable last year, and looks to be much the same this year. They looked lost and disenchanted, and spent more time complaining about the refs than playing ball.
On a side note, there has been a strong effort over the years here in Louisville to land an NBA team. In light of the current "Gangsta" mentality that the NBA tolerates, and the current Pacers personify, all talk of pursuing an NBA team has ceased. Not only have the Pacers hurt their own team due to its decline, it has hurt the entire league.

I just feel that a class act like Reggie saw this coming and got out in time.
Keith Tully

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Nov 1, 2006
I've got a new slogan for this year's Pacer's: Blame it on Rio

Cincinnati, OH

#11 Nov 1, 2006
Couldn't agree more.

The Pacers' 2006 Draft is utterly mystifying. Given the Pacers' desire to transition to a full court offense and their problems at the point guard position, I thought, and still think, that Dee Brown, PG from Illinois, would have been the PERFECT fit for the Pacers. His nickname was the "One Man Fast Break", plus he can shoot, play D, and is ultra-quick and ultra-fast. He's short, but no shorter than Jamaal Tinsley. And he's an experienced winner and a stand up citizen. Instead, they take two players who fit the combo 2/3 and 3/4 positions for which they already have a ton of depth; one of whom isn't ready to physically contribute (Shawne Williams was the only player drafted in the first round who couldn't bench press 185 lbs at the NBA's "combine") and another who they traded up to get, but have already cut. Neither of these draft picks are good enough at this point to rank ahead of a couple of STIFFS the Pacers got as throwins from a trade with the Mavericks.

This draft illustrates everything that's been wrong with the NBA over the last 10 years. The Pacers fell into the trap of drafting based on "potential" and fell in love with "long" and "lean" and "athleticism". What they should have been looking for is proven performance and players that fit the style of play that they wanted. I'm not a University of Illinois homer, but being a Big Ten guy (Purdue), I've seen Dee Brown play enough to know that he's a heck of a player and would have been such a great fit here.
J Scott

United States

#12 Nov 1, 2006
Hilarious slogan, Keither, if desperate in its hilarity.

Solid column, Mr. Kravitz. Memo to Pacers front office: What is UP?
tony e

Dayton, OH

#13 Nov 1, 2006
I don't understand releasing james white at all. With all they have invested in him and his future potential, it just doesn't make sense. Couldn't they have sent him to the d-league for development since he was under contract or if not, released green, since we have so many who can play the point? What am I missing here?

Corydon, KY

#14 Nov 1, 2006
I was one to think in the past that trading Jermaine O'Neal wasn't the answer. Two years later I believe we should trade him while we can. He is the only way we can maybe drop a jackson or tinsley. I do remember are offense running a lot better with him not their. We need a shooter really bad. Seattle Ray Allen and somebody for J.O. I feel this is a safe move because we have Al now. We can count on Al for 82 games. J.O. is good but he is not great. I don't believe in maxing out a player who is a 20-10 guy. I rather have a 17-7 guy (Al Harrington) for 35 million. I feel its our only way to get a great 2 guard. Or we could always go for it and trade it to a team for 2 future #1's in the next 3 years, are choice and have a shot of bringing back Mr. Oden to Indianapolis.

Corydon, KY

#15 Nov 1, 2006
Now to the draft. I don't know what is going on here. I can see why they got rid of James White. He just got outplayed. Everybody is in this uproar because we gave him guaranteed money. Who cares. He didn't make that much. He played awful. He's not a better on ball defender then Orien Greene. He can't shoot nor can Orien. He didn't have a good preseason. He could win a dunk contest. Anyways I think we all know we should have taken Marcus Williams. He would have fit in good here coming from a solid system at Connecticut. Especially with the knowledge now that we kept Powell and Marshall who play the exact same position as Shaun Williams. Big mistake. Another big mistake was letting Alexander Johnson get away. This guy is a beast. He had a 45 inch vertical. At his size that is almost unheard of. How many 6"10 260 plus pound, 45 inch vertical, massive strength guys are out their. Not to mention he is having a solid preseason although it is preseason. We should of kept him. You know tinsley will break a nail a miss 30 games and J.O. would have something pull. Wouldn't of these guys been safe back-up plans at our needed positions. Instead I will get to watch Williams play 2 mop-up minutes a game for at least 1 and maybe 2 seasons

Cleveland, OH

#16 Nov 1, 2006
I really have to disagree with most of the folks on here; I think a lot of the moves made by the front office over the past several years have been fairly shrewd.

I think the Pacers navigated the Artest situation about as well as it could; he's just too talented to cut loose right away, and the net result--Artest for Harrington--really wasn't all that bad of a deal, frankly (which, by the way, was a total coup for the Pacers). Harrington's probably not as good a player as Artest right now, but he's probably got a little more upside.

As far as the draft goes, I thought last year was great--Danny Granger is turning into an excellent player and quite a steal. I think the verdict is still out on this year's draft, but I think the management is catching more heat than it deserves essentially over Stephen Jackson, who, admittedly, has been a headache.

We'll see how the season goes, but I suspect that if O'Neal manages to stay healthy, the Pacers will have a fine--though not championship caliber--season. If O'Neal gets hurt, it will be a long year.
John S

Richmond, IN

#17 Nov 1, 2006
As I said once before, Bird screwed this team up. He doesn't have any place in this organization.
Albert Haynesworth

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Nov 1, 2006
Hi Indiana Pacers, my name is Al. I'm a big guy and I've got some down time at my current job. Your company has been in the news a lot lately, and from what it sounds like I think we'd be a good fit. If you're interested, please give me a call. Thanks!
Albert Haynesworth.
Disgruntled Pacer Fan

Greenwood, IN

#20 Nov 1, 2006
Thank you for today's article in the paper. It was great to read and absolutely true. I hope that each member of the team and administration reads it and finds out exactly what Indiana thinks of them and how sad we are to see Reggie's former team in shambles. May this article be the reality check that those pompous, over-paid "basketball players" so desperately need. Sadly, I don't think it will matter.
edo bg

Frankfort, KY

#21 Nov 1, 2006
LYNN FRYE wrote:
Mr. Kravitz, you have the propensity to say things that most in the media do not want to say. The direction of the Pacers since Reggie retired is rudderless. Donnie probably should cut ties with Larry Legend before the Simons' say enough. The only move Larry has done well was fire Mr. Thomas.
I hope you and I are wrong but I doubt it.
I've never been a pacers fan, but i'll alway be regie miller fan. I don't know why they let stojakovic go for nothing in return. I see him having an mvp type of season this year in NO

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