Knicks, Marbury open buyout discussions

Knicks, Marbury open buyout discussions

There are 22 comments on the Newsday story from Nov 14, 2008, titled Knicks, Marbury open buyout discussions. In it, Newsday reports that:

The Knicks and Stephon Marbury have begun discussions about a buyout of his $21.9 million salary.

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Jimmy

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Nov 14, 2008
Get ready for those cable rates to jump up again. MSG pays more to people to stay away from their them then to be on it.
tjrover

Spring Valley, NY

#2 Nov 14, 2008
I was starting to really like this not playing him at all tactic, payback for his last few years of selfishness and particularly last year when he almost single handedly ruined the season.
Jimmy

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Nov 14, 2008
Get ready for those cable rates to jump up again. MSG pays more to people to stay away from their team then to be on it.
Mike

Valhalla, NY

#4 Nov 14, 2008
Dag, just play the guy. He is too good to go to another team, let's see if he changed some by playing him a few games. Im tired of depending on chirs duhon man, he is wishy-washy. Nate is legit, put not a solid point guard. Anthony Roberson???? Who is that? Mardy Collins has a good camp and gets a spot, how dumb. He is a solid back up though, just not on the knicks. Steph, Im wit you man, get every penny they owe you and just continue to stay in shape and play well, even though donnie walsh used you as trade bait by telling you to come into the season in the best shape. And Dantoni only playing you because other teams may be watching. All and all, you are still a legit player
Hehateme

Valhalla, NY

#5 Nov 14, 2008
Read Crawfords blog about how he looked up to guys like Marbury. I think that if the team just forgave him, the Chemistry on the team would be much better. All this talk is old now, people will forget as long as you play well and win and it looks like NY is heading toward the playoffs. Forgive the guy....and as for tjrover i didnt know losing so many people close to you in your life has anything to do with him ruining the season last year, and also he played like 20 games, you dum dum
Hammer

United States

#6 Nov 14, 2008
Funny how your boy Berman, adds Marbury's friends claim "he is being held hostage". For 22 mil, show up & do as your told. Maybe the tide is finally turning for the Knicks-a competitive start to the season, a rising talent in Chandler and maybe just maybe some team desperate enough to take Lame Brain Marbury off our payroll. Adios.
tjrover

Spring Valley, NY

#7 Nov 14, 2008
Hehateme wrote:
Read Crawfords blog about how he looked up to guys like Marbury. I think that if the team just forgave him, the Chemistry on the team would be much better. All this talk is old now, people will forget as long as you play well and win and it looks like NY is heading toward the playoffs. Forgive the guy....and as for tjrover i didnt know losing so many people close to you in your life has anything to do with him ruining the season last year, and also he played like 20 games, you dum dum
the season went downhill after Isiah contemplated not starting Marbury and Marbury threw a fit and essentially blackmailed Isiah and when Marbury was reinserted as a started against team vote, Isiah lost the team for good. Why should the Knicks reward that by letting Marbury play for another contract? He's not going to be part of the future here so why should the Knicks give him playing time over guys who will be here next year?

In case no one's noticed - we're rebuilding here.
tjrover

Spring Valley, NY

#8 Nov 14, 2008
Mike wrote:
Dag, just play the guy. He is too good to go to another team, let's see if he changed some by playing him a few games. Im tired of depending on chirs duhon man, he is wishy-washy. Nate is legit, put not a solid point guard. Anthony Roberson???? Who is that? Mardy Collins has a good camp and gets a spot, how dumb. He is a solid back up though, just not on the knicks. Steph, Im wit you man, get every penny they owe you and just continue to stay in shape and play well, even though donnie walsh used you as trade bait by telling you to come into the season in the best shape. And Dantoni only playing you because other teams may be watching. All and all, you are still a legit player
Marbury is not going to be part of the team next year. Why should guys who will be here next year and part of this team's future lose time to a chump like Marbury? Duhon can actually dish the ball and rack up assists, unlike Marbury who is a selfish shoot first PG.
venom

Albany, NY

#10 Nov 14, 2008
Hehateme wrote:
Read Crawfords blog about how he looked up to guys like Marbury. I think that if the team just forgave him, the Chemistry on the team would be much better. All this talk is old now, people will forget as long as you play well and win and it looks like NY is heading toward the playoffs. Forgive the guy....and as for tjrover i didnt know losing so many people close to you in your life has anything to do with him ruining the season last year, and also he played like 20 games, you dum dum
each day that this drags on, sort of kills the notion about this city having the most knowledgable sports fans. they are mindless puppets of the sports media. If the writers say hate a player the fans fall in line like lemmings running off a cliff to the sea.... Somewhere the writers are all having a big laugh.... and deciding who will be the next target... May-Rod? Favre when he loses a big game?

