Greek team offers 2-year deal to Knic...

Greek team offers 2-year deal to Knicks' Robinson

There are 22 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 14, 2009, titled Greek team offers 2-year deal to Knicks' Robinson. In it, Newsday reports that:

Nate Robinson may be getting a big fat Greek payday. Newsday has learned that Olympiakos, the Athens-based team that last summer lured Josh Childress away from the NBA , has offered the Knicks ' 5-9 guard a two-year contract.

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LIAM

Casselberry, FL

#1 Jul 14, 2009
Best of luck Nate!

Since: Jul 09

Coney Island

#2 Jul 14, 2009
Take care nate!!!!
Dino

Ridgewood, NY

#3 Jul 14, 2009
Funny thing is, Olympiakos, is my longtime greek team. Knicks always come number 1 to me (although not for my family in general)

It would probably work better for the knicks if he does go there
Long Time Knicks Fan

Bloomfield, NJ

#6 Jul 15, 2009
They can have Nate. He's not the type of player that will ever be part of a championship team.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#7 Jul 15, 2009
It appears the consensus on this thread to this point is unamimous...
dimitris olympiakos4ever

Athens, Greece

#8 Jul 15, 2009
i want nate robinson to olympiakos!he's a very good player!!
mcf

New York, NY

#9 Jul 15, 2009
This is getting messy, we dont need a one yr fix,. give that money to nate/lee or save it. we have toney nate and larry, toney can backup duhon for now, nate can backup larry, we are straight. we arent going to win a chip this yr anyway. sit tight. next year go sign a real pg or just sign sessions. Lee and hill....hardworkers.
Enri

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Jul 15, 2009
Are you guys crazy....there is no way Nate would go there!
1. Last year he was the 2nd best player on the knicks.
2.He would have to live in Greece away from all his friends and would have to be a foreigner...he has kids and would have to htink about his families situation.
3. Players go international when they have no other options for the most part.
4. Nate can still find a very good nba team that will take him for 5mil+ per season when he is an unrestricted free-agent.
5. To the idioot that said nate can never be part of a championship team....well thats just it yoyu are an idiot.

I LEVEL

Since: Nov 08

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#11 Jul 15, 2009
The Knicks need to sign both Nate and D. Lee that's a no brainer.
The league's second best rebounder who hustles night in and night out as well as a double double type player and Nate who gives scoring off the bench and was one of the league's most productive players coming off the bench.
Walsh needs to sign them both at reasonable rates given what the current economy is and continue building the team into a playoff contender the right way, no quick fixes there was too much of that going on by the previous regime.
Honest Citizen

New Hyde Park, NY

#12 Jul 15, 2009
Some of these whackjob Knick fans make me laugh.. Real Knick and basketball fans know the real value of Nate and David.
NJim

United States

#13 Jul 15, 2009
Keep Nate Robinson. Keep David Lee. End of discussion.
joe vacca

Osprey, FL

#14 Jul 15, 2009
good luck Nate, watch your back.
nycsobe

Miami Beach, FL

#15 Jul 17, 2009
lets see what robinson's agent is made of. will he let nate get the short term pay day? if so, he better enjoy it becaue it will be the last. robinson's self-indulgent behavior, unchecked and crowd pleasing in Greece, will be beyond repair in two years. he will truly become the sideshow that larry brown speculated. he should really stay in nyc and keep getting mentored by d'antoni. he could have a great, great career someday

Since: Jan 07

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#16 Jul 18, 2009
Lee should not accept less money to stay. Like ex-Knick Ariza, Lee will be a perfect complement to a contending team. Something under the Walsh/Danton regime the Knicks will not become for another 5 years. These Knicks don't beat Boston until Garnett retires or is hurt again and now the Celts have retooled, as has Toronto and Cavs. Lee played hard every night,(most times one of the few) and his reward is to be told that he is not part of the Galinari/Chandler future..

