Pacers miss shot at upset

Pacers miss shot at upset

There are 97 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 9, 2008, titled Pacers miss shot at upset. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The Indiana Pacers weren't supposed to have much of a chance. They walked into the US Airways Center as losers of seven of their past eight games, having to face the run-and-gun Phoenix Suns.

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Miamisburg, OH

#61 Jan 10, 2008
Stan wrote:
Which is more disappointing, playing a totally horrible game like in Utah or playing well for 2 /12 quarters and blowing yet another lead against the Suns, the 3rd game in a row that this happened? Particularly when Daniels is hurt and not playing, the Pacers have an enormous deficit in athleticism in a league based on going to the basket. Plus they do not have many players who can and will play defense. Every team can eventually create a mismatch and get around the Pacers for layups or followup dunks, and then kick out for threes. It's like the running game in football setting up the passing game. Shawne Williams provided a spark for the Pacers but once he went out they had nothing. The only player who can create a shot is Tinsley but he is a poor shooter and needs to create those shots for others, not himself. He missed several in late regulation when they had a chance to win. Unfortunately there is no one to create them for. They need to acquire more Daniels and less Murphys and Dieners. Admittedly the Pacers had a number of players hurt, but so did Phoenix. We expected a lot of losses on this road trip against the tough West teams, but this is a missed opportunity that they can't waste.
Daniels played in the OT?

Miamisburg, OH

#62 Jan 10, 2008
Whoops! It appeared that this did not work. Sorry for posting three times.
IPS graduates 52 percent

West Manchester, OH

#63 Jan 10, 2008
Rick M wrote:
<quoted text>
Just got off the phone with Michael Smith out of Boston, Reggie Miller and Stephen Smith of TNT.
All three indicated that it might be in your best interest to put the crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard.
Your "source" of Stephen A. Smith disqualifies you from any discussion regarding NBA basketball.
Come ON

Duncan, OK

#64 Jan 10, 2008
trade JO now wrote:
<quoted text>
dunleavy is having a great year. his stats are excellent.
Dunleavy is an embarrassment to Pro Basketball...
Come ON

Duncan, OK

#65 Jan 10, 2008
PACERS miss shot at an upset? PACERS ARE AN UPSET...
IPS graduates 52 percent

West Manchester, OH

#66 Jan 10, 2008
timkav69 wrote:
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BOTTOM LINE: The Pacres need to get to the line about 30 times per game. Nearly all of the most successful teams do.
And who exactly is going to get the Pacers to the foul line? Dunleavy? Murphy? Even Granger seems disinterested at going to the hoop at times. Face it, the Pacers are jump shooters and most of the time they donít get fouled that much.

Oh, and they're the most foul prone team in the league because they are too slow on defense.
Sad But True

Indianapolis, IN

#67 Jan 10, 2008
Well, I hate to admit to it again....
I watched the whole game and was entertained because of the fast up tempo. That we havent seen in a while because of JO being on the floor. I still support JO, BUT I support the Pacers and I will also like to see a trade involving JO and I will still be a JO fan. When I saw the starting line up last night I knew it was going to be an entertaining game. Hey, they almost beat the best team in the west. Note to OBrien, go small ball more often and see your system will workout much better than having JO in the flow all the time.

Louisville, KY

#68 Jan 10, 2008
What I don't for the life of all that is good understand is why Jamal was allowed to shoot 26 times while Dunleavy, who was having a solid shooting night, was only allowed 9 shots?

I'm totally disgusted in Coach O'Brien's judgment in the last 3 games. Granger, Dunleavy, and Shawne was shooting well but from the last 56 seconds on none of them were even looked at by Tinsley. After Jamal shot the ball 4 straight times without even attempting to look to pass early in the overtime I was praying for Andre Owens to be put into the game.

Tinsley should never, ever, be allowed to shoot 26 times in one game - especially since his shot was off all game long and when he has good shooters on the floor with him.
laker fan

Edmonton, Canada

#69 Jan 10, 2008
paul wrote:
Without Tinsley this team would win less than ten games in an 82 game season! Of course they will only have about twenty-five anyway at season's end. He certainly tried to do too much in overtime and hurt the team by not hustling back in transition defense. The joke of this evening was the NBA officiating. It's sickening how some of the calls went in the 4th quarter. I have always liked Jermaine, but it has to be obvious to management that they move the ball and play better without him. He is past his prime. Trade him and give him a new start, which will probably rejuvinate his career and help us move on. I wish someone would figure out how to get this team to play with that type of effort every game. But then again, the NBA refs would drain the energy right out of them!!! They're horrible. Fixed? Maybe......
The way Foster got ripped off when Amare travelled and drew his 6th foul on him was unbelievable...that cost the game right there and then! Events like these make me wish the NBA had replays....
laker fan

Edmonton, Canada

#70 Jan 10, 2008
and Tinsley pass the flipping ball to your wide open homeboys ...c'mon dude, you are suppose to be playing the point! I would of liked to see him kick it out to someone on the outside when he attacks the basket...
laker fan

Edmonton, Canada

#71 Jan 10, 2008
oh yeah you guys play much better with Balsa wood on the bench...he slows you guys down way too much.
Indiana Tazers

Indianapolis, IN

#72 Jan 10, 2008
Come ON wrote:
<quoted text> Dunleavy is an embarrassment to Pro Basketball...
why? Because he hasn't punched his ho? Or maybe shot up downtown? Assaulted a bar owner? busted for drugs? Yeah right...Dunleavy is an absolute embarrassment to the gang sta and thug example that IS your National Basketball association.
laker fan

Edmonton, Canada

#73 Jan 10, 2008
O'Brien should of bitch slapped Tinsley during a time out and told him to pass the ball.....but I could tell everyone on the team needed this win and even I felt the pain when they didn't get it...dang these kind of losses hurt Laker fans when Phoenix flukes out a win.
bill night

Walnut Creek, CA

#74 Jan 10, 2008
The offensive scheme and Tinsley's ballhogging shoogting and lack of coaching game plan was an unprofessional disaster. Tinsley had the ball and took every attempted shot in the overtime. There is simply no game plan-just let Tinsely shoot when he wants which was always and he is one of the worst perimiters shooters.
The Suns quickly figured it out. The coaching staff should be disciplined for their game plan which on offense was zilch. It looked like street ball


#75 Jan 10, 2008
Letting Tensley shoot the ball is a bad idea.

