Bulls' Joakim Noah frustrated with in...

Bulls' Joakim Noah frustrated with individual play

There are 11 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 11, 2008, titled Bulls' Joakim Noah frustrated with individual play. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

One day after Bulls coach Vinny Del Negro doled out some uncharacteristically stern words regarding Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas, fellow big man Drew Gooden said it was unfair to compare the former high draft ...

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pepsiman

Pasig City, Philippines

#1 Dec 12, 2008
Noah (3.3 pts, 5.6 rebs, 16:29 mpg)
lame stats
Alex

Chicago, IL

#2 Dec 12, 2008
No-Shot Noah the clown spews and blusters.......we don't want to hear what this 1st round bust has to say about anything.

No-Shot Noah is not in shape and he gets tired----flush him. He had the whole off season to get ready---FLUSH
HIM.....No-Shot will not get better..

Tryus lost his touch on his jumper, he may work out of it....he can get better....he is in shape to play...
He should be given the rest of the year to work it out....if he doesn't
flush him toooooooooo.

Paxson is clueless
Hoop Averse

AOL

#3 Dec 12, 2008
"[Rose] was handed the ball and told,'Lead this team.' " said Gooden. "I don't think it's fair to say Tyrus and Joakim should match what Derrick is doing. It takes more time for certain people.… You have different roles."

I'll go along with that. Let's give them apprentice pay until they perform the job as journeymen.
Joakim Noah would rather be "kickin' it with his Bwoyz" than working on the hardwood. What a pick this bum was.
Hilsto

Youngstown, OH

#4 Dec 12, 2008
I don't expect them to have the same results as Rose, but I do expect them to work on their game as hard as he and any other serious player does. If they want to play that is. If they don't want to take it seriously they can keep riding the bench.

Some guys are talented enough to get by and even be a star without much effort outside of game time (AI for example) and other guys are talented and driven to work on their game endlessly. Thomas and Noah don't really have the effortless talent so they really do need to work hard on their game to be average or above average. Right now they both stink. Noah doesn't know the plays and Thomas doesn't hustle and run the floor. Unless they have learning disabilities this is an effort issue.
John Paxon

United States

#5 Dec 12, 2008
Dear Nba Teams:

Please, I beg of you help me in a trade before I get canned. I screwed up and should have not picked Tyrus in 06 and should have traded the 08 draft pick for a veteran. I just thought I would land a diamond in the rough. Thank goodness I landed the number 1 pick last year and that I did not screw that up yet.

Sincerely,
John Paxon
johnnycomelately

Glendale Heights, IL

#6 Dec 12, 2008
I agree with Gooden. Maybe the problem isn't these 2 players, maybe it's the coach, gm and poor chemistry. You have the same thing as last year. Guards taking 80% of the shots. Anyone who has every played the game knows that if you never touch the ball, you are not going to play hard.
Horace

Cleveland, OH

#7 Dec 12, 2008
Actually, the PG position is the hardest for a rookie to learn in the NBA, by far. So what Rose has done is nothing short of remarkable.

With regard to Thomas and Noah, their only, ONLY, job is to (1) grab rebounds,(2) play interior D, and (3) hustle. For some reason, these two jokers can't figure this out. To make matters worse, Noah isn't even in shape.

I don't care if you're a rookie or 15 year veteran, there's no excuse for being out of shape and not hustling. That's just effort. Enough excuses, Gooden should just come out and say it - those two just don't care.
Rod from Tennessee

AOL

#8 Dec 12, 2008
It's hard to believe that this far into the season that Noah is still tiring on the court. It's very obvious that Noah didn't take a coaching change seriously, and failed to do anything but apparently party all summer long.

I'm proud that Del Negro's not afraid to criticize these guys for lack of effort and hustle. Some new coaches, especially a rookie one, would probably be hesistant about criticizing his bosses, player selections. By Del Negro pointing out Noah's and Thomas' shortcomings, he's basically telling Paxson that he didn't do his homework on these two guys complete abilities. Of course, he's not saying anything about Paxson's abilities that i haven't been screaming for two years now; however, whereas my words come up hollow, hopefully Del Negro's words don't.
Jezeble

Lincoln Park, NJ

#9 Dec 12, 2008
All you people who are so "proud of Del Negro," I can't wait to hear you sing a different tune when he publicly calls out your favorite player. Trust me, Rose will get his too. As for Noah "rather hanging with his bwoyz" I believe Derrick Rose said in his interview that he would love to be back in college hanging in the cafeteria with his teammates. Noah's stats are what they are with limited playing time. People, be realistic -- NOAH'S ROLE ON THIS TEAM IS NOT AN OFFENSIVE ONE!!! The ball is not thrown in to him to score -- he is there to grab boards. Now, compare his boards to any starting center in the league with his minutes and you will find that he is quite productive and is averaging over 1.2 blocks per game as well.

You people are such hypocrites -- Gray runs up and down the floor panting and obviously out of shape, but no one gives a hoot. I guess that now Wallace is gone, Noah and TT are the new scapegoats. If the Bulls were fully committed to these guys, they should have done what most teams in the league do -- HIRE A "BIGS" COACH!
Bonnie

Cottontown, TN

#10 Dec 12, 2008
I have alway been a Joakim Noah fan. He has rel skills. He will never be a high scoring player, his forte is defense, but it is hard to show when you are playing 6 or 7 minutes a game, it's a rythm thing. Anybody can coach a blue chip ball player, but it takes a real coach to develope a player's strenghts and utilize.
Chicago has some cold fans, I think it's the weather. Look at Joakims devensive game, he bangs.
Noah will get it

United States

#11 Dec 16, 2008
I appreciated that Noah took a few seconds to chat with my little boys at a recent road game in Memphis. He is a winner, and displays the right work ethic. I fully expect him to turn a corner this year in his contribution to the team, because he is a hard worker.

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