N.C. State Slips Past Villanova, 69-68

Nov 25, 2007 Full story: The Associated Press 7

Gavin Grant hit two of three free throws with 4 seconds left and North Carolina State beat No. 20 Villanova 69-68 to win the Old Spice Classic Championship on Sunday night.

Villanova (4-1) seemed to clinch the win when Dante Cunningham tipped in a missed layup with 2.2 seconds remaining, but Cunningham fouled Grant the next trip down.

He missed the first one, then drained the other two. Villanova threw a long inbound pass, but it bounced up and off the backboard as time expired.

Courtney Fells had 21 points for N.C. State (4-1), while J.J. Hickson and Grant each added 15. Read more

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PackFan

Simpsonville, SC

#1 Nov 26, 2007
As a Wolfpack fan, I admit that the last foul called on nova was questionable but I'm not that bothered by it because the first half officiating was atrocious and EVERYTHING went in nova's favor. So I don't argue with the nova fans that are upset with the call, I just want them to be realistic and look at the game as a whole. Nova played aggressive D, and as a fan I love to watch that intensity, but if the refs are going to call fouls on the one side, they should call it the same way on the other, something the zebras didn't do tonight. Anyway, yeah it was a bad call but be honest with yourselves nova fans, the game would have probably been a double digit victory for State had the refs not been so inept.
SpecialK

AOL

#2 Nov 26, 2007
First you "admit" the call was questionable, then finally, you admit it was a bad call. But you can't have any class and leave it that - you simply have to launch into some nonsense about a "double digit victory." Please. We both saw the game. Nova won on the court, the ref GAVE NC State the opportunity to win and they did. That is not NC State's fault...it is the refs fault. State didn't screw (or beat Nova) the ref did. It is that simple. It happens.

That's twice now I've seen refs take a victory from Nova and give it to a North Carolina team. Interesting to say the least.
SpecialK

AOL

#3 Nov 26, 2007
By the way, speaking of "no calls"...how about Dante Cunningham grabbing possesion of a ball...and a State player "jumps" onto his head driving it into the deck and cutting his scalp (Cunningham has the ball mind you), while another jumps onto his torso and grabs his arms and the ball - no foul, lets do a jump ball?

Furthermore, how about the end of game vs. George mason...inbounds pass to Reggie Reynolds..he cathes the ball and is literally slammed from behind and knocked out of bounds. No foul call - lets redo the inbounds!!!!

And then with .4 seconds...lets call a foul.

res ipsa loquitur
Halfonz

Fort Myers, FL

#4 Nov 26, 2007
One could argue the officiating was bad or the game was lost on the charity line, whatever, it was a good game. The big rub, when there are seconds remaining, and, the game is on the line, refs should let the game play out, exercising restraint in calling anything but an intentional foul. Years ago, Al McGuire made that observation, and it holds today. The call with nano seconds left was ridiculous.
packbacker

Jersey City, NJ

#5 Nov 26, 2007
Quit blaming the refs. It was a foul. End of story. Basketball 101 - don't hit the 3 point shooter on the arm when he is shooting. If the refs had not been calling the game in Villanova's favor it would not have ended up the way it did. Don't you remember the bogus foul call a few minutes earlier against NCSU that cut the lead from 5 to 1? Tired of losing to N.C. teams? Learn how to play (see Basketball 101 above). Nothing worse than a poor loser, except maybe a whiny Villanova coach. Guess you have plenty of both.
SpecialK

AOL

#6 Nov 27, 2007
NFL/NCAA Football 101 - replay used to preclude erroneous call by officials altering games outcome.
I'm not blaming the ref, I'm pointing out that he made the wrong call. Replay made that clear. Replay also made clear that the ref's travelling call vs. Alan Ray at end of game was also wrong call. If the NC State palyer makes the shot - they win, end of story - Basketball 101 - happens a lot. A call like either of the ones I mentioned do not - game changing intervention by ref, taking the outcome into hands of an official judgement subsequently shown to be wrong. Halfonz makes the right point.
Not tired of losing to N.C. teams. Without question, those teams are and have been superb for years. I recognize that as clearly as I recognize a BAD call. Simple as that. Admit the call was inappropriate and wrong. The truth shall set you free.
Steve S

Chicago Heights, IL

#7 Nov 29, 2007
Good call SpecialK. It is interesting that when Nova plays a Carolina team the ref hands them the game. I'm still reeling from the Carolina rip off win in the elite 8 a couple of years ago against Nova. That time is was a travel call seconds AFTER the ball went in -- with the game on the line!

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