Turnovers, missed free throws and 1 missing quarter for Magic

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Only one thing kept the Magic from beating the Pistons and advancing to the Eastern Conference finals.
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UF ALUM

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May 13, 2008
 
What does it say about Detroit when Orlando has 21 turnovers, shoots 50% from the line, and gave them over 30 free throw attempts and they still almost won.

If they could have protected the ball a little more they could have won this series.
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#3
May 13, 2008
 
Another thing the Magic learned is they are weak. They don't have the size to compete against the elite teams, yes Detroit played dirty, but the Magic don't have the size to push back, plain and simple. The Magic need to address this over the summer, they need to get a rugged PF to help out Dwight, and move Hedo to SF and Rashard to SG, with Bogans and Evans backing them up off the bench. If we had size to bang with the Pistons bigs, we would have won this series.
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May 13, 2008
 
UF ALUM wrote:
What does it say about Detroit when Orlando has 21 turnovers, shoots 50% from the line, and gave them over 30 free throw attempts and they still almost won.
If they could have protected the ball a little more they could have won this series.
Coulda, shoulda, woulda. But YOUR boys didn't control the ball, didn't make the free throws. That is the sign of immaturity. Best of luck next year, I see Orlando being possible power house in a few years, maybe if D Howard sticks around. Love those Pistons!!!! Bring on C's or Cavaliers...
Detroit Basketball

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#5
May 13, 2008
 
Sorry Orlando not this year either!
There always next year!!! Go Pistons!
Billwinkle

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#7
May 13, 2008
 
21 Turnovers?

This is almost 100% the fault of the Magic. If you worry about frustration you should think about how much of the frustration is caused by those turnovers to begin with. Something to work on.

As much as Turk has been a go-to guy in crunch time, Prince has an even better record stopping go-to guys in crunch time. You kept going right at the Pistons best defensive player time after time. I kept waiting for the drive and the kick out for a three, but it never came.

Any idea why?
Sam

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#8
May 14, 2008
 
Detroit Basketball wrote:
Sorry Orlando not this year either!
There always next year!!! Go Pistons!
There's next year ... and many years after that actually. Dwight is 22. Detroit is on its last legs man. Better enjoy it while you can. The age factor is not on MoTowns side.
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#9
May 14, 2008
 
The Magic had a low-scoring game, likely because of the Pistons non-stop in-your-face defense almost every play and the continued inability of the refs to see fouls by those Pistons. But Whitley, what's your excuse for a poor article that really says nothing? Were you getting your arms and hands swatted when you tried to type? Have a hand in your face? The Magic made points before and after the lull and had continued energy and bright spots throughout the game. Your article is a lull from beginning to end. Yours makes no points and offers zero food for thought.
Magic

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May 14, 2008
 
What does it say about Detroit when Orlando has 21 turnovers, shoots 50% from the line, and gave them over 30 free throw attempts and they still almost won.
What it says about Detroit is that they played tough, aggressive, clamp down defense. People love to assume that turnovers are self inflicted wounds. Not all the time. Sometimes turnovers are a result of maddeningly good defense. The Magic are not the better team. Plain and simple.
Magic

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May 14, 2008
 
rrlarry wrote:
If Orlando had more white players it could play smarter basketball and win more games,its a simple solution.
You're a pathetic human being. Go shoot yourself you racist piece of garbage.
dumbfounded

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May 14, 2008
 
rrlarry wrote:
If Orlando had more white players it could play smarter basketball and win more games,its a simple solution.
and rrlarry, can I assume you're voting for McCain? I knew from the Dixie flag on your pick-up. And Jimmy the Greek could of have told you, if they had more white players they would would be slower and wouldn't be able to jump as high. If rrlarry's right, the top teams would be those with the most white guys in their starting five...Let's see who's in the playoffs this year: Ooops, that doesn't seem to work when you look at the lines ups of the Celtics, Pistons, Lakers, Hornets, Spurs, Cavaliers, and Jazz. rrlarry, you better go back to watching those white folks sports like golf and women's tennis. Oops, forgot about Tiger and the Williams sistas. And I know rrlarry's not really prejudiced...he just prefers his hoop players to be the same color as his sheets.
Magic

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May 14, 2008
 
rrlarry wrote:
If Orlando had more white players it could play smarter basketball and win more games,its a simple solution.
ok...why dont you look at your own team.they have some old a** players...i give them mabye a year more until they get arthritis or mabye 6 months
go hornets
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#15
May 14, 2008
 
