Pacers start Western swing with loss

Pacers start Western swing with loss

There are 53 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 7, 2008, titled Pacers start Western swing with loss. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The start seemed promising for the Indiana Pacers against the Los Angeles Lakers.

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JUSTME

Independence, KY

#22 Jan 7, 2008
N.B.A.= N-othing B-ut A-trocious!
Corporate Greed

Fishers, IN

#23 Jan 7, 2008
The Pacers can't seem to see what others see---Jermaine is done.
oldady

United States

#25 Jan 7, 2008
UGH wrote:
PACERS SUCK CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
BIRD SUCKS AS A GM CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
UGH Suck a lemon...clap clap..oooh
James

Greencastle, IN

#26 Jan 7, 2008
I only watched the first half last night. The game started too late. I thought our guys played hard. We were only down 2 points or so at the half. The article sounds like the Lakers really poured it on us in the third quarter. The disparity in the free throws (almost every game) comes from the fact that we are a jump shooting team. You draw fouls when you take the ball to the basket, not when you shoot 18+ foot jump shots. That stat will not change until we get some players that are not afraid to "take it to the hole" (or a coach that requires it).
Lakers Sweep

United States

#27 Jan 7, 2008
I'm just glad we didn't make the trade, JO would probably do better on another team with a different set. I think your stuck with him, he's damaged goods and no one wants to take on 19 mil a year for the numbers he's putting up.....sure opt out JO.....now that's funny
Dungy ball

Cincinnati, OH

#28 Jan 7, 2008
James wrote:
The disparity in the free throws (almost every game) comes from the fact that we are a jump shooting team. You draw fouls when you take the ball to the basket, not when you shoot 18+ foot jump shots. That stat will not change until we get some players that are not afraid to "take it to the hole" (or a coach that requires it).
James, I agree with your point. However, surprisingly the Pacers were taking it to the hole last night. More so than any game I can recall this year. They just weren't getting any calls. AND...they missed at least 10 lay-ups. Several times they were fouled with no call but there were a handful where they just missed. You can't miss bunnies in the NBA....you just can't.

On the other end the whistle would blow automatically...many times with the referree out of position and just anticipating a foul where there actually wasn't one...and others where Kobe would just run into a Pacer to get to the line.
laker fan

Edmonton, Canada

#30 Jan 7, 2008
MPMike wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot. This isn't about race it's about talent, fool!!
By the way, are you black? because that's what race I am and I don't see just color I see people for who they are worth.
I wish we had more nba fans who think this way and mr playa...shut the **** up you racist pig.
JBT

United States

#31 Jan 7, 2008
The Pacers are right were I thought they would be at this stage of the season.I agree with alot of the criticism aimed toward J.O.Long time Pacer fans have seen exactly what he's capable of producing and unfortunatly,it's not that much.The hard facts are that this team is not going move any current players and we are going stay with who we,ve got.A 500% season and a quick exit from the playoffs look like what the doctor has ordered for the blue and gold.I look at the glass being half full because next year J.O will be wearing a different uniform .
supercolts

Chicago, IL

#32 Jan 7, 2008
I have never watched a team with less inspiration...The Pacers need to trade JO!!! He is the most overpaid player in the league. The Pacers dont care and it shows...I had to turn the game off last night cause how can I care when the players dont even care
laker fan

Edmonton, Canada

#33 Jan 7, 2008
JO opting out of his 19 million dollar per year contract this summer...yeah right...when pigs fly! that balsa wood is so fragile he will not last a complete seasion without a major injury...and to think you guys could of had Bynum but were too greedy and wanted Lamar as well...Larry you need to retire and go back to French Lick and stop trying to make stupid trades...i do not know who is worse Kevin McHale or Larry Bird as general manager...I guess Danny Ainge didn't want O'Neal otherwise you could be as bad as the Timberwolves...
b-man from LA

United States

#34 Jan 7, 2008
Whoah. Lots of Pacer hating on this board. I'm no fan of Bird from the Celtic-Laker days, but man, y'all are harsh. You lost the game cause someone didn't read the scouting report on Bynum - or players didn't listen.
Wayne

