Pacers miss shot at upset

The Indiana Pacers weren't supposed to have much of a chance. They walked into the US Airways Center as losers of seven of their past eight games, having to face the run-and-gun Phoenix Suns. Full Story
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DLC

Indianapolis, IN

#81 Jan 10, 2008
Reading the articles about the Pacers reminds of a movie- "GroundHog Day"
Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. Think about this quote for a second and ask yourself why keep watching the Pacers
disallusionedpac erfan

United States

#82 Jan 10, 2008
well,well,well,another typical Pacer loss. They tease us with the idea that we might actually win a game and then ccrumble in the 4th quarter. Once again Ill say it again. Can you imagine if we had traded JO for Bynum? Wow have you seen this guy, a true center and can get up and down the court. About Tinsely I knewe before the season when O'brien said he felt confident handing the ball and team over to him. Instead of drafting Mr. Williams we should have drafted a pg. Not that he wont eventually be a decent player but that wasnt a real need. My only hope now is that we can trade JO before the deadline, that of course is if anyone wants him.
oldady

United States

#83 Jan 10, 2008
DLC I for one keep watching the Pacers play ball, because I have faith that they will soon get their act together and start winning. With J.O. out they can do that very thing. They played a pretty good game last night. I don't understand why the O.T. was played the way it was, but it was and we can't keep looking back. We have to look forward and go on. Saturday night is another night. Tune in and watch what the Pacers can do. If J.O. is still out, they stand a great chance. Go Pacers! I am a TRUE FAN!
Stan

United States

#84 Jan 10, 2008
Phil Jackson was not about to trade Bynum for O'Neal. Oden maybe, or Walton or particularly Kwame Brown. But not Bynum. Jackson knows he needs Bynum to develop the way Pippin did with Jordan.
The Pacers had one dry spell when they blew the big lead in the third quarter, then they got something like a couple of free throws in the last 5 minutes. A lot of bad defense and missed three pointers not by Tinsley as much as the other guys. In the last minute or so Tinsley took and missed all the shots. He made a couple in overtime. Tinsley and O'Neal, whether he plays or is hurt, get most of the flack, but these are team losses.
Disgusted Pacer Fan

Cincinnati, OH

#85 Jan 10, 2008
Stan wrote:
Phil Jackson was not about to trade Bynum for O'Neal. Oden maybe, or Walton or particularly Kwame Brown. But not Bynum. Jackson knows he needs Bynum to develop the way Pippin did with Jordan.
The Pacers had one dry spell when they blew the big lead in the third quarter, then they got something like a couple of free throws in the last 5 minutes. A lot of bad defense and missed three pointers not by Tinsley as much as the other guys. In the last minute or so Tinsley took and missed all the shots. He made a couple in overtime. Tinsley and O'Neal, whether he plays or is hurt, get most of the flack, but these are team losses.
I'm sorry but it is not a "team" loss when your point guard, not shooting guard, but point guard, takes 14 out of 15 shots and the one he did not was a tip-in of one of his missed shots.

He made only 4 of these 14 in addition to the shots he took at the end of the game rather than dishing it out.

In my ever so humble opinion, he should not be shooting 26 shots in any game when he averages something like 30% to 35% AND his position of point guard insinuates that he is to get his teammates the ball in scoring position.

He does a poor job, most of the time, of getting his teammates into the flow of the game.

Inconsistency should be his middle name.
timkav69

Marysville, OH

#86 Jan 10, 2008
IPS graduates 52 percent wrote:
<quoted text>
And who exactly is going to get the Pacers to the foul line? Dunleavy? Murphy? Even Granger seems disinterested at going to the hoop at times. Face it, the Pacers are jump shooters and most of the time they don’t get fouled that much.
Oh, and they're the most foul prone team in the league because they are too slow on defense.
Unfortunately, there isn't a single Pacers player who gets to the line for 4 FTs per game. That includes any of the interior players. For all of his other qualities, JO shoots mostly turnaround fallaway jumpers. JT gets to the basket any time he wants, but doesn't seem to draw contact. The best bets are for Grainger and Dunleavy to take it upon themsleves to develop the ir ability to get to the basket. As I said earlier, another 4 points per game at the line means the difference between Ws and Ls foir this team.
As for the comments on defensive lack of speed, defense is primarily about position and effort. It takes effort to move your feet on the defensive end; the Pacers' foul problems seem to come from way too much dribble penetration by the opponents. DEFENSE = EFFORT.
Pacers are a joke

Cumberland, MD

#87 Jan 10, 2008
Indiana Tazers wrote:
<quoted text>why? Because he hasn't punched his ho? Or maybe shot up downtown? Assaulted a bar owner? busted for drugs? Yeah right...Dunleavy is an absolute embarrassment to the gang sta and thug example that IS your National Basketball association.
It is his play and athleticism that are ebmarrassing not his personal life.
zup 07

