Wolves said to be party in possible Anthony deal

The Timberwolves are a possible party in a proposed three-team trade involving Denver Nuggets star forward Carmelo Anthony, ESPN.com reported Sunday, citing "league sources." In the proposed trade, the New York Knicks would get Anthony and would send Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry to Minnesota. Full Story
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Justice

Rochester, MN

#21 Feb 7, 2011
I'm not sure which franchise is more pathetic, Vikings or Wolves!
Mike L

United States

#22 Feb 7, 2011
fracas wrote:
I don't think the Wolves get enough in this trade. Randolph is a POTENTIALLY good player, but NY would be the second team to give up on him if he is traded. His name was bandied about last year when Love was supposedly on the trading block (at least in the press). Kahn must have a "crush" on getting Randolph.
Curry's contract MIGHT be useful if we could trade him to some team that wanted to shed a player with a longer term contract, but there is no guarantee that we would find someone who wanted to give us a good player in exchange. We already have cap room, and don't need even more. Obviously, Curry has to be part of this deal as NY needs to shed some contracts in order to be able to put Carmelo on it's roster.
I would make this trade if Landry Fields were included, especially if the draft pick that we had to give up was Utah's (secured in the Big Al deal), or the one we get from Memphis, rather than one of our own (which will be lottery picks for the next several years).
How about the Wolves getting involved in a trade where we do the "raping" of the other team, instead of us always being the one's being taken advantage of.
I'm just glad someone who actually watches the Wolves commented on this story. First off, this is not from Kahn's mouth, so those of you bashing him should wait until something actually happens. As far as the rumor, I know Kahn wants to add a backup 5/4 that can block shots and brings some athletism. Anthony Randolph would fit that description well, but he still has some work to do. The Curry thing looks to be completly fabricated, so don't read too much into that.

And I don't think we've been taken advantage of as much as you think, Fracas. The Jefferson deal was not the best deal for the Wolves and I too would have prefered Danny Granger or some kind of impact player but it didn't happen. The Beasley trade was a great deal for us and the Webster trade looks good too. If we can get a couple more pieces, I think the future will be great. Aaron Brooks and Terrence Williams from the Rockets are two players I hope Kahn takes a look at.
utmost

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Feb 7, 2011
this hasn't happened, it is speculation - calm yourselves
SufferingWolvesF an

Louisville, KY

#24 Feb 7, 2011
Kahn has said he would not make this trade. He said that he needs to get more back in return. People need to stop complaining about a trade that wasn't made just for the sake of ripping Kahn. This is yet another rumor floated by the NY media to get everyone excited in NY, but it has NO chance of actually happening. The Knicks big problem is that they have no assets that Denver wants, and Denver desperately needs to trade Anthony or lose him for nothing. The Wolves have no reason to help NY or Denver out of a jam, unless it is a good deal for them. If the Wolves are going to give up Brewer and a 1st rounder, there are better players they can get than Anthony Randolph around the league.
SufferingWolvesF an

Louisville, KY

#25 Feb 7, 2011
Justice wrote:
I'm not sure which franchise is more pathetic, Vikings or Wolves!
Wolves. It is not even close.
Jack Hammer

Minneapolis, MN

#26 Feb 7, 2011
Huh? Just a silly rumor. Perry Jones (Baylor) is a more complete player and is more than two years younger. Oh, and the Wolves might select him in the next draft ... if they keep the pick.
Jack Hammer

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Feb 7, 2011
SufferingWolvesFan wrote:
Kahn has said he would not make this trade. He said that he needs to get more back in return. People need to stop complaining about a trade that wasn't made just for the sake of ripping Kahn. This is yet another rumor floated by the NY media to get everyone excited in NY, but it has NO chance of actually happening. The Knicks big problem is that they have no assets that Denver wants, and Denver desperately needs to trade Anthony or lose him for nothing. The Wolves have no reason to help NY or Denver out of a jam, unless it is a good deal for them. If the Wolves are going to give up Brewer and a 1st rounder, there are better players they can get than Anthony Randolph around the league.
Totally agree. The Wolves should ask for two #1's just for taking the salary dump and allowing the trade to be made. This is where it would have been nice to keep an "asset" like Jefferson.
fracas

