Armstrong says Imus should be fired

Armstrong says Imus should be fired

There are 39 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Apr 10, 2007, titled Armstrong says Imus should be fired. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Add Indiana Pacers guard Darrell Armstrong to the growing number of people disturbed by radio personality Don Imus ' comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

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lexingtonporter

Ashburn, VA

#1 Apr 11, 2007
Just kinda wondering if Armstrong finds the same comments made nearly daily on Springer, Judge Judy and the rest of the morning trash TV programs just as offensive? I am no defender of Imus but it has been said a thousand times before on national tv. If it is offensive and deserving of someone getting fired when that moron says it what about the rest Darrell?
sealionindy

United States

#2 Apr 11, 2007
I was on Radio in New York 30 years ago and Imus is the same then as now.
Only difference is 30 years. Armstrong needs to stick to what he knows...(basketball) and concentrate on making the playoffs and next season.

JMP

“Here for my "Two Minutes Hate"”

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis, Indiana

#3 Apr 11, 2007
I wonder if Armstrong feels this way about his thug teammates? Oh wait, all they have done is wreak havoc on this city—not to mention suck at basketball. Imus said one of hose "some things you just don't say." Imus is a jerk, but Armstrong needs to go into Probation Officer Donnie Walsh's office and take the plank out of his own eye before worrying about what some idiot says on the radio.

JMP

“Here for my "Two Minutes Hate"”

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis, Indiana

#4 Apr 11, 2007
Sorry, I found a typo in my first post. It was unintentional, but kind of appropriate, I guess.

I wonder if Armstrong feels this way about his thug teammates? Oh wait, all they have done is wreak havoc on this city—not to mention suck at basketball. Imus said one of those "things you just don't say." Imus is a jerk, but Armstrong needs to go into Probation Officer Donnie Walsh's office and take the plank out of his own eye before worrying about what some idiot says on the radio.
JOE

Fort Myers, FL

#5 Apr 11, 2007
What Imus said was not right, but "RAP" songs repeat the same message, so where are all the people who are coming out protesting Imus's comments doing about the words "RAP" songs?
Confused

Newport, KY

#6 Apr 11, 2007
I don't understand this. People call players in the NBA thugs all the time. Players talk about being pimps with hos. What is the big deal?!?!
wrlocke

United States

#8 Apr 11, 2007
Mr. Don Imus aired words about female Americans of African descent who play basketball on the Rutgers Women’s Basketball team that have been said for years by male Americans of African descent about female Americans of African descent. I may not agree with Mr. Imus, but I do stand behind his Constitutional Right to repeat, wherever and whenever, what he has heard from male Americans of African descent about female Americans of African descent. So what’s new about Ann Nicole Smith’s continuing saga and who on the A-List has done something worth printing about in the newspaper?
sara

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Apr 11, 2007
Imus is an arrogant jerk but he didn't say anything that they don't say over and over again in rap songs. Why is it offensive when a white person says it? I am sure there will be a lawsuit because this has probably "scarred" these women for life. What about the white duke lacrosse players that were arrested and practically convicted by the black HO that falsely accused them of rape? Their lives have been completely changed by that. Most people know that what he said was completely inappropriate, so fire him, but step up the bar for everyone else too.
Michael Crichton

Dayton, OH

#10 Apr 11, 2007
Everybody talks sh*t about other people when they are in an environment that's condusive to do so. There is no such thing as a perfect life. I'll bet that everyone of those "Nappy Headed Hoes" have a sh*t load of Rap CD's that go on and on about the very thing that everyone is bitc*ing about. Would somebody please name the Church's that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton head. I ask because nobody ever sees them @ church. They are always busy scaring up publicity for themselves. You never hear them raising hell about all of the sh*t that comes out of Rapper's mouths. I also think it's funny that Don Imus is finally getting some of his own medicine for a change. Doesn't like it, does he ? Peace Out.

Since: Jan 07

Bloomington, IN

#11 Apr 11, 2007
JMP wrote:
I wonder if Armstrong feels this way about his thug teammates? Oh wait, all they have done is wreak havoc on this city—not to mention suck at basketball. Imus said one of hose "some things you just don't say." Imus is a jerk, but Armstrong needs to go into Probation Officer Donnie Walsh's office and take the plank out of his own eye before worrying about what some idiot says on the radio.
Please tell me who all are "Thugs" on this team. JO, Foster, Granger? Dunleavey? Yup, team full of thugs. Each and every one of them.

