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huh

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Jan 1, 2008
the pacers lost again? say it aint so jermaine, say it aint so!

“Pacers rebuild use Suns Model!”

Since: Nov 07

Greenwood

#22 Jan 1, 2008
Trade scenarios are fun to play with but not one team in their right mind (or with memebers worth having) would want a bunch of thugs and hootie bar hoppers. JO is the only one worth anything and it ain't much.
indy

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Jan 1, 2008
remember that the new jersey trade was close and miami needs a big guy that can shoot and get some space to shaq they also need a point guard, pat riley is not happy with jason and smush parker and new jersey needs a big guy in the midle just imagine vince,jermaine and jason kid so it does not sound crazy to talk about this possibility
Zwingli the Miffed

Denver, CO

#24 Jan 1, 2008
indy wrote:
at the end the pacers would have Richard,Danny,ike,dunleavy and jason williams. in the bench they could have smush,williams,daniels,diener, owen david rush and foster this could be a better team than the one we have now.
plus they could have enough money next year to sing a FREE AGENT they don't need to rebuild if they make small moves.
let me know what you guys think?
No free agent will come play for the Pacers for the forseeable future. Who would want to come play for a bunch of bigoted hillbilly fans?
MJK

United States

#25 Jan 1, 2008
I bet no other NBA basketball players have ever been to a 'hootie bar' or have gotten into fights.

The Pacers don't need to trade any players. It needs to leave the Red Neck sh** hole that is Indianapolis.
Suns Fan wrote:
Trade scenarios are fun to play with but not one team in their right mind (or with memebers worth having) would want a bunch of thugs and hootie bar hoppers. JO is the only one worth anything and it ain't much.
IPS graduates 52 percent

Greens Fork, IN

#26 Jan 1, 2008
MJK wrote:
I bet no other NBA basketball players have ever been to a 'hootie bar' or have gotten into fights.
The Pacers don't need to trade any players. It needs to leave the Red Neck sh** hole that is Indianapolis.
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Yea it's the fans fault some members of the Pacers keep getting into trouble with the law.
ARS

Thousand Oaks, CA

#27 Jan 1, 2008
Suns Fan wrote:
I'll say it again "This team needs to be dismantaled and completely rebuilt. I'd only save Foster due to his effort. Effort we should be able to work with.
Start at the GM and wipe it clean and start over.
and then we go 10 years w/o a playoff appearance and you come up with something else that sounds just as dumb.
ARS

Thousand Oaks, CA

#28 Jan 1, 2008
James wrote:
Danny says that they need to stop making turnovers and stop taking contested shots in the last 5-7 minutes. Then, DO IT, Danny! I get tired of hearing the same comments game after game from everybody. They complain about what they know they should do, but never do it. J.O. is good, but he is not a take charge player that can put the game on his shoulders at the end and get us a victory. None of our other players have that ability either. I can take losing to Boston, Detroit, San Antonio, etc., but we should not lose to teams like the Bobcats or the Raptors. Playoffs? Playoffs?
the Raptors are a team similar to our Pacers, but the core of that team has played more games together than the Pacers and they have a few more athletic players. The Bobcats are a VERY underachieving team right now. Richardson with Wallace is a good combo, Okafor is a solid PF, if healthy they can be last years Warriors. These are 2 of the teams that can very soon be considered the teams that we "just cant beat". You know how it is (being a Pacer fan) that it seems in a couple years span that there are teams that seem to always beat us. The role usually is reversed also, there are teams that we always play well against that are known as superior teams. The Heat are not playing like it, but they have a more capable team than we do, but we continue to give them a hard time. All teams in the league have at least 1 shiny player with raw ability, I dont know who that guy is on the Pacers. What we DO have is a group of players that are still trying to show the league that they can play if given the opportunity.
ARS

Thousand Oaks, CA

#29 Jan 1, 2008
Granger,Dunleavy, Tinsley,Foster,Diogu, Rush,Williams, Murphy, Harrison, Owens, Diener are all good players, but with the uncertainty of the future with JO dont act like this is not the only team in the league thats looking for their "star" or what most consider "franchise" player. Like I said we have good players,but every team needs a guy thats on the WILL NOT trade away list. GOOD LUCK PACERS hang in there fans
mooch