Vancouver, WA

#88 Jan 10, 2008
O'Brien has got to reign in JT. Not only did he take 10 of the 11 shots in OT, but he also took the majority in the last 2 min of regulation. He's not a bad PG, when he decides to get everyone involved. Plus, what the heck was that last shot? We gotta get rid of JO, now. We are obviously a better team without him. BTW, check out this rad pacers blog: www.pacerkingdom.blogspot.com , for all you ex naptowners out there.
come on

Pendleton, IN

#89 Jan 11, 2008
Pacers are a joke wrote:
<quoted text>It is his play and athleticism that are ebmarrassing not his personal life.
Ok, Then how about charging into the stands, running across the court and sucker punching a fan or possible the most embarrassing thing to date, accept a huge franchise crippling contract and be nothing but a bit player thats good for at best 50 games a year!
WGT

Spartanburg, SC

#90 Jan 11, 2008
come on wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, Then how about charging into the stands, running across the court and sucker punching a fan or possible the most embarrassing thing to date, accept a huge franchise crippling contract and be nothing but a bit player thats good for at best 50 games a year!
When did Dunleavy do this you tool?
WANNA BE PACER FAN

Carlisle, IN

#91 Jan 11, 2008
YOU MUST HAVE WATCHED A DIFFERENT GAME THAN THE REST OF US. TINSLEY WAS BALL-HOG ALL NIGHT. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, TINSLEY IS OVER-RATED AND THE ONLY REASON HE IS IN A PACERS UNIFORM IS BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TRADE HIM BECAUSE OF HIS TRACK RECORD AND HIM ALWAYS BEING HURT.
Tinsley_the_man wrote:
ok guys....the last 14 shots of the regulation period tinsley only took 3 of those shots....and for the remaining eleven he gave granger, murphy, dunleavy, and the other clown nothing but open looks from the three point line. They ALL missed their open shots. Now with the team missing open shots that I can hit if I had that much space...I am more than happy that tinsley understood the need to try and score.
jcnotime

Indianapolis, IN

#92 Jan 11, 2008
EXACTLY!
FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS.
HE IS THE REASON REGGIE DID NOT PLAY ANOTHER YEAR
HE IS THE REASON PEJA DID NOT WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER YEAR WITH US
HE IS THE REASON ARTEST WANTED OUT
HE WILL BE THE REASON GRANGER WILL WANT OUT IF HE REMAINS MUCH LONGER
HE IS THE REASON WE CONTINUE TO BE THE JOKE WE ARE.
AND EVEN MR OBVIOUS CAN SEE HOW BETTER WE PLAY (AS A TEAM)
WHEN THE (BOY WHO IS PLAYING IN A MANS GAME "ONEAL")IS OUT OF THE PICTURE
AND IF LARRY DOES NOT SEE THIS, HE IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT THAT HAS EVER BEEN IN BASKETBALL MANAGEMENT!
oldady wrote:
Even though we lost point wise we were WINNERS last night.
Those guys can play ball when Jermaine is NOT in the game.
They had a little cold spell, but every team does that. I personally was proud of the Indiana Pacers last night. I would have preferred the winning score be on our side, but it wasn't and that is too bad.
I don't understand why Jamaal was the only one taking shots in the overtime, but again he made most of them. I guess it just wasn't in the cards for us to win, but keep playing like that and we will be winners.
Jim O'Brien, Larry Bird, can you see now how much better they play when Jermaine isn't in to bog them down? Get rid of J.O. and watch us go.....Pacers hang in there for Saturday night. I don't wish J.O. any bad luck, but I hope he doesn't play again. What a difference!
Mike

Lafayette, IN

#93 Jan 11, 2008
Please turn your caps on to caps off. My ears are hurting.

I can read lowercase easier than uppercase.
come on

Pendleton, IN

#94 Jan 11, 2008
WGT wrote:
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When did Dunleavy do this you tool?
Sorry tool-let you'll need to go back and read the string. don't have time to explain the concept.
Joshua Fruth

United States

#95 Jan 11, 2008
Anyone who watched this game needs to understand, the Pacers organization needs to understand, Tinsley should never have the ball with the game on the line. He has a horrible shot and the Pacers would probably win more if he stopped trying to take over games and just facilitate like a point is suppose to do. He tries to do too much and it has been killing the team throughout the season. I'm not too impressed with the coaching staff either if they insist on letting someone who shot 8-26 the entire game take every shot, except Dunleavy's tip in, during overtime. That is extremely stupid on their part.
Mike

Cincinnati, OH

#96 Jan 11, 2008
I just saw on ESPN that Sacramento was shopping Artest and Bibby.

Anyone interested in a JO/Tinsley for Artest/Bibby trade?
Mardina

Carmel, IN

#97 Jan 12, 2008
Tinsley has repeatedly proven his character off the court. He continues to do the same on the court. His "its all about me" mentality needs to go! Jamaal in case you've forgotten, there's no "I" in "TEAM"!!!

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