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Length of Los Angeles Lakers' big men a large problem for Orlan...

There are 35 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Jun 5, 2009, titled Length of Los Angeles Lakers' big men a large problem for Orlan.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard said his first game in the NBA Finals felt "kind of normal." "The only thing that was different is you're seeing the big trophy everywhere you look." Actually, the decorations adorned with images of the NBA title trophy weren't the only things with impressive size.

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DaTruthSetUFree

Canyon Country, CA

#23 Jun 6, 2009
"Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%?"

Orlando will shoot much better in this series. The question is how often will they hit their 3's and get points in transition?

I think the answer lies in Orlando's point guard play and rebounding. If the Magic doesn't get good penetration (remember Nelson got 3 assists in about 5 minutes, then stayed outside in the second half; Alston got a layup blocked, then stayed outside), that set's up the ball movement that gives Orlando good looks at 3's. As talented as Turk and Lewis are, when they get run off the three point line, they are not as effective, because the 3 is the big momentum changer the Magic have used all season. Without 10-15 3's per game, the Magic aren't going to come back from big deficits.

If the Magic don't rebound well, there is no transition game. Both the Lakers and Magic are finesse teams, so I have doubts that Orlando's forwards will be able to turn into the kind of physical players (like the Thuggets, Rockets and Celtics) who will dominate the Lakers on the boards.

These two area will really foretell the direction this series will take. I have a lot of respect for what the Magic did to Boston and Cleveland, but matchups are everything.

I think SVG did not respond well to Phil Jackson's adjustments in the second quarter.

Down 33-28, the Lakers brought in Bynum and Bryant to go with Walton, Odom and Farmar. They went on a 6-0 run, with Walton posting up the smaller Courtney Lee and scoring two easy baskets and Kobe hitting a jumper.

SVG calls time out with the Magic down by one, so you expect an adjustment, right? He brings in Howard and Turkoglu to play with Lewis, Pietrus and Nelson. The Lakers bring back Fisher, replacing Farmar.

But the Lakers go up by 5, and SVG calls a 20-second timeout one minute, 15 seconds later. There was no other substitution. It almost seemed to me like SVG was saying "okay, get the ball inside to Howard, that's all I got."

While they did get the ball inside to Howard, Kobe shredded the Magic defense with 2 baskets and 2 assists and the Lakers got up by 8

With 1:00 left, SVG takes out Howard and the Lakers get three offensive rebounds in the same possession, finishing up with Fisher scoring a layup off the inbounds play and the Lakers go up by 10.

It seemed like the Magic didn't make any adjustments. They let Kobe play. He got hot and the lead stretched to 18. Game over, since the Magic were so cold from the 3 point line.

So what adjustments can SVG make in game 2? Any ideas?
orlandodolphin

Orlando, FL

#24 Jun 6, 2009
DaTruthSetUFree wrote:
"Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%?"
Orlando will shoot much better in this series. The question is how often will they hit their 3's and get points in transition?
I think the answer lies in Orlando's point guard play and rebounding. If the Magic doesn't get good penetration (remember Nelson got 3 assists in about 5 minutes, then stayed outside in the second half; Alston got a layup blocked, then stayed outside), that set's up the ball movement that gives Orlando good looks at 3's. As talented as Turk and Lewis are, when they get run off the three point line, they are not as effective, because the 3 is the big momentum changer the Magic have used all season. Without 10-15 3's per game, the Magic aren't going to come back from big deficits.
If the Magic don't rebound well, there is no transition game. Both the Lakers and Magic are finesse teams, so I have doubts that Orlando's forwards will be able to turn into the kind of physical players (like the Thuggets, Rockets and Celtics) who will dominate the Lakers on the boards.
These two area will really foretell the direction this series will take. I have a lot of respect for what the Magic did to Boston and Cleveland, but matchups are everything.
I think SVG did not respond well to Phil Jackson's adjustments in the second quarter.
Down 33-28, the Lakers brought in Bynum and Bryant to go with Walton, Odom and Farmar. They went on a 6-0 run, with Walton posting up the smaller Courtney Lee and scoring two easy baskets and Kobe hitting a jumper.
SVG calls time out with the Magic down by one, so you expect an adjustment, right? He brings in Howard and Turkoglu to play with Lewis, Pietrus and Nelson. The Lakers bring back Fisher, replacing Farmar.
But the Lakers go up by 5, and SVG calls a 20-second timeout one minute, 15 seconds later. There was no other substitution. It almost seemed to me like SVG was saying "okay, get the ball inside to Howard, that's all I got."
While they did get the ball inside to Howard, Kobe shredded the Magic defense with 2 baskets and 2 assists and the Lakers got up by 8
With 1:00 left, SVG takes out Howard and the Lakers get three offensive rebounds in the same possession, finishing up with Fisher scoring a layup off the inbounds play and the Lakers go up by 10.
It seemed like the Magic didn't make any adjustments. They let Kobe play. He got hot and the lead stretched to 18. Game over, since the Magic were so cold from the 3 point line.
So what adjustments can SVG make in game 2? Any ideas?
Gotta get D12 going. Have to hit open shots...WIDE OPEN. While you just wrote a book, I think my answer is short simple and true.
notaclue