Plymouth, MN

#30 Jan 2, 2008
indy wrote:
trade scenarios:
indiana receive:
1-jason williams 8.9 millions and one year left
2-alonzo mourning 2.7 millions and one year left(retire)
3- smush parker 2.2 millions and one year left
miami receive:
1-jamaal tinsley 6.3 millions and 4 years left
2- troy murphy 9.2 millions and 4 years left.
if none of this players is resign next year they could have a cap room of close to 12 millions to sign a free agent. they could make this move and would not affect how bad the team is playing. smush and jason could be decent point guards. jason could run better than tinsley.
Stupidest trade scenarios I have ever heard, have you jason williams play lately or smush parker, are you tryna set us back 10-15 years, they are bums and can't hold a candle to tinsley, then your other trade scenario is riduculous, that's why we are supposed to be fans and not GM's, some of you fans don't know what the hell you are taling about, maybe the pacers should leave indianapolis, hey we'd love to have a franchise back in buffalo, some of you guys are really bandwagon fans, kill the team when were down and love them when we up, it a shame. I wear my heart on my sleeve and get very frustrated when we lose but i won't come on a message board and dog my team, I will express my frustration but the team is not gon get better by dogging them, what they need is support of their fans. Will the real pacer fans please stand up!!!!
Fell Down Funked Up

Denver, CO

#31 Jan 2, 2008
IPS graduates 52 percent wrote:
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Yea it's the fans fault some members of the Pacers keep getting into trouble with the law.
It possibly doesn't reflect well on the fans that they seem to think Jamaal Tinsley either broke the law or was directly responsible for his near-murder last month. It possibly doesn't reflect well on the fans that many of them posted regretful posts on this board that Tinsley wasn't murdered. It definitely reflects poorly on you whenever you freak out about Shawne Williams and act as if a joint is akin to heroin.
IPS graduates 52 percent

Greens Fork, IN

#32 Jan 2, 2008
Fell Down Funked Up wrote:
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It possibly doesn't reflect well on the fans that they seem to think Jamaal Tinsley either broke the law or was directly responsible for his near-murder last month. It possibly doesn't reflect well on the fans that many of them posted regretful posts on this board that Tinsley wasn't murdered. It definitely reflects poorly on you whenever you freak out about Shawne Williams and act as if a joint is akin to heroin.
Yea, youíre right marijuana is no big deal, thatís why companies donít test for it when hiring employees.

Theyíre good guys, heck they even help their friends from high school hide from the cops when they are wanted for dealing drugs.

And that pending felony charge is just a blown way out of proportion.
Fell Down Funked Up

Denver, CO

#33 Jan 2, 2008
IPS graduates 52 percent wrote:
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Yea, youíre right marijuana is no big deal, thatís why companies donít test for it when hiring employees.
Theyíre good guys, heck they even help their friends from high school hide from the cops when they are wanted for dealing drugs.
And that pending felony charge is just a blown way out of proportion.
Marijuana really isn't that big of a deal as long as you aren't operating heavy machinery. Businesses don't want you drinking on the clock either, but they don't test for that. Only dumdum Hoosiers think pot is something to freak out over.

Tinsley's 8 Seconds trial is in fact a serious matter. However, only if he is found guilty of something, the Pacers aren't really in a position to do anything about it. You know, due process. Remember, in the court of public opinion the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty.

If you actually read what I said, you would realize that people blaming Tinsley as being solely responsible for his near-murder reflects pretty badly on the fan base.

By all means, keep up your crusade. No free agent wants to play for fans that are as judgmental, sanctimonious, hypocritical (they sold out Conseco every night after the Brawl), and borderline racist.
ben dover

Pryor, OK

#34 Jan 2, 2008
what's new?
IPS graduates 52 percent

Greens Fork, IN

#35 Jan 2, 2008
Fell Down Funked Up wrote:
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Marijuana really isn't that big of a deal as long as you aren't operating heavy machinery. Businesses don't want you drinking on the clock either, but they don't test for that. Only dumdum Hoosiers think pot is something to freak out over.
Really? Are you sure itís no big deal? So why do companies spend all this money testing for drugs (including marijuana) if itís not a big deal. Why donít the businesses hire the people who pass the drug test except for marijuana? And yes, when you fail a drug test itís reported exactly what part of the test you failed. Seems to me that itís illegal, and employers donít want their employees on it. Hmm...

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