How is Marbury a symbol of last years losing when he played less than 30 games? Did Marbury give JJ $30 mil?

While we're at it how is MAlik Rose contributing more than what Ewing Jr. could have?
venom

Albany, NY

#11 Nov 14, 2008
tjrover wrote:
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Marbury is not going to be part of the team next year. Why should guys who will be here next year and part of this team's future lose time to a chump like Marbury? Duhon can actually dish the ball and rack up assists, unlike Marbury who is a selfish shoot first PG.
I rest my case oh clueless one..... the next time the KNicks need one basket to win and Crawford/Duhon/Q throw up bricks like against the Spurs.... MArbury will be laughing all the way to the bank
venom

Albany, NY

#12 Nov 14, 2008
tjrover wrote:
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the season went downhill after Isiah contemplated not starting Marbury and Marbury threw a fit and essentially blackmailed Isiah and when Marbury was reinserted as a started against team vote, Isiah lost the team for good. Why should the Knicks reward that by letting Marbury play for another contract? He's not going to be part of the future here so why should the Knicks give him playing time over guys who will be here next year?
In case no one's noticed - we're rebuilding here.
okay. Will you give me refunds for tickets to this years games, since the plan is to 'play for next year'!!

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#13 Nov 14, 2008
tjrover wrote:
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Marbury is not going to be part of the team next year. Why should guys who will be here next year and part of this team's future lose time to a chump like Marbury? Duhon can actually dish the ball and rack up assists, unlike Marbury who is a selfish shoot first PG.
true. Isiah overuled the team vote to not let him back when Marbury went home when told that he wouldn't start. and his 'Isiah HAS to start me' and 'I'm the best PG in the NBA' stuff makes it hard to root for him.... but the 'cancer' stuff and symbol of all losing for the past 6 years is stretch.
LIAM

Plano, TX

#14 Nov 14, 2008
Starbury is going to get his cash, but he wont be happy. That makes me happy. hahaha F*CK HIM!
Troy

New York, NY

#15 Nov 14, 2008
It amazes me how the media has had a hand in this stuff.
Now all of a sudden, Newsday reports that Steph has become agitated with his lack of play....and on top of that they report that he thought the Knicks were gonna lose which would make them realize that they need him!!!!
Wake up people..What is wrong with this picture. All along we have heard that Steph has been a model teamate under the circumstances, now the minute its reported he is talks for a Buyout, you MEDIA pogosticks want to report non-factual, garbage, just to continue to blatantly tarnish this dudes rep which was completely tarnished by them in the first place. STEPH DID NOT QUIT THE TEAM IN PHOENIX...HE WAS TOLD SPECIFICALLY BY ZEKE TO GO HOME AND THAT HE WAS GONNA BE BOUGHT OUT!! FACT!!!!!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK ZEKE TOLD THE TEAM BEFORE THEY VOTED FOR HIM NOT TO PLAY...SURE...JUST LIKE HE WASN'T THE ONE WHO WAS RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL!!
Think for yourselves people!!
Sensible One

White Plains, NY

#16 Nov 14, 2008
GET IT OVER WITH!
New Yorker in Florida

United States

#17 Nov 14, 2008
When Marbury was drafted I remember thinking that he would be a better pointguard than Iverson.(same draft year - I believe). My reason was that he looked like a player with better court vision and passing game than AI. Even though I thought AI may be a better player - I thought Marbury would be a better team player. He seemed headed towards that possibility in his rookie year as he played well with Garnett and team. Something changed in his game after that. It is hard to distill but some things can not be disputed.
He does not have a single playoff victory in his career (he may be the most talented player in the history of the NBA with that distinction - this is a league where having one great player translates into some victories).
He does not have the support of his teammates of three different cities. Coming here was supposed to change that but this team likes him least of all.
I can not put as much blame on him as others are willing to do but find it challenging to agree with an issue that some of you posters have declared. If the media is the reason why so many are turned off to Marbury and why he is not getting a shot at playing then one must assume the team would be better off with him. If a successful GM and Coach think they can win or do better with Marbury on the court would they really not do so because the media says this player does not win?
Would there not be great interest from other teams to acquiring Marbury from the Knicks?
Marbury is not the sole reason the Knicks have been such a poor team these past few years but he has not proven to be a winning player. Further than that - he can not be worth anywhere near what they pay him. He has every right to try and be paid the best he can but the Knicks have every right to not play him.
Hector Horowitz