Lake Mary, FL

#25 Jun 6, 2009
Well Mike old Boy, we'll just have to wait and see. Koobie Mambo will get his share...So will our guy D12 count on it baby! Go Magic!
magicact07

United States

#26 Jun 6, 2009
DaTruthSetUFree wrote:
"Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%?"
Orlando will shoot much better in this series. The question is how often will they hit their 3's and get points in transition?
I think the answer lies in Orlando's point guard play and rebounding. If the Magic doesn't get good penetration (remember Nelson got 3 assists in about 5 minutes, then stayed outside in the second half; Alston got a layup blocked, then stayed outside), that set's up the ball movement that gives Orlando good looks at 3's. As talented as Turk and Lewis are, when they get run off the three point line, they are not as effective, because the 3 is the big momentum changer the Magic have used all season. Without 10-15 3's per game, the Magic aren't going to come back from big deficits.
If the Magic don't rebound well, there is no transition game. Both the Lakers and Magic are finesse teams, so I have doubts that Orlando's forwards will be able to turn into the kind of physical players (like the Thuggets, Rockets and Celtics) who will dominate the Lakers on the boards.
These two area will really foretell the direction this series will take. I have a lot of respect for what the Magic did to Boston and Cleveland, but matchups are everything.
I think SVG did not respond well to Phil Jackson's adjustments in the second quarter.
Down 33-28, the Lakers brought in Bynum and Bryant to go with Walton, Odom and Farmar. They went on a 6-0 run, with Walton posting up the smaller Courtney Lee and scoring two easy baskets and Kobe hitting a jumper.
SVG calls time out with the Magic down by one, so you expect an adjustment, right? He brings in Howard and Turkoglu to play with Lewis, Pietrus and Nelson. The Lakers bring back Fisher, replacing Farmar.
But the Lakers go up by 5, and SVG calls a 20-second timeout one minute, 15 seconds later. There was no other substitution. It almost seemed to me like SVG was saying "okay, get the ball inside to Howard, that's all I got."
While they did get the ball inside to Howard, Kobe shredded the Magic defense with 2 baskets and 2 assists and the Lakers got up by 8
With 1:00 left, SVG takes out Howard and the Lakers get three offensive rebounds in the same possession, finishing up with Fisher scoring a layup off the inbounds play and the Lakers go up by 10.
It seemed like the Magic didn't make any adjustments. They let Kobe play. He got hot and the lead stretched to 18. Game over, since the Magic were so cold from the 3 point line.
So what adjustments can SVG make in game 2? Any ideas?
To be honest with you, don't think there is too much the Magic need to do differently.. other than make their open shots. Worst shooting performance of the post-season caused this game to get out of hand quick. Granted, you have to attribute some of that bad shooting to good Laker defense. As resilent a team as this group of guys has proven to be this post-season and with the prolific, high octane offensive output they are capable of, I fully expect the Magic to rebound from their game one loss.
Lakeshow

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#27 Jun 6, 2009
Orlando win Game 2? Bank on it? Hardly. LOL
magicact07 wrote:
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Anyone out there in LaLa land who truly believes this series is going to end in a sweep does nothing for themselves but prove that your world famous smog frys brain cells. Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%? That Dwight Howard is going to finish another game with just one field goal? That the Lakers' Luke Walton and D Fisher are going to combine for over 71% from the floor in every game? Orlando, all post season long, has proven they can rebound after a tough loss. Whether it has been a last second heartbreaker or an ugly blowout, this team always comes out the next game focused and ready to play. Magic win game two. Bank on it.
magicact07

United States

#28 Jun 6, 2009
Lakeshow wrote:
Orlando win Game 2? Bank on it? Hardly. LOL
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With the Lakers inability,this post-season, to play consistently good basketball coupled with the Magic's very consistent ability to throttle teams with tremendous shooting, I'd be careful as to how confident you have become with your fluke 25 point win. A very, very rude awakening is just over the horizon in Lakerland. Look forward to seeing you on this forum tomorrow. I'll be the one throwing the great Will Smith line at you. "Somehow, I told ya so just don't quite say it!" Until then, Cheers!
Dell-Youngest Lakers Fan

