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Bulls' emphasis on offense a survival tactic

There are 34 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 22, 2008, titled Bulls' emphasis on offense a survival tactic. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Back in the rough-and-tumble days of the Bad Boy Pistons and the Michael Jordan -led Bulls, what Ben Gordon mentioned casually and innocently Monday would have curled Bill Laimbeer's lip and perhaps brought a ...

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Whats

Wayne, IL

#1 Dec 22, 2008
Darn Bulls.
Tiffany

United States

#2 Dec 22, 2008
the only survival tactic the bulls need is to stay healthy for the rest of the season
Boston BullsFan

Dracut, MA

#3 Dec 22, 2008
I have to say that this philosophy would have been great back in the days of Curry and Chandler. I always thought it was a HUGE mistake to try to stamp a defensive indentity on a team that was built for running other teams out of the Gym, but they never did it and lost a lot of games for a team that many thought should have made the playoffs.

The interesting part is that team also was horrible on the road and very good at home.
Tiffany

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#4 Dec 22, 2008
they are a good team,they just cant get any shots to fall
Nada Surf

Mesa, AZ

#5 Dec 22, 2008
Tiffany wrote:
the only survival tactic the bulls need is to stay healthy for the rest of the season
No. No. No. Nooooo....
The Bulls have too many guys that want to play and throw up shots.
They NEED good injuries like the ones to Hinrich and Gooden...
Now of they can get Hughes and Gordon down, they could become quite a team.
Wesley Unsel

Bloomingdale, IL

#6 Dec 22, 2008
Nada Surf wrote:
<quoted text>No. No. No. Nooooo....
The Bulls have too many guys that want to play and throw up shots.
They NEED good injuries like the ones to Hinrich and Gooden...
Now of they can get Hughes and Gordon down, they could become quite a team.
So, let me get this straight .... less is actually more ....that statement may have validity in some circumstances but not here ... they're not that deep of a team; don't kid yourself. Nellie's team of a few years back had a cast of characters and role players and largely played small ball too and surprised the league, but he had a starting lineup and maybe 2 or 3 key guys coming off the bench. You subtract Hinrich, Gooden, Gordon and Hughes off the Bulls and you're down to a nucleus and maybe a few protons...it won't get the job done.
Tiffany

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#7 Dec 22, 2008
nada,why you like seeing dudes get injured?that is not a good look
terry t

Lahaina, HI

#8 Dec 23, 2008
I MUST BE STUPID! i couldn't figure out what kc meant by bulletin board material spoken by gordon. making a comment thats true about the pistons not playing well since iverson, was not only true but also tame. i don't think that if jordan had said the exact same thing in 1989, that it would have riled up the pistons. kc, man who you think you crappin!!!
terry t

Lahaina, HI

#9 Dec 23, 2008
even though they haven't been playing well, they are still capable of beating any team on a given night. thats bulletin board? man, sometimes i think that kc is a little slow.
Pistons Eat Poop

Utica, KY

#10 Dec 23, 2008
Whats wrote:
Darn Bulls.
Up yours Da Bulls beat a stolen team who turned all their fans into convicts.

PS.
Ft. Wayne Indiana-The Pistons+Detroit+Rahseed Wallace+Convict fans-Flip Saunders+Kawmie Brown+crappy New Coach-Theo Ratlif-Lindsey Hunter-Chauncey Billups+AI=Bad Karma=Pacers smash Celtics on their own home turf=Pistons get smashed by the Celtics on their home turf=2009 Pacers>2009 Pistons=No playoffs for the Pistons=2009 Pistons=1999 Bulls
RKA

United States

#11 Dec 23, 2008
Boston BullsFan wrote:
I have to say that this philosophy would have been great back in the days of Curry and Chandler. I always thought it was a HUGE mistake to try to stamp a defensive indentity on a team that was built for running other teams out of the Gym, but they never did it and lost a lot of games for a team that many thought should have made the playoffs.
The interesting part is that team also was horrible on the road and very good at home.
If you're refering to the Scott Skiles lead bulls teams prior to last season, he didn't try to place a defensive identity on them, he did. The Bulls were in the top 5 in defensive FG percentage the 3 seasons they made the playoffs. When the great D stopped, that's when the team lost it's identity of a scrappy team. The last 3-peat Bulls team had the unless the hounds type defense that could shut anyteam down when need be.
RKA

United States

#12 Dec 23, 2008
RKA wrote:
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The last 3-peat Bulls team had the unless the hounds type defense that could shut anyteam down when need be.
i meant unleash the hounds
techenhance

United States

#13 Dec 23, 2008
The lack of defense was expected when Del Negro took over because of his former affiliation with Phoenix. The fact that Pax has basically destroyed the Bulls' front line is a convenient excuse for Del Negro to try to play the offense-oriented style.
Just Steve

Mount Prospect, IL

#14 Dec 23, 2008
Nada -- so you must not be a Bulls fan?

