Length of Los Angeles Lakers' big men a large problem for Orlan...

Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard said his first game in the NBA Finals felt "kind of normal." "The only thing that was different is you're seeing the big trophy everywhere you look." Actually, the decorations adorned with images of the NBA title trophy weren't the only things with impressive size. Full Story
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Junior

Orlando, FL

#1 Jun 5, 2009
Watch the Magic crybabys try to blame the coach for their poor
performance.
Mike

Daytona Beach, FL

#2 Jun 5, 2009
very good factual points made in this article. As a Magic fan, we have to look at the facts, not what we did against CAVS or CELTICS.

I believe we will attempt going with Gortat and DH at 4 and 5 and then run Jameer Turk and Rashard at 1,2 and 3 (with C Lee subbing for Turk)

With that said, I didn't see our guys come out and bring the intensity or effort in Game 1. We just looked "off" We didn't run like we did in Game 6 of the Cavs series. Stan's quote says it all here:

"We didn't make anywhere near a good enough effort on the glass to even say whether or not we can even rebound with them or not," Van Gundy said" This is why I think we will see more Gortat.

That's why the LA fans are dogging us too. In Game 1 we looked like we were at a family BBQ. I don't know how smart it was playing Jameer all 2nd quarter. I'm not blaming Stan but just dropping him in the "FINALS" after being out 4 months for a whole quarter would lead me to believe Stan is going to just go with Jameer going forward. So maybe that will pay off but as we can see being Game Ready is a diff story

We've been here before BUT (and this is a HUGE BUT) We are dreaming if we think we can spot LA 15 point leads and just push the button late in the 3rd. This is a lot better team than anyone else we've played.... I know that is obvious but that is what surprised me in terms of our demeanor in Game 1. I am just being honest here. I know we will have to do MORE or something ELSE than just "hit 3s"

One thing this series will do for DH is put a light on the areas he MUST improve on (offensively) to make him a complete player. Kobe is on a mission and he does a lot more to get his guys involved than LBJ...so that is not a thought

I mean with the CAVS...it was pass to LBJ and watch...That wore on him and we capitalized. THIS is a totally different animal.

I am looking at this objectively and I believe Gortat HAS to get more mins and play big for us to get more O REBS

I know we have come back from adversity and big losses before and I am hoping we are ON Sunday. Effort helps a lot of missed shots

Lets Go Magic. At least bring the intensity and make LA work for it! Win Game 2 and everything changes.
Jeff

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 Jun 5, 2009
I must say I'm a die-hard Laker fan, but Mike that is a very good post. And I'm not here to smack.

The 2-3-2 Format is a very dangerous format for the Home team, and anything can happen with three games back in Orlando.

The Magic always have responded, and by no means do I expect a sweep, even if they are down 0-2. But no way will the Magic beat the Lakers four times.

The first quarter, and midway through the second, before the Kobe show took over. I was very concerned with the foul trouble the big guys had. So that is my biggest concern in the coming games.

However I feel Van Gundy will just be outmatched plain and simple.

Good luck with your home stand...
Mamba24

United States

#4 Jun 5, 2009
Why is you Magic fans don't understand basketball. It wasn't lack of effort that the Magic out rebounded. It is their style of play. The Magic rely on their fast break to get them those transition 3pt shots. So when the shot goes up the rest of the Magic is heading the other way expecting Howard to get the rebound while the Lakers are sending 3 and 4 players to the boards.

Howard wasn't able to get repeated deep post position not because of lack of effort but because Bynum and Gasol would hustling back every play beating Howard down the floor and meeting him with a bump at the free throw line. Big Z couldn't beat my grandmother down the floor.

So the bottom line its pick your poison. Do the Magic want to send more players to the boards which then erases their transition game and force them to play a half court offense which plays into the Laker's hand or stick with what got them here.