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#29 Jun 6, 2009
Mike wrote:
"Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%? That Dwight Howard is going to finish another game with just one field goal? That the Lakers' Luke Walton and D Fisher are going to combine for over 71% from the floor in every game?"
No you have it all wrong....According to Mamba people in Orlando just don't understand basketball. He actually thinks Howard is a nothing player. No game...only a rebounder with limited skills.
Who cares? No sorry franchise like the Magic will win a title to make the NBA look bad.
Mamba24

United States

#30 Jun 6, 2009
magicact07 wrote:
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With the Lakers inability,this post-season, to play consistently good basketball coupled with the Magic's very consistent ability to throttle teams with tremendous shooting, I'd be careful as to how confident you have become with your fluke 25 point win. A very, very rude awakening is just over the horizon in Lakerland. Look forward to seeing you on this forum tomorrow. I'll be the one throwing the great Will Smith line at you. "Somehow, I told ya so just don't quite say it!" Until then, Cheers!
Last time I checked the Lakers have played 3 solid defensive games starting with game 5 against Denver. Each game the team's all around play has gotten better each of the last 3 games. So much for being inconsistent.
DaDevil

Las Vegas, NV

#31 Jun 6, 2009
BAd CHoice by Van GuMpY 2 MesS Wit SkiPs MinutEs.

MAgIc MeNTaLLy Up And DoWn NOw.

BaD NeWz
LakEShow in 6
DaDevil

Las Vegas, NV

#32 Jun 6, 2009
SURPRISE,STAN VAN PANICS


Contrary to popular beleif players do like to have a rythym going. The Magic were a locked and loaded team all playoffs. Even in the games lost they played hard. Totally outclassed in game 1. Need to refocus, can they?
orlandodolphin

Orlando, FL

#33 Jun 7, 2009
DaDevil wrote:
SURPRISE,STAN VAN PANICS
Contrary to popular beleif players do like to have a rythym going. The Magic were a locked and loaded team all playoffs. Even in the games lost they played hard. Totally outclassed in game 1. Need to refocus, can they?
besides when we were beaten in our home opener and blown out by Boston.
Bob

United States

#34 Jun 7, 2009
STFU
Baklabob

Ocoee, FL

#35 Jun 7, 2009
Mamba24 wrote:
Why is you Magic fans don't understand basketball. It wasn't lack of effort that the Magic out rebounded. It is their style of play. The Magic rely on their fast break to get them those transition 3pt shots. So when the shot goes up the rest of the Magic is heading the other way expecting Howard to get the rebound while the Lakers are sending 3 and 4 players to the boards.
Howard wasn't able to get repeated deep post position not because of lack of effort but because Bynum and Gasol would hustling back every play beating Howard down the floor and meeting him with a bump at the free throw line. Big Z couldn't beat my grandmother down the floor.
So the bottom line its pick your poison. Do the Magic want to send more players to the boards which then erases their transition game and force them to play a half court offense which plays into the Laker's hand or stick with what got them here.
In my opinion the Magic will lose this series because D-HOW'slack of a post game. Other than dunks or getting Offensive rebounds he has a 2 to 3 foot hook from the middle of the key. You force him baseline and he has nothing. He has nothing from either block.
What was that? Why is you can't write English? After the Lakers lose the the finals, use the time for some remedial English classes. You won't be any smarter, but people might not laugh as much when you talk to them.
Water Boy

Fullerton, CA

#36 Jun 7, 2009
magicact07 wrote:
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With the Lakers inability,this post-season, to play consistently good basketball coupled with the Magic's very consistent ability to throttle teams with tremendous shooting, I'd be careful as to how confident you have become with your fluke 25 point win. A very, very rude awakening is just over the horizon in Lakerland. Look forward to seeing you on this forum tomorrow. I'll be the one throwing the great Will Smith line at you. "Somehow, I told ya so just don't quite say it!" Until then, Cheers!
It cant be a Fluke if you win Back 2 Back son!

It is You that is in for the rude awakening chief.

I just Love it when you Magic fans run your moufs!

In my best will Smiff Voice: "Somehow, I told ya so Just dont quite say it!" ....CHEERS!
magicact07

United States

#37 Jun 8, 2009
Water Boy wrote:
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It cant be a Fluke if you win Back 2 Back son!
It is You that is in for the rude awakening chief.
I just Love it when you Magic fans run your moufs!
In my best will Smiff Voice: "Somehow, I told ya so Just dont quite say it!" ....CHEERS!
If you don't mind, could you please enlighten me as to what a "mouf" and "Smiff" is?? Lol
Hey, I admit it, I was wrong. Barely.. but wrong. If Courtney Lee makes that layup then guess what? You're singing a very different tune today. So instead of being arrogant, I would be thankful that Mr. Lee pulled a Bill Buckner of basketball. Here's to the Magic winning three straight in Orlando. CHEERS!

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