Anadarko, OK

#76 Jan 10, 2008
Pete Mason

Indianapolis, IN

#77 Jan 10, 2008
What did Tinsley think he was doing in OT?? Repeatedly going one-on-one w/ at 6foot-7inch guy with great defensive skills, who averages almost 2 steals AND 2 blocks a game??? Involving the TEAM that had been raining 3's earlier in the game might have helped .... but overall, a VERY entertaining game. it just sucked knowing what was going to happen when the suns started chipping away at the lead

Memphis, TN

#78 Jan 10, 2008
How can coach O'Brian allow Tinsley to "take over" when it's obvious he can't hit a jump shot unlike Dunleavy or Granger? Tinsley is the most selfish player I have ever seen. Any other point guard would try and maintain the flow that was established in the previous 3.75 quarters. Tinsley, the "one man show" is losing games for Indiana, if I were a player I'd say something to the coach.
Joe in Accounting

Fort Wayne, IN

#79 Jan 10, 2008
Great thing about the internet. The info is out there. Here's the play by play. Tinsley shoots ten times hits four of them. Dunleavy scores on a tip. We needed the team ball.

(5:00) Jump Ball Stoudemire vs Foster
Williams Turnover:Traveling (2 TO) 4:45
4:30 Stoudemire Jump Shot: Missed Block: Foster (1 BLK)
4:30 Stoudemire Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
4:30 Stoudemire Turnover:Step Out of Bounds Turnover (3 TO)
Tinsley Turnaround Bank shot: Made (13 PTS) 4:20
[IND 114-112]
[PHX 114-114] Stoudemire Layup Shot: Made (20 PTS)
Assist: Marion (4 AST)
Tinsley Jump Shot: Made (15 PTS) 3:49
[IND 116-114]
3:31 Marion Running Jump Shot: Missed
Tinsley Rebound (Off:2 Def:2) 3:28
Tinsley 3pt Shot: Missed 3:18
3:17 Bell Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
[PHX 116-116] Barbosa Jump Shot: Made (27 PTS)
Tinsley 3pt Shot: Missed 2:42
Dunleavy Tip Shot: Made (14 PTS) 2:40
[IND 118-116]
Dunleavy Rebound (Off:3 Def:4) 2:40
[PHX 119-118] Bell 3pt Shot: Made (22 PTS)
Assist: Barbosa (5 AST)
Tinsley Jump Shot: Missed 2:17
2:16 Stoudemire Rebound (Off:2 Def:8)
2:00 Bell 3pt Shot: Missed
Foster Rebound (Off:4 Def:7) 1:59
Tinsley Driving Layup Shot: Made (17 PTS) 1:53
[IND 120-119]
Williams Foul:Personal (6 PF) 1:41
Williams Substitution replaced by Daniels 1:41
[PHX 122-120] Bell 3pt Shot: Made (25 PTS)
Assist: Diaw (7 AST)
Tinsley Layup Shot: Missed 1:21
1:20 Stoudemire Rebound (Off:2 Def:9)
Tinsley Foul:Personal (3 PF) 1:18
1:18 Stoudemire Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
1:18 Team Rebound
[PHX 123-120] Stoudemire Free Throw 2 of 2 (21 PTS)
Team Timeout:Regular 1:18
Tinsley Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) 1:11
[IND 122-123]
Foster Foul:Shooting (6 PF) 0:56
Foster Substitution replaced by Murphy 0:56
[PHX 124-122] Stoudemire Free Throw 1 of 2 (22 PTS)
[PHX 125-122] Stoudemire Free Throw 2 of 2 (23 PTS)
Team Timeout:Short 0:56
Tinsley Jump Shot: Missed 0:47
0:46 Diaw Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
0:26 Barbosa Jump Shot: Missed Block: Tinsley (2 BLK)
0:25 Team Rebound
0:25 Team Timeout:Short
Murphy Foul:Shooting (3 PF) 0:24
[PHX 126-122] Stoudemire Free Throw 1 of 2 (24 PTS)
[PHX 127-122] Stoudemire Free Throw 2 of 2 (25 PTS)
Team Timeout:Short 0:24
Tinsley Layup Shot: Missed 0:18
0:17 Diaw Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
Granger Foul:Personal (3 PF) 0:14
[PHX 128-122] Bell Free Throw 1 of 2 (26 PTS)
[PHX 129-122] Bell Free Throw 2 of 2 (27 PTS)
Dunleavy Turnover:Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal:Marion (1 ST) 0:06
Joe in Accounting

Fort Wayne, IN

#80 Jan 10, 2008
Tinsley_the_man wrote:
ok guys....the last 14 shots of the regulation period tinsley only took 3 of those shots....and for the remaining eleven he gave granger, murphy, dunleavy, and the other clown nothing but open looks from the three point line. They ALL missed their open shots. Now with the team missing open shots that I can hit if I had that much space...I am more than happy that tinsley understood the need to try and score.
Tinsley took and missed four shots in the final 3 minutes of regulation. go to and look at the play-by-play.(He also missed a FT with 2 mins to go.)

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