In my opinion the Magic will lose this series because D-HOW'slack of a post game. Other than dunks or getting Offensive rebounds he has a 2 to 3 foot hook from the middle of the key. You force him baseline and he has nothing. He has nothing from either block.
Lakeshow

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#6 Jun 5, 2009
Got to feel bad for the Magic. They will be 0-8 in the Finals. And Superboy will bolt to Free Agency in 2010.
Bevo Francis

Clermont, FL

#8 Jun 6, 2009
It was the 29% shooting that killed the Magic. They were getting open looks all night and couldn't knock down a shot. If they hit 45%...they win.
Jeff

Orlando, FL

#9 Jun 6, 2009
The key in the half court sets is simply ball movement. Howard will get doubled or fouled every time down. So go to him in the post. If doubled kick it out. If fouled get a quick 5 every quarter then attack the hoop and draw some fouls and get to the line. After LA realizes that fouling so much isnt to their advantage Howard will be able to get going inside. It all starts with Howard. We'll see how we fight in game 2.
Mamba24

United States

#10 Jun 6, 2009
Bevo Francis wrote:
It was the 29% shooting that killed the Magic. They were getting open looks all night and couldn't knock down a shot. If they hit 45%...they win.
The Magic shot 8-23 from downtown. If the Magic would have went 16-23 that would have gave them 24 more points for a total of 99. Don't forget the Lakers called off the dogs so that 100 spot they put could have easily been 110 to 115 if they let the starters keep playing.

The Magic averaged 10 three pointers per game in the Cleveland series so in reality they were two off their average.You say if they hit 45%? In the Cleveland series the Magic averagred 40% and that was with a quarter of OT. If they would have shot 47% in that game that is only them making 3 more 3 point baskets.
Mamba24

United States

#11 Jun 6, 2009
Bevo my bad I though you were strictly talking about 3 point percentages. Still the Magic shot two off their average of 3 pointers per game so if the Magic would have shot better I still see a loss for that game. Do i think the Magic are a 30% shooting team against the Lakers? No. I think they can do better but do I think they are a 45% shooting team against the Lakers? No. I think against this Laker team that is now playing defense I see the Magic being a 38 -40% shooting team. The Magic seem to average aroudn 45% against the Cavs.
Johnnyboy

Oviedo, FL

#12 Jun 6, 2009
I like that line up Mike wrote and it makes perfect sense. Hopefully Stan has the guts to start Jameer,even with the rust he is our best chance to win. Gortat at PF yes! We have to match them up in the inside and make them pay with our outside shooting. Hats off to LA ,they beat us fair and square. Refreshing to see the refs let the teams play instead of that crap in Cleveland.
JOSE PEREZ

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#13 Jun 6, 2009
To SVG and OS: This is not excuse. In 1663 Glaser defined CHEMISTRY as a scientific art, by which one learns to draw from the bodies the different substances on their composition, and how to unite them again, and exalt them to a higher perfection. Once this chemistry is obtained you do not introduce a new body capable of altering that chemistry. In sports, the intangible that binds a team together is known as "team chemistry". This intangible makes the difference between an ordinary season and an outstanding one. During this season SVG developed and enhanced it and the Magic had obtained the chemistry capable of catapulting the team to the championship. Why then, at the start of the most crucial series, a new body was introduced to the composition? The replacement of your point guard at the start of the NBA Finals is like replacing your fourth man at bat at the start of the World Series, or you quarterback at the start of the Super Bowl. This is insane. We all saw the result last night. Rafer was out of rhythm. Johnson did not play. Turk and Lewis were out of mojo. Even Superman did not fly. The team chemistry was altered and broken. There still time. Please restore the chemistry immediately. Otherwise, the Magic will lose this series badly. Go Magic!
tony zale

Kraków, Poland

#14 Jun 6, 2009
I think to have Jameer on the floor is great advantage - for the Lakers. How good is he now ?
Is he at 50 % or maybe 75 %? Even if he's at 100 % it is not good to put a guy with completely different style of play a starter and a leader and
all of a sudden try to make him a valuable player
off the bench.
It can happen in the reg.season ,but put him right into the Finals with hungry Lakers is just crazy and stupid.
Johnnyboy

Oviedo, FL

#15 Jun 6, 2009
Look, these guys get paid a lot of money to find their "rythem". No offense to Rafer but that logic doesn't fly when you call yourself a professional. Second, Jameer has played and led this team for 4 years, he isn't some desparate option that we are grasping for straws with. We lost Thursday because of 29% shooting and LA good effort. IE, we couldn't hit the side of a barn Thursday night. Stan's got his work cut out for him and some tough decisions, a huge one imo is what to do with Lee. He will be a great player no doubt but he is forcing the offense and getting smoked on D. Say what you will about Reddick but the guy gives us good ball movement and has big game experience (national Championship Games)
magicact07

