Pacers lose to Bobcats in overtime

Pacers lose to Bobcats in overtime

There are 35 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Dec 31, 2007, titled Pacers lose to Bobcats in overtime. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

There was no other way for the Indiana Pacers to close out 2007. A strong first half.

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Mookie

Orlando, FL

#1 Jan 1, 2008
2008...a fresh start...the new, new Pacers...new coach...new attitude...new day...Oh wait, we just did all of that. Oh well, it was worth a try.
Jeff from Delphi

United States

#2 Jan 1, 2008
IF we could bring intensity on the defensive end to the last 6 minutes of these types of losses they wouldn't happen. No weak side, help or team defense. I don't understand it. How do you sag on a spot-up 3pt shooter with the game on the line or not rotate after dribble penetration?

Ball handling mistakes and missed shots are part of the game.... but playing sissy-boy defense with the game on the line is unacceptable.
Fan

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Jan 1, 2008
Suit up, Larry.

“Pacers rebuild use Suns Model!”

Since: Nov 07

Greenwood

#4 Jan 1, 2008
I'll say it again "This team needs to be dismantaled and completely rebuilt. I'd only save Foster due to his effort. Effort we should be able to work with.

Start at the GM and wipe it clean and start over.
Mr Obvious

United States

#5 Jan 1, 2008
This Pacers team is not very good. They do not appear to be a tightly knit bunch and they blow a lot of 2nd half leads. Worst of all, they play like something is owed to them, like they don't have the desire/professionalism required to win in the NBA.
Until they find that desire Conseco Fieldhouse will continue to be a very lonely place.
oldady

United States

#6 Jan 1, 2008
Jermaine says they have lost several games in the last fives minutes. If he would take a long hard look in the mirror he would know why we have lost. He wants to take it over and CAN'T do it.. He misses baskets, throws the ball away and gets the other guys out of rhythym. Get rid of J.O. or we will never win anything. I don't understand how he has the coach and home office so blinded. He is the problem. Get rid of the $&^%&%* and we can do something. He is not worth a $#^^$ anymore. He will not keep his mind on the game he wants fame. All he does is look for the camera. Jim wake up and smell the coffee. What we are smelling now smells like $$&^%&. You will never fill Conseco house again as long as Jermaine O'Neal is still there. It is a shame! All he wants to do is shove people around and knock them down and then whine when he gets a foul called on him. Poor baby needs his diaper changed. Get rid of the Jerk!!!
Tinzley

Marysville, OH

#7 Jan 1, 2008
Jeff from Delphi wrote:
IF we could bring intensity on the defensive end to the last 6 minutes of these types of losses they wouldn't happen. No weak side, help or team defense. I don't understand it. How do you sag on a spot-up 3pt shooter with the game on the line or not rotate after dribble penetration?
Ball handling mistakes and missed shots are part of the game.... but playing sissy-boy defense with the game on the line is unacceptable.
Defense? In the NBA?
oldady

United States

#8 Jan 1, 2008
Mr Obvious wrote:
This Pacers team is not very good. They do not appear to be a tightly knit bunch and they blow a lot of 2nd half leads. Worst of all, they play like something is owed to them, like they don't have the desire/professionalism required to win in the NBA.
Until they find that desire Conseco Fieldhouse will continue to be a very lonely place.
That is why it makes it hard to get aggravated with them, they ARE a good close knit team when J.O. is not playing. They get way ahead and then J.O. comes back in. In the last five minutes or so, everytime HE tries to take over and HE blows the whole thing. He shoots and misses and we don't get offensive rebounds, so it goes back the other way and they score. You do this too many times and your lead comes down. HE gets them down so far and then they just start shooting not waiting for a good shot. They want to win, but by this time they are so far out of rhythym thanks to Jermaine O'Neal, they blew it. They should NEVER pass the ball to Jermaine in the last quarter. Actually HE should not be allowed to play in the last quarter. I still honestly believe he deliberately throws the game. I believe J.O. bets on the games. Get rid of Jermaine and you will see an entirely new ballgame.

Jeff Foster, David Harrison, Mike Leavy, Troy Murphy, Danny Granger, Jamaal Tinsley etc., they all play well with one another. They are a TEAM. They want to win and it is too obvious Jermaine wants the Indiana Pacers to lose. He wants to be in New York with Isaih Thomas. Let him go. Watch the team grow and win. All Jermaine is there for is a Humongus Pay Check.

