Chris Webber: Playing Nelson that muc...

Chris Webber: Playing Nelson that much was a mistake

There are 25 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Jun 4, 2009, titled Chris Webber: Playing Nelson that much was a mistake. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Experience counts and bringing back an injured guy who hasn't been part of a playoff run for the finals doesn't work according to Chris Webber .

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marko

Orlando, FL

#1 Jun 5, 2009
i agree...nelson played to many minutes..team seemed to loose chemistry with out alston,and never recovered..not that nelson played bad...
marko

Orlando, FL

#2 Jun 5, 2009
i still see magic having no calls by refs...howard getting mugged all night still...this is ashame..no excuses,we played poorly and to caught up in the lime light...but refs let howard take a beating!
JKH

Greenwich, CT

#3 Jun 5, 2009
They have counted us out in the previous series. Do not under estimate the resiliency of this team. The good news is they cannot play any worse than game one.
fls

United States

#4 Jun 5, 2009
The time in LA was consumed by the speculation on Jameer's return. This distraction carried over into the game when Nelson started the 2ndQ. After a great 3 minutes it was all downhill. MVG has done a great job all year but his decision to even consider inserting Nelson into a momentum riding team was a bad one. Perhaps he was pushed into it by Otis.
Jimbo

Orlando, FL

#5 Jun 5, 2009
I think this is the stupidest second guess i've seen all playoffs. how many finals you play in webber? what? that's what i thought. then why don't you take your stupis BS someplace else.
DMG

United States

#6 Jun 5, 2009
Thank you Jimbo! Coming from a player who has never reached that stage, he would perceive these players to react to the adversity in a manner that he would have. Do not let a magic loss take anything away from what Jameer did last night. He showed a great deal of composure and mental toughness coming back on the national stage and playing like that. The only thing holding him back was a little bit of rush. We are really making too much of this loss, if you look at 90% of those misses they all hit the back of the rim. This is usually a sign of adrenaline which we would expect in the Magic's first game back to the Finals. Lets not forget how we got here, we are a very resilient team!
STEEL

Sebring, FL

#7 Jun 5, 2009
I totally agree with my Detroit homeboy CWebb. Putting Nelson back in the game at this crucial period was a VERY bad decision by VanGundy! The NBA finals is not the time to experiment! You have to go with the lineup that got you to the finals in the first place. As we all witnessed last night, the teams chemistry was totally disrupted. I like Nelson, but you have to go with what works best for the team! Basketball 101!

“Life's a Beach”

Since: Dec 07

Cocoa Beach

#8 Jun 5, 2009
STEEL wrote:
I totally agree with my Detroit homeboy CWebb. Putting Nelson back in the game at this crucial period was a VERY bad decision by VanGundy! The NBA finals is not the time to experiment! You have to go with the lineup that got you to the finals in the first place. As we all witnessed last night, the teams chemistry was totally disrupted. I like Nelson, but you have to go with what works best for the team! Basketball 101!
I agree too! I think it was okay to bring JN back, but after her had that great start, 6-8 minutes, but they played him way too long. And by the way, his shots were strong, they were all short. A sign of fatigue and out of basketball shape. IMO is was a bad call to bring Jameer back. I certainly hope that I'm wrong about this.

Go Magic!
Master of Magic

Greensboro, NC

#9 Jun 5, 2009
Chris Webber, you are a buffoon, you should call a time-out on your journalism, and go back to Michigan and learn how to story structure. You have no idea what the magic are thinking, and you certainly have no idea what jameer is feeling, and thinking. Go look at your NBA or NCAA championships, oh wait, you choked all the time. Time out Chirs, Time OUT!
Stan Van Gundy

Walden, NY

#11 Jun 5, 2009
What is it with you guys. A Coach makes a decision you either love it or hate it based on a W or a L. Jameer is our allstar point guard. He's a SUPERSTAR. He hits big SHOTS and is quicker than anyone on the Lakers. He was key to us beating the lakers in the season. So if you have the mentality that we can beat the Lakers based on the fact that we beat them this season, you should be excited that we have another weapon because I know we are. This isn't the CAVS these are the Lakers.
Detroit Fan

Orlando, FL

#12 Jun 5, 2009
It is naive to think Jameer could keep up playing all those minutes. Even if physically up to the task which I beleive I didn't see the whole time he was out there, it was clear that he was just rusty transitioning plays and moving around. Critical error on Van Gumpy's part. I have become a huge Alston fan and still love Jameer- but it was an unwise decision IMO. Come on Magic, bounce back like a set of fake taters.
Jimmy

Orlando, FL

#13 Jun 5, 2009
How about this gem from the most Un-Clutch player of the last 20 years:

"I think the coach is going to be second-guessed. I wonder about that decision."

