Knicks, Clippers in talks over Randolph

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Stephon Marbury 's future remains unresolved, but the Knicks are on the verge of moving another big contract -- Zach Randolph 's. A person close to the situation confirmed Friday that the Los Angeles Clippers ... Full Story
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New New York

Bowie, MD

#1 Jul 11, 2008
Look Donnie Walsh has more knowledge of the game in one finger than I do in my whole body! So how can I tell him what to do, but I'm going to do so anyways. Donnie listen, this deal makes sense, I can understand that it is your job to explore every option during a trade proposal to see how bad a team wants a player. But a team willing to take Zach's contract is just what you need right now. Eric Gordon would be a great addition to this trade, but lets not get greedy and lose out on an oppotunity to accoplishing the first major step in this rebuilding process. I propose we take Tim Thomas, a 2010 pick, and the rights to DeAndre Jordan for Zach. We dump Zach's cap killing contract, get our pick back that Isiah traded away, and we send DeAndre Jordan to the D League to track his growth (or lack there of). Most important we get a shorter cheaper contract in Tim Thomas. Also Tim is familar with Dantoni's system (remember that is why The Clips were so intrigued by him, because how he played in his stint with Mike) so this is not just a throw in player for, he can help us, and if not, he stilled saved us 7 million this season, about 9 million the next and 16 the year after.

This is not a deal that we can let slip through the cracks. Trust me as a Knick fan a new sense of hope will be felt if Donnie can just undo Isiah's last major mistake.
Brian C from SoHo

San Francisco, CA

#2 Jul 12, 2008
...would also try to get gordan or at least DeAndre Jordan from clippers along with their short unwanted salaries. Id personally would rather be calling the bobcats about Okafor and Felton, but knicks seem to want to throw all their eggs in the 2010 Labron James basket, having no one left on their team for him to play with come that summer. Hope we don't get burned, ending up with nothing significant to show but cap space in 2 years.
Greg

Stamford, CT

#3 Jul 12, 2008
from my sources: the exact trade was....

Zach Randolph, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler

for

Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley

now u tell me if u would make that deal....im glad Donnie said no!!
Jerry

AOL

#4 Jul 12, 2008
Greg wrote:
from my sources: the exact trade was....
Zach Randolph, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler
for
Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley
now u tell me if u would make that deal....im glad Donnie said no!!
I agree, no way we are giving up Nate. I don't like Cuttino, he is a shoot first, shoot second, shoot every time he gets the ball player. He is not going to help the Knicks. Tim can be used spottingly until Gallo comes up to speed. Chandler is going to be a player but he is expendable with Gallo there at the SF. However, I would like them to keep him since he is a different type of player than Gallo and would provide match up problems. Randolf is a perfect fit for the Clips.
Jerry

AOL

#5 Jul 12, 2008
New New York wrote:
Look Donnie Walsh has more knowledge of the game in one finger than I do in my whole body! So how can I tell him what to do, but I'm going to do so anyways. Donnie listen, this deal makes sense, I can understand that it is your job to explore every option during a trade proposal to see how bad a team wants a player. But a team willing to take Zach's contract is just what you need right now. Eric Gordon would be a great addition to this trade, but lets not get greedy and lose out on an oppotunity to accoplishing the first major step in this rebuilding process. I propose we take Tim Thomas, a 2010 pick, and the rights to DeAndre Jordan for Zach. We dump Zach's cap killing contract, get our pick back that Isiah traded away, and we send DeAndre Jordan to the D League to track his growth (or lack there of). Most important we get a shorter cheaper contract in Tim Thomas. Also Tim is familar with Dantoni's system (remember that is why The Clips were so intrigued by him, because how he played in his stint with Mike) so this is not just a throw in player for, he can help us, and if not, he stilled saved us 7 million this season, about 9 million the next and 16 the year after.
This is not a deal that we can let slip through the cracks. Trust me as a Knick fan a new sense of hope will be felt if Donnie can just undo Isiah's last major mistake.
Bravo, I like the way you think. Gordon is a dream, but Jordan would be a possiblility, even if we have to give up a 1rst or 2nd rounder next year. Jordan was projected in the top 10 till he slipped late. He has all the tools and under the patience and easy going style of D'Antoni he would flourish. He is exactly....exactly what the Knicks need, a shot blocker with the ability to run the floor and rebound. This would be the most important addition the Knicks could make. To do that they may have to take on Tim and Cuttino but it would be worth it to get Jordan....Cuttino can be let go or traded.
Al Winston

Seminole, FL

#6 Jul 12, 2008
Isiah was spotted last week 2 blocks from MSG and 3 Knick fans mooned him, gave him a one finger salute and hollered "horse's a$$" at him.
He was pissed and got in a waiting car.
Prince

Shirley, NY

#7 Jul 12, 2008
I'm glad Walsh is putting his foot down, showing this is no the same Knicks management. Zeke would have made the trade in a heartbeat. Why so the clippers think they need Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, and Nate Robinson? That's just greedy!
roymvp