Tucson, AZ

#28 Feb 7, 2011
Mike L wrote:
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I'm just glad someone who actually watches the Wolves commented on this story. First off, this is not from Kahn's mouth, so those of you bashing him should wait until something actually happens. As far as the rumor, I know Kahn wants to add a backup 5/4 that can block shots and brings some athletism. Anthony Randolph would fit that description well, but he still has some work to do. The Curry thing looks to be completly fabricated, so don't read too much into that.
And I don't think we've been taken advantage of as much as you think, Fracas. The Jefferson deal was not the best deal for the Wolves and I too would have prefered Danny Granger or some kind of impact player but it didn't happen. The Beasley trade was a great deal for us and the Webster trade looks good too. If we can get a couple more pieces, I think the future will be great. Aaron Brooks and Terrence Williams from the Rockets are two players I hope Kahn takes a look at.
Mike,

I agree that the Jefferson trade was not a particularly good exchange of talent, from a Wolves standpoint. Koufos is a marginal NBA-er. The first rounder we got will be just about worthless unless we get lucky. This trade was more about dumping Big Al's 14 million per year salary, and opening up minutes for Love. This was actually not one of our worst trades.

The Beasley trade was a steal, but Miami was over a barrel and we had the cap space. No quarrel with you there.

I don't know how you can say the Webster trade looks good. We got a guy who is hurt most of the time and is a streaky shooter when he is not. Plus, Webster is way more expensive than the draft pick would have been. Webster can't even beat out Johnson or Brewer for playing time.

When I was talking about the Wolves being taken advantage of, I was speaking of more than just this year. You have the absolutely dreadful Jaric trade, which we are still paying for (we owe the Clips our first this year or next, no exceptions). We gave Garnett away for Big Al, Telfair, Gerald Green, and other crap.

We traded Ty Lawson away for a late first rounder from Denver. Lawson would be the best PG on this team, probably even if you include Rubio, whose range extends about to the free throw line, and not beyond.

Roy for Foye and a little cash? Another bad deal even if you consider Roy's injuries.

The Mayo and a lot of crap, to Memphis, for Love and less crap, was a good deal.

So, other than hammering Miami in the Beasley deal, and getting Love for Mayo, how can you argue that we have been the beneficiary in any of these trades?

I appreciate you having an opinion, but I think you are far less correct than you think you are. The Wolves have a poor record of drafting, but their history of poor trading makes substandard drafting look relatively good by comparison.

“Great place to live”

Since: Jan 09

Grand Rapids, MN

#29 Feb 7, 2011
Kurt Rambis is not the problem. To quote Bud Grant, "you win with players" And to be an NBA contender you need at least 3 studs, one of whom plays the point and the others need to compliment the studs. We now have Beasley and Love with no viable Point and the rest of the team is one dimentionalat best. That said even Love and Beasley as good as they are, are not the type of defensive player that we need.
nstpaul

Saint Paul, MN

#30 Feb 7, 2011
CURRY is on the DL and is out indefinitely, If they do this trade I will be officially done watching the Timberwolves, to give away a first rounder Curry who is in his last year and out for the season, and Randolph who isn't playing at all this year, would be just a STUPID move by Mr. Build it, David Kahn. Don't do it T-Wolves!
Whatever

Las Vegas, NV

#31 Feb 7, 2011
Shouldn't the Wolves be holding out for a couple more point guards?

OK, I didn't really mean that.
Moby

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Feb 7, 2011
Wow, I thought McFail made some bad moves. If A. Randolph can't get off the bench in NY, a team only marginally better than the Wolves, tell me again why we would want him? Plus, as a 4 he plays the same position as Love, so again, why do we want this stiff?

Finally, how does an NBA player miss 47 games, more than half the season, with a sprained ankle? Ice it down, tape it up and get your rear on the court.
Moby

Minneapolis, MN

#33 Feb 7, 2011
And to clarify, Curry will never play in the league again. He is done.
Politically Incorrect

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Feb 8, 2011
Justice wrote:
I'm not sure which franchise is more pathetic, Vikings or Wolves!
Which one made the conference championship in the last 2 years?
Victim of the Economy