He second guesses the coach in the sentence after he says "I think..." HA! The consensus "least knowledgeable basketball fan who thinks he knows a lot" of our group made the same argument last night. It's absurd. Somebody had to write it though. Why not this jack-a$$.
Joe

Santa Rosa, CA

#14 Jun 5, 2009
Thank you Chris Webber. Your insights are right on. Nelson's me first approach to playing the point completely stopped ball and player movement that has characterized the Magic terrific post-season run. The point guards have been great getting the ball to the big three when they are open. The movement involves the whole team. Nelson tends to shoot first, passing only when he has to, without regard to whether the recipient is open or not. He took Turk, Lewis and Howard out of the game. He took his shots and in doing so probably cost the team 3 points for every one he scored. But HE GOT HIS POINTS! BTW the Lakers used him on defense. The chemistry is dead. It's up to the Magic to see if they can get it back. It doesn’t matter because it's all about JN. Sit Nelson and let the point guards do their thing. You need to know that Nelson is Otis's boy so he will continue to play.
Jeff

Winter Garden, FL

#15 Jun 5, 2009
SVG played Jameer a little too much. The guy hasnt played competitive basketball in 4 months. The first few minutes were great. After that you could visibly tell he was struggling. Play him 5 minutes then take him out. Then play him again 5 more minutes later in the game. He shouldnt play more than 10 to 12 minutes in these games. Hes a capable player but at this point in time he needs to be a backup. Next year he will be the Jameer we remember from earlier in this season

Hell bring Jameer in for 4 to 5 minutes then bring in AJ for 5 minutes before rotating back to Alston. That way you can keep fresh bodies out there.

LOL @ anyone blaming Otis for bringing him back Otis didnt want him to come back this year. Otis is overprotective of his players and doesnt want anyone returning to action too early.
elb

Melbourne, FL

#16 Jun 5, 2009
Joe wrote:
Thank you Chris Webber. Your insights are right on. Nelson's me first approach to playing the point completely stopped ball and player movement that has characterized the Magic terrific post-season run. The point guards have been great getting the ball to the big three when they are open. The movement involves the whole team. Nelson tends to shoot first, passing only when he has to, without regard to whether the recipient is open or not. He took Turk, Lewis and Howard out of the game. He took his shots and in doing so probably cost the team 3 points for every one he scored. But HE GOT HIS POINTS! BTW the Lakers used him on defense. The chemistry is dead. It's up to the Magic to see if they can get it back. It doesn’t matter because it's all about JN. Sit Nelson and let the point guards do their thing. You need to know that Nelson is Otis's boy so he will continue to play.
Eh...I don't know about all that. PGs are playmakers...and if the play is for them to take the shot, go for it.

I have too much confidence in the coaching staff to think this was a mistake.

I do have a few regrets though: 1) the "playing/not playing" routine over the past few days. To me, this was pure drama and headgames to mix up the Lakers, and unfortunately if I'm correct in that suspicion, it completely backfired. 2) From the outside, he did get too much playing time for somebody who is healing from an injury. 3) Again from the outside, I worry about Alston's self-worth. The guy really was a great contributor to this team, and I feel sorry that it seems like he's underappreciated right now.

But again, I'm no coach, so I have to put my confidence in those who are. I just hope everything works out for the best, and I hope Orlando comes back STRONG!
Otown

Lady Lake, FL

#17 Jun 5, 2009
Jameer has no D. He's too short to cover Fisher. Any guard can shoot over him. It's was a bad call. Too many minutes. I think the Magic will still win the series.
XeroX

Lincoln, NE

#18 Jun 5, 2009
Jameer was raining airballs because he wanted to hear the LA crowd chanting AAAAAIIIIIRRRRBBBBBAAAAALLLLL !!! he thought they were cool..... Battie's bricks should have their own chant....all they do in their lives is play a simple game of basketball and these guys cannot put the stupid ball thru the hoop....
XeroX

Lincoln, NE

#19 Jun 5, 2009
With 4.6 seconds left in the 2nd quarter Jameer dribble his way to halfcourt and decided to lay on his back like a turtle with the ball glued to his chest....that was a sign of things to come!
Chris

Fate, TX

#20 Jun 5, 2009
For everyone saying that Jameer won the 2 regular season games for us please look at how many points were scored on Jameer and not just how many points he scored.

And C-Webb is spot on. Jameer should have been pulled after his first 6 minutes or so.
edgar lugo

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#21 Jun 5, 2009
we are just in the correctly place right now every body knows what happen in game 1 its not magic basketball so we still learnin next game we have to go like a game 7 with everything dwight already have his bad game of the series so rashard and hedo too its no way common magic right now we cant giveup thats what happen in 95 nobody believes after first 2 loss this its just one game ....................play jameer bt our point guard its alston give more minutes to him

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