I repeat, other than not being Isiah, what has Walsh and the great Da'Anton really accomplished so far? Galinari?- blow up playoff team last year because "why bother for 7th or 8th seed and 1st round meeting with Boston" (ask Chicago) and get the 8th pick.

If Isiah gave up two twenty point scorers and NBA leading rebounder at the time )Crawford and Randolph) for what ended up being Hughes, Wilcox, Duhon and failed-physical Mobley I would think/hope the so-called NYC sports experts would be questioning these moves more.

stop the pipe dream hoping other teams stars to come and BUILD something. It starts with keeping your young players

I LEVEL

Since: Nov 08

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#17 Jul 19, 2009
Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
Lee should not accept less money to stay. Like ex-Knick Ariza, Lee will be a perfect complement to a contending team. Something under the Walsh/Danton regime the Knicks will not become for another 5 years. These Knicks don't beat Boston until Garnett retires or is hurt again and now the Celts have retooled, as has Toronto and Cavs. Lee played hard every night,(most times one of the few) and his reward is to be told that he is not part of the Galinari/Chandler future..
I repeat, other than not being Isiah, what has Walsh and the great Da'Anton really accomplished so far? Galinari?- blow up playoff team last year because "why bother for 7th or 8th seed and 1st round meeting with Boston" (ask Chicago) and get the 8th pick.
If Isiah gave up two twenty point scorers and NBA leading rebounder at the time )Crawford and Randolph) for what ended up being Hughes, Wilcox, Duhon and failed-physical Mobley I would think/hope the so-called NYC sports experts would be questioning these moves more.
stop the pipe dream hoping other teams stars to come and BUILD something. It starts with keeping your young players
I agree, Dolan is continuing to keep the Knicks as the league's laughing stock, selling the fans the dream of "2010"
It's not going to happen; D Wade is not leaving Miami, James is not leaving Cleveland, Bosh is not leaving Toronto, Stoudemire will be probaly be traded so Phoenix can get something for him rather than lose him to free agency.
The Dolans and MSG are blowing smoke up the behinds of the Knick fans and are under estimating their intelligence.
They would get more respect by building the team through the draft, re-sign their own free agents (D Lee and Nate) who are productive players.
Not do what they did in the past; take on bad contracts of unproductive players, other teams malcontents and garbage that they get stuck with or have to buy out.
It's been proven over and over that way does not work.
A rebuilding team with young players are going to have their share of growing pains along the way, but it's the long term results you look for not quick fixes that has proven to fail.
They will have the same type of season in '09-10 that they had last season and that's the reality.
The positive that comes out of that is the continued development of the team's young players.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#18 Jul 19, 2009
Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
Lee should not accept less money to stay. Like ex-Knick Ariza, Lee will be a perfect complement to a contending team. Something under the Walsh/D'Antoni regime the Knicks will not become for another 5 years. These Knicks don't beat Boston until Garnett retires or is hurt again and now the Celts have retooled, as has Toronto and Cavs. Lee played hard every night,(most times one of the few) and his reward is to be told that he is not part of the Galinari/Chandler future..
I agree with you that Lee is a complimentary player. No complimentary player makes 8 figures per season...

The team Isiah "assembled" was terribly flawed regarding matchups and styles. He made the trade for Marbury, which I agreed with. The only issue is Marbury is long gone and the Knicks don't have a 2010 1st. round pick because of it...