How retarted
rick

Delaware, OH

#12 Apr 11, 2007
If Darrell feels so strongly about Don Imus comments and lack of character, why does he have a double standard when it comes to his team mates. If Don imus should be fired so should the Pacers.
Dr Q

Las Cruces, NM

#13 Apr 11, 2007
I guess if I were a Pacer, I'd be watching the Don Imus Show instead of ESPN highlights too!

JTT

Since: Dec 06

United States

#14 Apr 11, 2007
BC Realtor wrote:
<quoted text>
Please tell me who all are "Thugs" on this team. JO, Foster, Granger? Dunleavey? Yup, team full of thugs. Each and every one of them.
How retarted
The thugs would be Tinsley and Daniels. The poster probably thought most readers would figure that one out.
By the way, it's "retarded" - not retarted.
MarkL

Chesterfield, MO

#15 Apr 11, 2007
lexingtonporter wrote:
Just kinda wondering if Armstrong finds the same comments made nearly daily on Springer, Judge Judy and the rest of the morning trash TV programs just as offensive? I am no defender of Imus but it has been said a thousand times before on national tv. If it is offensive and deserving of someone getting fired when that moron says it what about the rest Darrell?
Those things might be said on Springer, but Springer does not say them.

IMUS SAID IT.

The fact that he did, shows him not only racist and masogonistic, but an idiot as well. He is irresponsable as a journalist, and anybody who thinks that he has a right to call any woman a "Nappy-Headed Ho" should be banished from their broadcast job too!

You got to give it to this guy, when he crosses the line, he crosses it bigtime.

Somewhere, Howard Stern is having a ball!
James M

United States

#16 Apr 11, 2007
People need to grow a thicker skin and worry about things that need to be worried about. They are just words, uttered by somebody with a microphone.....who cares?
MarkL

Chesterfield, MO

#17 Apr 11, 2007
Here's the problem Crighton...

In rap songs and videos, WHAT artist singles out black women as HOES?

Go ahead and think about that for a second...

The answer is NOBODY. I repeat, NOBODY.

I have never heard Snoop, Nelly use the word black when discribing any HO in their songs. I have seen dozens of videos of these artists usings black, white, hispanic and asian women. When they say it, they mean ALL woman. Not to justify what they say, but understand that the reality is that no rap artist singles out a particular race when it comes to the word HO.

Back to Mr. Imus...

He pointed out a SPECIFIC group of women. He used the term "NAPPY." Nappy being a word used to denote the kink of a person's hair being of African decent.
When you again as a JOURNALIST denote a racist stereotype to castigate a group of people, you should be called on it.

Two "journalists" of African-American decent were fired within the last year. Harold Reynolds and Michael Irvin formerly of ESPN. Reynolds for sexually harrassing a assistant director on his show, Irvin for making the following comment - "Tony Romo has got to have some brother in him somewhere."

They were fired man, fired.

Wanna take bets on if they will ever have broadcast jobs again?

On the other hand, let's look at Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilly. Two guys who are working right now. Rush you allready know about, from the drug scandal, to the ESPN remarks that got him fired, etc.. O'Reilly settled out of court on a suit that a FOX co-worker made against him. FOX did not fire him, did not repremand him, did not squat. He's still on the air like nothing ever happened.

Seems like white guys in journalism get the chance live again after making racist statements, and harassing the fairer sex, but blacks don't. It also seems that they get a pass when it comes to the public at-large.

Well they should not, and if Darrell Armstrong wishes to make a statement about it, he can do it without having having to pontificate on what his teammates do socially. His teammates do not call black women basketball players "HO's" in a public forum.

At least we agree about Imus.
MarkL

Chesterfield, MO

#18 Apr 11, 2007
sealionindy wrote:
I was on Radio in New York 30 years ago and Imus is the same then as now.
Only difference is 30 years. Armstrong needs to stick to what he knows...(basketball) and concentrate on making the playoffs and next season.
You must ASSUME that Darrell Armstrong is a NON EDUCATED ignorant fool!