As a Pistons fan in Upper Mi.I want to congratulate this young Magic team for making it this far,they are a force to be reckoned with in the future,when they are older and more experienced(like Detroit)looking forward to the rematch next playoff season,and the ones after that.
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#16
May 14, 2008
 
You say the pistons are done because of there age,chauncy and Rip are both still in there Prime Stucky is good and one day will be a star Tay is getting better every year sheed still has a few great years ahead of him and we have Johnson who is only what 20 years old with so much raw talent who will one day be a super star, im sorry the pistons future is looking better then it has in years . GO PISTONS
Pistonfan

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#17
May 14, 2008
 
Been fun chattin with you boys, maybe next year. Oh, please don't give that racistidiot the satisfaction of a reply. As to the game, the Pistons really looked very confident and it is important to know they have the habit of playing to the level of their competition. Hence they will win by one point to the best and the worst teams-just they way it is with these guys. So all the junk about if we coulda, shoulda doesn't hold water unless you have a lead late in the game.
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#18
May 14, 2008
 
It should be mandatory for ALL Magic players to go to at least one college game next season during March Madness to see what basketball passion really is. The players don't complain about the refs, and you hardly see any careless turnovers. Jameer Nelson MUST be traded!!! He is the Magic's achilles heel. Otis, you're only fooling yourself if Nelson stays. He's been in the league for 4 years now, he's not going to get any better. Like I said earlier, some kind of sign-and-trade must be worked with the Wizards for Arenas, even if that means trading Turkoglu. Trade Jameer!! Trade Jameer!! Trade Jameer!!
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#19
May 14, 2008
 
The Magic are getting better. They need a legit power forward. Rashard Lewis has been a disappointment. Jameer has been better than expected. Dwight is fabulous. Hedo is great when he is on .
I think rather than iso hedo all the time at the end of games (not a great passer).Stan should have mixed it up.
As for the Pistons-ugly basketball, ugly fans, ugly city but at this time they are a better team.
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#20
May 14, 2008
 
The game is typical for magic and frustrating to anyone who has followed this team. Turnovers, we miss the critical rebound (Dwight) and our 100 million dollar acquisition disappears in the 4th quarter (Rashard). At least Hedo has the guts to put it on his shoulders.
Too much talk (Jameer) and too little action (Keith).
jenny

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#21
May 14, 2008
 
It has to be said...Turkoglu is a ball hog..!!!!! BIG TIME!!! Does not pass the ball...and when he finally does it...maybe because he is not so used to do it...he makes a turnover..

When he or Dooling got the ball I already know that they are going to shoot it, instead of making passes until get a good shot!!! This is me...and I just a Magic Fan...so I imagine the Detroit Pistons organization who study their opponent must already know this fact...and use it very well in the final quarter of the last 2 GAMES...It was the same story all over again...

Why Stan Gundy makes the same play for Turkoglu on the last play!!!!!!!!!!
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#22
May 14, 2008
 
See ya' next year hopefully. But I get the feeling that this team will be so shook up that they probably won't make it back into the playoffs. Seriously, the offense is flawed big-time. Forget the threes and play some real ball with real plays in the paint. Get a nice power forward and a big guard with skills and you will go far. But if that doesn't happen, then I feel sorry for you. Because you won't even make the playoffs next year.
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#23
May 14, 2008
 
I think the Magic will be a play-off team for years to come. But maybe not a true contender. There are problems. Dwight Howard must improve his free throw shooting considerably. Otherwise, at crunch time he is just going to be forever fouled. Like Shaq, like Big Ben. Dunks aren't a dime a dozen come play-off time. The play-offs are a much different animal. Plus, he must develop a jump shot of some sort. If he doesn't improve these weaknesses a title will not be coming your way.

Hedo and Rashard are clones. Small forwards who are scorers first and defenders way, way last. This is not a winning formula. You must get a power forward who is a defender, a physical presence, a rebounder. An intimidator of sorts. Then Hedo/Rashard works. Otherwise, no title.

Evans off the bench is fine. As a consistent starting 2 guard, maybe not. Jameer is another off the bench scorer. Great for that role. But as a starter they are going to shoot over him all day long. He cannot fix that.

The bench needs strengthening. More scrappers. more physical guys. The team needs to develop more of a junk yard dog mentality to be a contender.

My two cents.

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