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#22 Feb 10, 2007
"...yelling expletives..." Glad my kids were not in the stands to hear this. Come on Pacers, character matters and it is time you step up. Remember the football movie of a few years ago called "The Replacements"?
The Pacers' behavior is so uncharacteristic of Larry Bird. The Pacers are damaging the reputation of Indianapolis with their bad boy/thug behavior.
For those of you from other cities: the Pacers DO NOT represent the character of Indianapolis... We're embarrassed by their behavior.
---- Character Matters
#23 Feb 10, 2007
PACER'S CARLISLE, BIRD, WALSH, SIMON'S LACK OF BACKBONE allows EMBARASMENTS TO INDY;
Pacer's "Leadership" MUST STOP the enabling EXCUSE MAKING for some Pacer's player's repeated and consistent lack of character...and hold them accountable above and beyond alleged criminal behavior.
For as much CLASS as Coach Dungy and the Colt's Super Bowl Champs exude, one would NEVER GUESS that the Pacer's played for the same city. I REFUSE to sit in a Pacer's seat for free.
No wonder they can't GIVE away enough Pacer's tickets to fill up Conseco Fieldhouse at this point-what a shame. Just when I thought CARLISLE, BIRD and WALSH had developed some BACKBONE by getting rid of Artest over the Disaster in Detroit and Jackson over the Strip Club parking lot shots....to TRY to fill up some seats.
These FOOLS need to learn some CHARACTER and the ability to WALK AWAY FROM TROUBLE-not seek it out...finding a way to get offended and throw their size and egos around town. This is Indianapolis not BAGHDAD. Pay me a few million to swallow some pride and walk away from a confrontation-any FOOL would-these are not the streets the highest crime areas of the nation.
If Colt's players can stay out of trouble during Super Bowl Weekend in Miami-surely Pacer's players can STOP LOOKING FOR TROUBLE and CONFRONTATION on a Tuesday night in Indianapolis.
Instead Pacer's Management and players want to make excuses for these headlines;
The manager told police he approached Tinsley and told him the fight did not involve him or his party. At this time, the manager said Tinsley became hostile towards him and that King shoved the manager.
VIEW THE POLICE REPORT HERE; http://wthr.images.worldnow.com/images/incomi...
The manager said Tinsley told him,"I guess you don't know who I am. I will **** kill you," and then Tinsley struck him with a closed fist on the left side of his head. King and Daniels then began to strike the manager, according to the police report, and the manager suffered a possible broken jaw and torn ear. Now Tinsley, Daniels and McLeod want to claim they were "just on their way out" of 8 Second Saloon..GIVE ME A BREAK.
Pacer players INABILITY and REFUSAL to walk around and away from trouble is an INSULT TO THE FANS and a repeated slap in the face to soft management. We consistently see these alleged criminals right back on the court and on TV starting the very next game-while the investigation is being completed.
Ironically, these players have been some of the teams most talented on the court-but that is NOT ENOUGH-TO SELL SEATS IN THE INDIANAPOLIS MARKET IT TAKES MORE THAN TALENT. NOW IT TAKES CLASS-Players must avoid a long team history criminal behavior and too soft and delayed management response in the least! Indianapolis, Pacer's fans and Pacer's Management and Leasership must DEMAND RESPECT from those fortunate few who represent this city on a national level.
Now Indianapolis knows it deserves better. Now we must expect more from those who are priveledged to represent Indianapolis.
With the "Reggie Miller era" gone the Pacer's Management desperately needs to humbly ask Dungy how to develop a team with men of CHARACTER not just talented players-I imagine the Dungy faith based approach could prove effective for a player character turnaround.
The Pacer's team is more important than any top performing individual players. Pacer's leadership must preserve and protect what little goodwill is left of the Pacer's Brand in the hearts, wallets, purses and corporate expense accounts of the greater Indiana sports marketplace.
We appreciate the Colt's example!
#24 Feb 10, 2007
Did Darrell Armstrong 'KICK" the chair or 'THROW" the chair! There is a difference!!
#25 Feb 10, 2007
#26 Feb 10, 2007
What really sucks about all this is that there are actually alot of classy guys on the pacers. Some of you rabid fans seem to ignore that.
Danny Granger, Ike Diogu, Dunleavy, Murphy, JO, Darrel Armstrong, etc, etc.
Have those guys EVER had any off the court issues??????????
#27 Feb 10, 2007
Well from listening to sports talk radio and reading comments such as these, you would think Bird, Walsh or The Simon's would make a move NOW!
Scrap this mess, fire Carlise or move him into another position within the organization. Go out and find a tuff hard nosed coach like...lets say PAUL SILAS for starters. Hang on to the workdogs like Granger, Diugo, Murphy, Foster, Armstrong...trade away Jermaine, Jammal, Marquis for some kind of pkg deal and get some quality young talent and maybe a couple of high draft picks. Cmon Simon Bro's, quit farting around with your malls and chew some ass's before Conseco becomes the greatest amatuer hockey stadium. I GUARANTEE you...Reggie, Mark Jackson, The Davis's, Mullin, Smits and J Rose are laughing at this train wreck. This is no longer fun. Go FC FLASHES.
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