Lakeville, MN

#35 Feb 8, 2011
Hmmm Let's see, Randolf is averaging 1.7 points per game and Curry is averaging 2 points per game and has only played 10 games the past 2 years. Averaging 8 minutes a game.
If the Wolves do this I promise It will be the last straw for many fans. Brewer is a shot block fiend and is scoring some, let them mature as a group. And giving up a first rounder???? c'mon what are you thinking. Do you like being a laiughing stock of the sports world and sports center? Thats where you are headed. Instead why not go after Anthony instead of always being the throw in and relieving salary money.
If this goes down, I will stop for good. I just started watching them again after 2 years off and they have the nucleous to be a strong team. Trade Rubio and get something for him, I heard he stinks.
You know why not let a commitee of fans make your deals. You aleways screw things up. Get a panel of 12 knowledgeble fans who at least know the game, because you don't and let them vote and decide what should be done. It would be a large improvement over what we are use to. PLEASE dont do the deal. Or the target center is going to have as many fans and look like a WNBA game.
Justice

Rochester, MN

#36 Feb 8, 2011
Politically Incorrect wrote:
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Which one made the conference championship in the last 2 years?
Which one has kicked it's fans in the groin for the past 50 years?
Mark

Minneapolis, MN

#37 Feb 8, 2011
Time for NBA contraction.
NYC

New Milford, NJ

#38 Feb 9, 2011
The Dog Fight is really between NY Knicks and LA Lakers. East Coast vs. West Coast. Read intriguing story here: http://exm.nr/Melo-NYKLAL
Mike L

United States

#39 Feb 9, 2011
fracas wrote:
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Mike,
I agree that the Jefferson trade was not a particularly good exchange of talent, from a Wolves standpoint. Koufos is a marginal NBA-er. The first rounder we got will be just about worthless unless we get lucky. This trade was more about dumping Big Al's 14 million per year salary, and opening up minutes for Love. This was actually not one of our worst trades.
The Beasley trade was a steal, but Miami was over a barrel and we had the cap space. No quarrel with you there.
I don't know how you can say the Webster trade looks good. We got a guy who is hurt most of the time and is a streaky shooter when he is not. Plus, Webster is way more expensive than the draft pick would have been. Webster can't even beat out Johnson or Brewer for playing time.
When I was talking about the Wolves being taken advantage of, I was speaking of more than just this year. You have the absolutely dreadful Jaric trade, which we are still paying for (we owe the Clips our first this year or next, no exceptions). We gave Garnett away for Big Al, Telfair, Gerald Green, and other crap.
We traded Ty Lawson away for a late first rounder from Denver. Lawson would be the best PG on this team, probably even if you include Rubio, whose range extends about to the free throw line, and not beyond.
Roy for Foye and a little cash? Another bad deal even if you consider Roy's injuries.
The Mayo and a lot of crap, to Memphis, for Love and less crap, was a good deal.
So, other than hammering Miami in the Beasley deal, and getting Love for Mayo, how can you argue that we have been the beneficiary in any of these trades?
I appreciate you having an opinion, but I think you are far less correct than you think you are. The Wolves have a poor record of drafting, but their history of poor trading makes substandard drafting look relatively good by comparison.
Fracas,

First off, most of those bad moves were made by Kevin McHale, not David Kahn. The Webster trade is still a good one in my eyes. He's been injured, but I believe this is because of his back surgery earlier this year. He was never supposed to be a starter, but a valuable reserve (which I think he is). He signed a 4 year/20 million dollar deal back in 2008, and will be a nice asset in terms of making a trade (possibly) work.

The Jaric trade is one I never liked, but again that was McHale's deal. Same with the Foye/Roy DISASTER. Kahn is here to make this team his... Now, I know Jonny Flynn has not put up Ty Lawson type numbers, but they play in two different systems. You can't tell me that Lawson would do any better in the triangle that Rambis runs because his game is similar to Flynn's. Bottom line is we still need more time before we rule David Kahn as a draft failure, marginal drafter, or draft genius.

And I'm not saying that Kahn is perfect, but he does get things done that he wants to get done, and he is a pretty good evaluator of talent. Once again, I like having discussions with people that know something about the Timberwolves.

I think you are far less correct than you think you are ;)
nbasniper1

Palmdale, CA

#40 Feb 10, 2011
I really do not see any dire urgency for the Knicks to get Carmelo Anthony in a Knicks' uniform. In the end Carmelo will end up on the youngest and quickly improving teams in the NBA . As far as the Lakers are concerned they are afraid that their brand is on the decline and are grasping at trade chatter. Celtics are making a last run for a title since their team is the oldest in the NBA.

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