Wake up Larry, you know better than this. You know what he is doing, this is what really makes me mad. You know yourself. You aren't that stupid....We, the true fans, don't want to lose the Franchise of the Indiana Pacers. I am afraid if it isn't straightened out pretty soon, it's gone. What a unnecessary loss that would be. Get rid of the Jerk, Jermaine O'Neal. Send him to Hollywood, that is where he really wants to be anyway. Sign him up with Reggie's buddy in New York...Ha ha!!
James

Greencastle, IN

#9 Jan 1, 2008
Danny says that they need to stop making turnovers and stop taking contested shots in the last 5-7 minutes. Then, DO IT, Danny! I get tired of hearing the same comments game after game from everybody. They complain about what they know they should do, but never do it. J.O. is good, but he is not a take charge player that can put the game on his shoulders at the end and get us a victory. None of our other players have that ability either. I can take losing to Boston, Detroit, San Antonio, etc., but we should not lose to teams like the Bobcats or the Raptors. Playoffs? Playoffs?
Fanfare

AOL

#10 Jan 1, 2008
Closing out the game they throw into O'Neal who is worn out by then and cannot make the shot. No lift. All other teams know their routine so zero in on him. How many shots did he take the final ten minutes and how many did he miss. Does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out. O'Neal is good but everyone knows what the game plan is and after playing 40 some minutes, his legs are gone.
Steve From Area 51

United States

#11 Jan 1, 2008
Ok, 10, 11 and 13 point leads aren't much in the NBA, anless you're inside 1 minute to play. But 25 and 21 point leads should hold up, unless you don't believe in yourself and you're just waiting (no, asking) for the other shoe to fall.

I heard the score late in the 3rd period, on my car radio (it was an early game afterall...) and, like many I suspect, I was thinking: "oh oh, they've got us right where they want us...". That kind of thinking, not by fans, but by the team, has to stop!

Maybe these guys need a hypnotist to convince them that they can actually get ahead...and win!?
bill

United States

#12 Jan 1, 2008
Mr Obvious wrote:
This Pacers team is not very good. They do not appear to be a tightly knit bunch and they blow a lot of 2nd half leads. Worst of all, they play like something is owed to them, like they don't have the desire/professionalism required to win in the NBA.
Until they find that desire Conseco Fieldhouse will continue to be a very lonely place.
It is obvious and I agree. I'm headed back to Indy tonight from vacation. I attended six games this year so far. But I'm just about done. The team is just not there yet, and I cannot stand Jermaine Oneal. Overrated, whiny, not a team leader. He loses more games for us than he wins. They did this same blown lead act vs Charlotte last month. I mean, this is Charlotte, not Boston or Det.
True Pacer Fan

Jeffersonville, OH

#13 Jan 1, 2008
Dunleavy, who fouled out with just over 3 minutes left, was particularly upset about Charlotte shooting 18 free throws in the fourth quarter. Indiana was 1-for-2.

"They got a lot of calls. That was the difference," Dunleavy said. "I've never known a game to have that much of a disparity."

The NBA dislikes the Pacers about as much as their fans do... Pathitic...
True Pacer Fan

Jeffersonville, OH

#14 Jan 1, 2008
I meant "Pathetic"!
Julius Erving

Cincinnati, OH

#15 Jan 1, 2008
Same old Pacers. No Heart.
rsb

Panama City, FL

#16 Jan 1, 2008
They just need to save a spurt for the last quarter.I like the new coach as he is in an adjusting mode.Larry still needs to stay on top of business.
Red

United States

#17 Jan 1, 2008
Is it just me but it seems like the more Jeff Foster plays we win games. He does all the little things great. How do you play the best rebounder in the NBA only 12 minutes.
indy

Fishers, IN

#18 Jan 1, 2008
trade scenarios:
indiana receive:
1-jason williams 8.9 millions and one year left
2-alonzo mourning 2.7 millions and one year left(retire)
3- smush parker 2.2 millions and one year left
miami receive:
1-jamaal tinsley 6.3 millions and 4 years left
2- troy murphy 9.2 millions and 4 years left.
if none of this players is resign next year they could have a cap room of close to 12 millions to sign a free agent. they could make this move and would not affect how bad the team is playing. smush and jason could be decent point guards. jason could run better than tinsley.
indy

Fishers, IN

#19 Jan 1, 2008
another trade scenario:
indiana receive:
1- Richard jefferson 12.2 millions and 4 years left
2-Nenad krstic 1.8 one year left
3-jamaal magloire 4 millions one year left
new jersey receive:
1- Jermaine O'neal 19.8 millions 2 years left.

what do you guys think?
indy

Fishers, IN

#20 Jan 1, 2008
at the end the pacers would have Richard,Danny,ike,dunleavy and jason williams. in the bench they could have smush,williams,daniels,diener, owen david rush and foster this could be a better team than the one we have now.
plus they could have enough money next year to sing a FREE AGENT they don't need to rebuild if they make small moves.

let me know what you guys think?

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