United States

#9 Jul 12, 2008
I think that Randolph should go to the Clippers because the Clippers aquired Baron Davis but lost Corey Maggete and Elton Brand so they should get Randolph.
NYK

Syosset, NY

#10 Jul 12, 2008
That would be an amazing move 4 the Knicks 2 get rid of 13 mil. Now they REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON GETTING MONTA ELLIS.
Frank Rizzo

Pleasant Prairie, WI

#11 Jul 12, 2008
^ not gonna happen kid
KOz

Branford, CT

#12 Jul 12, 2008
honestly i think they should try to bundle curry or jeffries in there for maybe mobley, brevin knight, well... i dunno ill just say something more definite.
Knicks- Randolph, Jeffries, Curry

Clippers- B.Knight, and the '09 and '10 first round picks.

i dunno if salaries match but i like the trade because itll give the knicks cap space and itll give the clips more depth in the frontcourt with zach starting and curry backing up Kaman.

thats just my thought
KOz

Branford, CT

#13 Jul 12, 2008
and by getting b.knight if dolan isnt a cheap pr*ck he can buy out marburys contract and it will be knight, duhon, and robinson
knickfan247

Henderson, NV

#14 Jul 12, 2008
i hope this deal goes threw and we get eric gordon and i would like tim thomas to come back to the knicks and start at small foward with the italian kid coming of the bench and maybe jefries starting at poward foward crawford at sg and duhon as pg with q rich backing up crawford and nate backing up duhon, don't forget lee starting at center with eddy curry hopefuly dead and not playing at all
xRaVeN

Belém, Brazil

#15 Jul 12, 2008
interesting that I came up with the same kind of deal about the same time. I don´t know if the clippers have enough cap, but if they, the knicks should accept a deal even for a draft pick. unfortunately I don´t think the clips would accept it, because I think the want/need thoses pick.
as for the knicks, as immensely said before, they should let go either randolph or curry. but since seems easier to dump randolph, so...
I think that despite the closiness of 2010, the knicks should play this season to test the youngsters they have
NYStateOfMind

Ridgewood, NY

#16 Jul 12, 2008
If there's a trade that includes Nate Robinson, the Knicks should gladly accept...

First, I do like his enthusiasm and hustle when he's on the court...however...

I've rarely seen a player with such LOW basketball IQ. Along with Eddy Curry, he's constantly out of position on the defensive end. On the offensive end, he constantly breaks plays and tries to do it all himself.

In my view, there are streetballers that have a better basketball IQ than Nate Robinson...

“The Yankees are my Daddy......”

Since: May 07

MCAGCC, 29 Palms, CA

#17 Jul 12, 2008
1. Nate Robinson was not even asked for in the trade.
2. Neither was Chandler.
3. The Clippers beat writer was on the radio out here and he said the offer was Mobley and the rights to Jordan and that was it.

Walsh is smart standing pat and not excepting that trash.
NYStateOfMind

Ridgewood, NY

#18 Jul 12, 2008
Rangers 4 Life wrote:
1. Nate Robinson was not even asked for in the trade.
2. Neither was Chandler.
3. The Clippers beat writer was on the radio out here and he said the offer was Mobley and the rights to Jordan and that was it.
Walsh is smart standing pat and not excepting that trash.
I don't see how that trade would have been approved by the NBA based on the salaries...

Randolph makes $14.6 million and Mobley makes $9.1 million. Even with Jordan's rookie salary, the aggregate Clipper salaries aren't within 15%...

BTW, I love visiting your part of the country...
Lombardi

United States

#19 Jul 12, 2008
NYStateOfMind wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't see how that trade would have been approved by the NBA based on the salaries...
Randolph makes $14.6 million and Mobley makes $9.1 million. Even with Jordan's rookie salary, the aggregate Clipper salaries aren't within 15%...
BTW, I love visiting your part of the country...
That doesn't matter because the Clippers are well under the cap
NYStateOfMind

Ridgewood, NY

#20 Jul 12, 2008
Lombardi wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't matter because the Clippers are well under the cap
That's not the way it works...

For a trade to be approved by the NBA, the total salaries traded by each team have to be within 15%..

By taking Randolph's current salary of $14.6 million and Mobley's current salary of $9.1 million, the Clippers need to trade a player with a minimum salary of $3.3 million to be within the 15%...
Matt

Solana Beach, CA

#21 Jul 12, 2008
Zach Randolph for Deandre Jordan and Shaun Livingston. C'mon Donnie, that's something the Clippers should be amenable to. It would get rid of Zach's contract, and you'd have an heir apparent to Curry when the Knicks finally cut ties with him. Jordan is a defensive minded seven footer who dunks and blocks shots with authority. He's raw and needs time to develop, so you keep Curry around for a couple of more years. Then you take a flier on a big, pass first point guard who, if he continues to progress from his horrific injury, is far more talented than Duhon. He was a lottery pick and heading to Duke before declaring for the NBA draft. He has mad skills.

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