Gordon, as much as I'm not a big fan, has been a strong offensive threat this season so far, and has been a great support for Rose. And Hughes has taken on the third guard/small forward role with enthusiasm. Deng is the player, with all of his salary, that has completely disappeared this season. I'm not sure what he's doing on the court now. He's not playing great defense, he doesn't seem interested in regularly attacking the rim. He seems lost out there.

I'm glad to see Thabo on the court more, and its good to seem Thomas playing better. I keep hoping that Noah will become more consistent, but at least he doesn't look like he's running out of steam as quickly any more.

This team is still in desparate need of a big body power forward presence. Somebody who takes a double team to cover. Then the Gooden/Noah/Gray center combo works. Deng doesn't seem like he's ever going to be what we hoped for, though I guess its hard to complain about the 13.8 ppg.

Of course everyone who doesn't have a big power forward wants one. So trades are always a challenge. It will be interesting to see what happens after the all-star break.
Mel

United States

#15 Dec 23, 2008
Is that really what the Bulls want to do? The all offense weak D approach. Didn't Phoenix just bust up that approach. Exciting yes, but it never got them anywhere. Ben Gordon should be an all-star in such a system. Trying to outscore Boston, Cleveland, Atlanta and L.A. will put the Bulls as a novelty team. The Bulls will get their 40-50 wins but really won't be taken seriously come playoff time.
Tiffany

United States

#16 Dec 23, 2008
the bulls have madd scoring threats
Nada Surf

Mesa, AZ

#17 Dec 23, 2008
Wesley Unsel wrote:
<quoted text>So, let me get this straight .... less is actually more ....that statement may have validity in some circumstances but not here ... they're not that deep of a team; don't kid yourself. Nellie's team of a few years back had a cast of characters and role players and largely played small ball too and surprised the league, but he had a starting lineup and maybe 2 or 3 key guys coming off the bench. You subtract Hinrich, Gooden, Gordon and Hughes off the Bulls and you're down to a nucleus and maybe a few protons...it won't get the job done.
Exactly what job are you shooting for this season? Is this team going to win a title? If it makes the playoffs, how far will it go?
This is a wasted season. If the Un-Watcha-Bulls continue to play Gooden, Gordon and Hughes, they are taking time away from players that can help them next season.
Nada Surf

Mesa, AZ

#18 Dec 23, 2008
Tiffany wrote:
nada,why you like seeing dudes get injured?that is not a good look
I want minor injuries to these guys. I used to cover the NBA. Many of these players are ALSO hoping to be injured since most of them take no pride in what they do and are collecting a paycheck out there during the regular season. Isn't it obvious? Check to see if they bend their knees on defense next time you watch a game.
Nada Surf

Mesa, AZ

#19 Dec 23, 2008
Just Steve wrote:
Nada -- so you must not be a Bulls fan?
Gordon, as much as I'm not a big fan, has been a strong offensive threat this season so far, and has been a great support for Rose. And Hughes has taken on the third guard/small forward role with enthusiasm. Deng is the player, with all of his salary, that has completely disappeared this season. I'm not sure what he's doing on the court now. He's not playing great defense, he doesn't seem interested in regularly attacking the rim. He seems lost out there.
I'm glad to see Thabo on the court more, and its good to seem Thomas playing better. I keep hoping that Noah will become more consistent, but at least he doesn't look like he's running out of steam as quickly any more.
This team is still in desparate need of a big body power forward presence. Somebody who takes a double team to cover. Then the Gooden/Noah/Gray center combo works. Deng doesn't seem like he's ever going to be what we hoped for, though I guess its hard to complain about the 13.8 ppg.
Of course everyone who doesn't have a big power forward wants one. So trades are always a challenge. It will be interesting to see what happens after the all-star break.
I've been a Bulls fan since their inception. Why? I don't know. I guess it's cuz I used to live in Chicago...
A true Bulls fan should be pulling for them to lose NOW so that they will break up this team of selfish players and move onto a new unit. This Un-Watcha-Bull team is a pretender to make the playoffs loaded with creatures that won't be here next season. Reinsdorf is too smart to allow this to continue...
Gordon HURTS Rose by demanding the ball too often. Rose should be running this team with Sefalosha next to him.
Gooden HURTS this team by taking playing time away from Thomas.
Hughes is such a poor team player that if you put him on the Boston Celtics right now, they wouldn't make the playoffs.
Nada Surf

Mesa, AZ

#20 Dec 23, 2008
Tiffany wrote:
the bulls have madd scoring threats
I agree. Mothers Against Drunk Driving would give this year's team a good game.

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