The Celtics have some good runs left in them as long as Garnett, Pierce, and Allen can stay healthy. The Raptors have retooled? How so? The Cavs traded an aging low post player that doesn't care to play any interior defense. They better pray that LeBron stays healthy as the offense goes through him...
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Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
I repeat, other than not being Isiah, what has Walsh and the great D'Antoni really accomplished so far? Gallinari?- blow up playoff team last year because "why bother for 7th or 8th seed and 1st round meeting with Boston" (ask Chicago) and get the 8th pick.
Blow up what playoff team? What do you expect Walsh/D'Antoni to accomplish in 1 season? Did you forget the Knicks won 9 more games last season than the prior season? They gave Wilson Chandler the chance to play and he rewarded them with solid, consistent play. Would Isiah given Chandler a chance to start? I doubt it. He would have started his Chi-Town HB Q-Rich until he couldn't shoot or move...
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Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
If Isiah gave up two twenty point scorers and NBA leading rebounder at the time (Crawford and Randolph) for what ended up being Hughes, Wilcox, Duhon and failed-physical Mobley I would think/hope the so-called NYC sports experts would be questioning these moves more.
The so-called NYC sports experts agree with the Knick plan by getting the salary cap relief needed to go after 2 prime FA's in 2010. Did those players make the Knicks better. Certain not by the 2007-2008 season record...

BTW, did the Warriors or the Clippers make the playoffs last season with those trades?...
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Drew Brown Bundini wrote:
Stop the pipe dream hoping other teams stars to come and BUILD something. It starts with keeping your young players
The Knicks are trying to build something. They rid themselves of the long contracts of Randolph, Crawford, and the ever infamous drunk and buffet eating expert Jerome James (another great Isiah signing). You have to rid the salaries that prove not to give the expected return in order to rebuild...
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#19 Jul 19, 2009
I LEVEL wrote:
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I agree, Dolan is continuing to keep the Knicks as the league's laughing stock, selling the fans the dream of "2010"
It's not going to happen; D Wade is not leaving Miami, James is not leaving Cleveland, Bosh is not leaving Toronto, Stoudemire will be probaly be traded so Phoenix can get something for him rather than lose him to free agency.
The Dolans and MSG are blowing smoke up the behinds of the Knick fans and are under estimating their intelligence.
They would get more respect by building the team through the draft, re-sign their own free agents (D Lee and Nate) who are productive players.
Not do what they did in the past; take on bad contracts of unproductive players, other teams malcontents and garbage that they get stuck with or have to buy out.
It's been proven over and over that way does not work.
A rebuilding team with young players are going to have their share of growing pains along the way, but it's the long term results you look for not quick fixes that has proven to fail.
They will have the same type of season in '09-10 that they had last season and that's the reality.
The positive that comes out of that is the continued development of the team's young players.
You, I, and everyone else don't know who will be traded in mid season or becoming a FA. Wade has made it known if Miami doesn't bring in 1 premium FA, he's gone with Chicago eagerly waiting as they have huge cap relief starting in 2010...

Bosh not leaving Toronto? Try reading the Toronto Globe & Mail. They all but have him ready to bolt. I do agree that James is most likely staying in Cleveland. The owner is willing to pay serious sums of money to bring in players...

I would sign Lee at fair market value, not $10 million per. He's a great player to compliment, not build a team around. Robinson isn't getting NBA interest to the point his agent went to Europe to get a somewhat quasi commitment from a Greek team. I say sign him to a 1 year qualifying offer and roll the dice...

I agree the Knicks need to build through the draft and sign solid contributors. The premium FA's are where teams separate themselves from the rest. That's what the Knicks are attempting to do...

Time will tell, though...