Lakeland, FL

#16 Jun 6, 2009
Lakeshow wrote:
Got to feel bad for the Magic. They will be 0-8 in the Finals. And Superboy will bolt to Free Agency in 2010.
Anyone out there in LaLa land who truly believes this series is going to end in a sweep does nothing for themselves but prove that your world famous smog frys brain cells. Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%? That Dwight Howard is going to finish another game with just one field goal? That the Lakers' Luke Walton and D Fisher are going to combine for over 71% from the floor in every game? Orlando, all post season long, has proven they can rebound after a tough loss. Whether it has been a last second heartbreaker or an ugly blowout, this team always comes out the next game focused and ready to play. Magic win game two. Bank on it.
Junior Concord CA

Walnut Creek, CA

#17 Jun 6, 2009
Mamba24 wrote:
Why is you Magic fans don't understand basketball. It wasn't lack of effort that the Magic out rebounded. It is their style of play. The Magic rely on their fast break to get them those transition 3pt shots. So when the shot goes up the rest of the Magic is heading the other way expecting Howard to get the rebound while the Lakers are sending 3 and 4 players to the boards.
Howard wasn't able to get repeated deep post position not because of lack of effort but because Bynum and Gasol would hustling back every play beating Howard down the floor and meeting him with a bump at the free throw line. Big Z couldn't beat my grandmother down the floor.
So the bottom line its pick your poison. Do the Magic want to send more players to the boards which then erases their transition game and force them to play a half court offense which plays into the Laker's hand or stick with what got them here.
In my opinion the Magic will lose this series because D-HOW'slack of a post game. Other than dunks or getting Offensive rebounds he has a 2 to 3 foot hook from the middle of the key. You force him baseline and he has nothing. He has nothing from either block.
Mamba24 - LOL
Bynum and Gasol beating Howard down the floor? That's just plain hysterical.
Those two won't be winning any 94 ft sprints with Dwight any time soon.
orlandodolphin

Debary, FL

#18 Jun 6, 2009
Sunday night is game 7 for Orlando. If we lose we are toast.
Mike

Daytona Beach, FL

#19 Jun 6, 2009
Why is you Magic fans don't understand basketball. It wasn't lack of effort that the Magic out rebounded. It is their style of play."

Mamba,

The playoffs are about adjustments. I was quoting their own coach regarding effort. Believe me you can say "We" don't understand B-Ball all you want - what cause you're an LA fan? Give me a break. We have to get more Offensive rebounds and adjust. DH IS a more limited Big. Yes, I know that.

The point is that he dominates with his athleticism and strength which comes from effort and intensity. That is something he can control and has nothing to do with "style of play" so stop trying to sound like some crack expert that you aren't.
Mike

Daytona Beach, FL

#20 Jun 6, 2009
Other than dunks or getting Offensive rebounds he has a 2 to 3 foot hook from the middle of the key. You force him baseline and he has nothing. He has nothing from either block."
Ah with that nothing of a game is is averaging 20 points and a dozen boards in the post season - probably more than any other center, right? I understand all your "points" but you tend to analyze one game and make some serious generalizations. DH will have 20/15 games in this series. He has to for us to have a chance. The difference between you and I is that I fully believe that he will bounce back from Game 1 and get his scoring back up while you believe that the Lakers have it all figured out and it simply over. We'll see.
Confused

Ocala, FL

#21 Jun 6, 2009
Did Dwight shrink an inch? Smhmitz says he's 6' 10". Hasn't this guys been covering the Magic for a while?
Mike

Daytona Beach, FL

#22 Jun 6, 2009
"Do you really think Orlando is going to continue shooting 29%? That Dwight Howard is going to finish another game with just one field goal? That the Lakers' Luke Walton and D Fisher are going to combine for over 71% from the floor in every game?"

No you have it all wrong....According to Mamba people in Orlando just don't understand basketball. He actually thinks Howard is a nothing player. No game...only a rebounder with limited skills.

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