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Nov 14, 2008
This is an embarrassing situation for the Knicks.
AJP

Spencer, WV

#19 Nov 14, 2008
I have said it once and I will say it again, sit his selfish A@$ on the bench and leave him there until the end of the year and let him walk away.
He is a cancer and I would hope no other team in their right mind would pick this loser up.
jerry

United States

#20 Nov 14, 2008
I think both sides are foolish. The Knicks would have been wise to allow Marbury to dress and play him when the Knicks were down, allowing him to showcase his talents and to take any blame from him and D'Antoni. This would have been a win-win situation. Marbury made then made a mistake by not dressing and not practicing. He could have shown that he was capable and willing to play hard and practice hard. By keeping his mouth shut like he has done and playing hard in practice, D'Antoni probably would have let him play and he could have worked himself into the lineup. Steph also has to think about injury to himself in practice and his market value. By practicing hard and keeping in shape I believe he could have increased his value. The Knicks by allowing him to play could have given him this opportunity. Since both sides were hard hearted you have this, Marbury not practising and not available for the Knicks and Marbury not availabe to play with another team because he is getting out of shape and loosing his timing as each week passes. It will be harder for him to adjust. The Knicks could have allowed Marbury to play and then trade him as he showed his worth, like Randolf is. An unwise choice for them. Marbury could have continued dressing and practising hard, keeping quiet. He didn't. An unwise choice for him. Now you have no choice but to trade him for the minimum a wopping 7 percent savings, wonderful Knicks. D'Antoni makes 8 mill or so, he should have made a wiser choice and tried to make Steph more tradeable thereby saving the Knicks some money. He might have fetched 5 to 8 mill in the middle of the season for the right team trying to make it all the way.

A word on Curry. Why would you trade the best low post player in the league? He is only 25, do you rember Parish was a bust before he started for the Celtics? Curry is a young man and will be able to be dominant force in the middle with the right coach. Do you think Larry Brown would be interested in him if he wasn't? Curry would be wise to not do as Marbury did. He should continue to play hard in practise and keep quiet. He will get an opportunitiy and be able to show that he can hack it. Right now he needs to hire a nutritionalist and loose some weight, he makes 8 mill, surely a 50 thousand dollar investment in a good cook would be well worth it. He also needs a personal trainer to help him work out now to work on his upper body and core while he is waiting for his knee to heal.

Let Gallo heal and come back midseason or so, he will be well worth the wait.

Lastly, kudos to Isiah. He may not have been the greatest coach but he did a great job of rebuilding the team. He brought in Lee, Craw,, Nate, Chandler, Curry, Randolf, Collins etc. and all they needed was time to develop and a coach who was patient. I think the talk that Isiah did a bad job will be squashed by the end of the year, if not sooner. Even his busts,(?) Trevor Ariza, Balkman (Still think this was the biggest bonehead trade in Knicks history) and Frye are all in the league and better than average players. If they had let Marbury play this season that may have even panned out, now we'll see him play elsewhere and make a big impact just as Balkman is in Denver, Trevor in LA and Frye in Portland.

No more dumb trades, keep the youth and pick up a shotblocker,(Thabeet) in the draft.
tjrover

Spring Valley, NY

#21 Nov 14, 2008
venom wrote:
<quoted text>I rest my case oh clueless one..... the next time the KNicks need one basket to win and Crawford/Duhon/Q throw up bricks like against the Spurs.... MArbury will be laughing all the way to the bank
weren't you one of Isiah's biggest apologists on these boards last year - that right there STFU. it's called REBUILDING. i don't know how many more times and different ways I can possibly explain it. and quite frankly if Isiah had done this 5 years ago instead of adding and adding to the salary cap we wouldn't be in this mess. you just want to have your cake and eat it too? i bet you think Eddy Curry and Jerome James get a bum rap too. you're moral inversion is amazing - perceiving guys like Marbury and Isiah as victims in all this? 2 biggest cancers and reasons why this franchise is in such a rut.

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