I LEVEL

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#20 Jul 19, 2009
NYStateOfMind wrote:
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You, I, and everyone else don't know who will be traded in mid season or becoming a FA. Wade has made it known if Miami doesn't bring in 1 premium FA, he's gone with Chicago eagerly waiting as they have huge cap relief starting in 2010...
Bosh not leaving Toronto? Try reading the Toronto Globe & Mail. They all but have him ready to bolt. I do agree that James is most likely staying in Cleveland. The owner is willing to pay serious sums of money to bring in players...
I would sign Lee at fair market value, not $10 million per. He's a great player to compliment, not build a team around. Robinson isn't getting NBA interest to the point his agent went to Europe to get a somewhat quasi commitment from a Greek team. I say sign him to a 1 year qualifying offer and roll the dice...
I agree the Knicks need to build through the draft and sign solid contributors. The premium FA's are where teams separate themselves from the rest. That's what the Knicks are attempting to do...
Time will tell, though...
As long as the team is owned by the Dolans are remains to be seen.
Isiah ran the team completely into the ground, they lack a 1st round draft pick for next year, they're gambling on the hope that a marquee free agent will come to NY in '10.
Ownership of the Knicks by the Dolans are a joke and it's a disgrace what they have done to a once proud franchise that developed a wining tradition after years of losing.
The Dolans have taken the Knicks back to the Knick teams of the early to late 60's where losing was common and accepted.
We can only hope as Knick fans that the atmosphere of losing will change.
I've been watching the Knicks Summer League team play out in Vegas, they're losing as well.
They've lost 4 games with one to go.
Jordan Hill and Toney Douglas look like they can be contributors off the bench, Morris Almond, a former draft pick in '07 of the Utah Jazz whom the Knicks have on their summer league roster looks like he'll be in camp, the rest are not that impressive at all.
With the Knicks, you can only hope for the best.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#21 Jul 19, 2009
I LEVEL wrote:
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As long as the team is owned by the Dolans are remains to be seen.
Isiah ran the team completely into the ground, they lack a 1st round draft pick for next year, they're gambling on the hope that a marquee free agent will come to NY in '10.
Ownership of the Knicks by the Dolans are a joke and it's a disgrace what they have done to a once proud franchise that developed a wining tradition after years of losing.
The Dolans have taken the Knicks back to the Knick teams of the early to late 60's where losing was common and accepted.
We can only hope as Knick fans that the atmosphere of losing will change.
I've been watching the Knicks Summer League team play out in Vegas, they're losing as well.
They've lost 4 games with one to go.
Jordan Hill and Toney Douglas look like they can be contributors off the bench, Morris Almond, a former draft pick in '07 of the Utah Jazz whom the Knicks have on their summer league roster looks like he'll be in camp, the rest are not that impressive at all.
With the Knicks, you can only hope for the best.
Certainly cannot refute those the (Dough Boy) Jimmy Dolan brought in to run the franchise, starting with former MSG President Steve Mills, who brought in Isiah...

For the obvious results with Isiah, Dolan to his credit, has left Donnie Walsh alone to do the work. He's brought respect and stability to a franchise that spent, spent, and spent some more...

Sure, time will tell what players end up with the Knicks in 2010. That said, Walsh has done more in 1 season to stabilize the franchise than Isiah did in 4+ seasons to dismember the franchise. He traded huge contracts that some said no one could have moved (Jerome James, Q-Rich, ZBo, Crawford) and took back expiring contracts...

Franchises aren't rebuilt in a season and the Knicks are no exception...

I LEVEL

Since: Nov 08

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#22 Jul 19, 2009
NYStateOfMind wrote:
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Certainly cannot refute those the (Dough Boy) Jimmy Dolan brought in to run the franchise, starting with former MSG President Steve Mills, who brought in Isiah...
For the obvious results with Isiah, Dolan to his credit, has left Donnie Walsh alone to do the work. He's brought respect and stability to a franchise that spent, spent, and spent some more...
Sure, time will tell what players end up with the Knicks in 2010. That said, Walsh has done more in 1 season to stabilize the franchise than Isiah did in 4+ seasons to dismember the franchise. He traded huge contracts that some said no one could have moved (Jerome James, Q-Rich, ZBo, Crawford) and took back expiring contracts...
Franchises aren't rebuilt in a season and the Knicks are no exception...
They've won 9 more games than the previous season and could have won more and made the playoffs if they were a better defensive team; a glaring weakness.
With the 9 more wins they are at least going in the right direction under Walsh.
Will they improve on that remains to be seen, at least they allowed Wilson Chandler to develop, Galinari remains a mystery since he was injured most of the season and played in only 28 games.
At this point things can only look up and get better for them.
Are they bringing back Al Harrington?

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