United States

#35 Jan 7, 2008
What a thoughtful, educated comment. Thanks so much for your input. Seriously, get a life!
PLAYA wrote:
To all you slackjaws, Pacers will lose until Bird is gone. You never trade a black guy for a white guy!
b-man from LA

United States

#36 Jan 7, 2008
lot's of racism on this page, too. (note to self: never move to Indiana)
Mobley

AOL

#37 Jan 7, 2008
b-man from LA wrote:
lot's of racism on this page, too.(note to self: never move to Indiana)
Indiana folk thrive on hating... whether it's color, religion or politics. Nothing like mindless bigotry for a lot of them.

The radio babblers, like the deplorable Garrison, are filled with contempt for anyone who won't hate the same way they hate.

Then there are those who just can't wait for a Pacers or NBA story to appear so they can make comments about "thugs" which is what they use since the N-word would get their trash deleted.

These are the same people who after they have used "thug" fifty jillion times get all upset if anyone points out how racism exists.

There are a lot of people in Indiana foolishly trying to make up for their own shortcomings by hating others. In some guy's cases it seems their shortcomings are probably extreme by looking at their overcompensating hate.
Flyer

Greenfield, IN

#38 Jan 7, 2008
RichardSmits wrote:
The NBA is a fixed sham and it's why no on watches it.
Might as well watch professional wrestling.
You have that right, this league is looking more like the WWF every day. The ref's stink. Even when the game stops for a foul they sleldom make the right call. If you had an extra ref in the booth he could look at it and instantly override the guy on the floor that didn't see it.

The players know it too, they know where the ref's are and know if they can get away with holding and fouling...last night JO got held and then got called for the foul when he shook off the defender that was holding him... What a bunch of BS...

How many times during a game do we hear "that was a tough call"... If the anouncers weren't being paid by the team they would be calling it what it is, a BAD CALL....

On the other side of the coin, why do you think the Pacers are fouling so much...

It's because they are getting beaten on defense and they are fouling just to try to make the other team earn it at the line. If the defense was better they wouldn't have to foul. If they stopped fouling during defensive breakdowns, the other teams would just be running up the score on easy baskets.... It's the defense that is sad here, which combined with no ball movement, no point guard (even when Tinsley is here we don't have much of a point guard), no assists, and a flat footed "watch the guy with the ball" game that they have fallen back into is why they stink....
Rik Smits

Simpsonville, SC

#39 Jan 7, 2008
What were dey sinking about?
Jacko for MVP

Indianapolis, IN

#40 Jan 7, 2008
tank the season. lets go after Gordon.
Ryguy1277

Austin, TX

#41 Jan 7, 2008
The truely elite team took home a W last night- the Lakers.

This is just a preview to the kind of destruction that my L.A. boys are going to do to the rest of the league.
Dungy ball

Cincinnati, OH

#42 Jan 7, 2008
Hey Flyer, Tinsley is 5th in the league in assists/game at 8.7/game. He's 2nd in the East. He has been playing at a very high level for most of the year. Although he has had some bad games (mostly defensively). Nevertheless he's a very important piece to the Pacers success.
Corporate Greed

Fishers, IN

#43 Jan 7, 2008
Mobley wrote:
<quoted text>
Indiana folk thrive on hating... whether it's color, religion or politics. Nothing like mindless bigotry for a lot of them.
The radio babblers, like the deplorable Garrison, are filled with contempt for anyone who won't hate the same way they hate.
Then there are those who just can't wait for a Pacers or NBA story to appear so they can make comments about "thugs" which is what they use since the N-word would get their trash deleted.
These are the same people who after they have used "thug" fifty jillion times get all upset if anyone points out how racism exists.
There are a lot of people in Indiana foolishly trying to make up for their own shortcomings by hating others. In some guy's cases it seems their shortcomings are probably extreme by looking at their overcompensating hate.
Now that is a thoughtful commmentary--and right on the money!

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