If you do not know what his educational backround is, you don't know what he knows, how he got to know it, and from what institution of higher learning he got the knowledge from. If John Amache can be hailed as being a basketball player and an intelectual, then why can't other basketball players be hailed as the same? The majority of players in the NBA acutally hold college degrees.

Believe it or not!
eric

Carmel, IN

#19 Apr 11, 2007
It seems that Don Imus's only defense is to point out that Revs Jackson and Sharpton have also said stupid things in the past (which they have). That is silly--shouldnt standards be higher than that ? And 'freedom of speech' is also no defense. What was the 'speech'--what point was Imus making ?
CyberThug3000

United States

#20 Apr 11, 2007
sara wrote:
Imus is an arrogant jerk but he didn't say anything that they don't say over and over again in rap songs. Why is it offensive when a white person says it? I am sure there will be a lawsuit because this has probably "scarred" these women for life. What about the white duke lacrosse players that were arrested and practically convicted by the black HO that falsely accused them of rape? Their lives have been completely changed by that. Most people know that what he said was completely inappropriate, so fire him, but step up the bar for everyone else too.
Let's see...the Duke players were exonerated. The DA has resigned. And the "ho" as you so eloquently put it is probably still a "ho"! The lacrosse team is playing again and in another six months you won't even remember that it happened. And I'm sure after they get their degrees and enter the corporate world, they'll probably be put on a pedestal because the "good ol'boy network" came thru for them! So, no, there lives will be just fine I'm sure. As for rap music, like someone else has already stated, they beat up on women in general, not just the black ones! That's a whole different issue! Haven't you realized that when someone in your "inner circle" uses a derogatory term is TOTALLY different than when somone outside that comfort zone does the same? It's the biggest double-standard in society and unfortunately it will never change!
whatever

Jackson, MS

#21 Apr 11, 2007
MarkL wrote:
Here's the problem Crighton...
In rap songs and videos, WHAT artist singles out black women as HOES?
Go ahead and think about that for a second...
The answer is NOBODY. I repeat, NOBODY.
I have never heard Snoop, Nelly use the word black when discribing any HO in their songs. I have seen dozens of videos of these artists usings black, white, hispanic and asian women. When they say it, they mean ALL woman. Not to justify what they say, but understand that the reality is that no rap artist singles out a particular race when it comes to the word HO.
Back to Mr. Imus...
He pointed out a SPECIFIC group of women. He used the term "NAPPY." Nappy being a word used to denote the kink of a person's hair being of African decent.
When you again as a JOURNALIST denote a racist stereotype to castigate a group of people, you should be called on it.
Two "journalists" of African-American decent were fired within the last year. Harold Reynolds and Michael Irvin formerly of ESPN. Reynolds for sexually harrassing a assistant director on his show, Irvin for making the following comment - "Tony Romo has got to have some brother in him somewhere."
They were fired man, fired.
Wanna take bets on if they will ever have broadcast jobs again?
On the other hand, let's look at Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilly. Two guys who are working right now. Rush you allready know about, from the drug scandal, to the ESPN remarks that got him fired, etc.. O'Reilly settled out of court on a suit that a FOX co-worker made against him. FOX did not fire him, did not repremand him, did not squat. He's still on the air like nothing ever happened.
Seems like white guys in journalism get the chance live again after making racist statements, and harassing the fairer sex, but blacks don't. It also seems that they get a pass when it comes to the public at-large.
Well they should not, and if Darrell Armstrong wishes to make a statement about it, he can do it without having having to pontificate on what his teammates do socially. His teammates do not call black women basketball players "HO's" in a public forum.
At least we agree about Imus.
Wow. I don't even know where to begin. Your rant exhausts me. Why has this turned into a black/white issue? Because we have agendas, that is why. He should be punished because his attempt at being funny backfired. Had he characterized the Rutgers team as looking "manly" we would not be having this discussion. But the fact remains he did not, thus we are back to making this a race issue. I do not listen to Imus and could care less what happens to him. His words do not impact my job, my family, whether or not I enjoy my life, etc. Nor do they impact your life. You choose to make this an issue so you can rant and blame everything in your life on race. We are a pathetic culture. By the way, the examples that you use to support your argument make no senseand border on ignorant. Once again, they are just there to support your racism theory. On a related subject, surely you agree that Armstrong should be fired from the Pacers because of his basketball skills, don't you? Is that racist?

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