Suns set early on the Pacers

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They were without their starting forward and a key backup, and were playing the first home game after a four-game Eastern Conference swing that ended Wednesday in Philadelphia, making it essentially an ...

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#1
Mar 3, 2007
 
Sad to say but this trip will seal the deal for Carlisle. That extension the guy got before the season is loooking sillier and sillier now.
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#2
Mar 3, 2007
 
There certainly appears to be something seriously wrong with the Pacers organinzation -- and it goes beyond Carlise. Little of what has happened in recent years makes any sense. And the future keeps getting dimmer and dimmer.
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#3
Mar 3, 2007
 
It appears that the team, like their fan base, have just rolled over and died.
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#4
Mar 3, 2007
 
The Pacers are in a very unenviable position. They have managed to stay in the playoffs for an amazingly long time without having a true superstar, but this may be the end of the run.

At this point, I don't think anyone envisions a deep run into the playoffs. With no draft picks, we will be even worse this next season. The only solutions appears to be dropping into the bottom ten so that the first round pick returns to Indiana.

This will not sit well with Jermaine--and he is a really great player with a warrior spririt. However, we cannot put him out there with the necessary talent to win big without some drastic measures. Sit him down and let him heal. Develope the younger guys for a bit. See who we really want to keep and who must go. I reason we are at least one (maybe two) lottery picks away from being a contender. Now is the time. Fan support will not get much worse.
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#5
Mar 3, 2007
 
Look at the bullets in Carlisles gun. There's only one and Jermaine can't do it all by himself. I feel sorry for Rick...he's a great coach but the immediate future for this team looks increasingly worse as the days go by.
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Mar 3, 2007
 
This team's problem is not talent, it's heart. Dunleavy is a timid boy who is afraid to shoot the ball. O'Neal can't do anything but complain. Foster won't learn how to shoot. Daniels may give you 16 a night, but he doesn't have the fire to lead. Tinsley doesn't know how to shoot and if he worked half way at it would probably be just as good as Tony Parker. Granger's potential greatness is being stifled by this team. Carlisle needs a little more of Nellie and Johnson in his coaching style. It's sad that a once greatly respected franchise has fallen to this. No heart. No fire. No drive. Reggie provided that every night. Other guys in the league do that every night. This team's greatest fault is itself. As a fan of basketball, it is a lot of fun to see the good teams play, but as a Pacers fan and Indiana native, this is horrendously painful. Again I say: "This team has no heart."

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Mar 3, 2007
 
I can't wait for March Madness, that way we don't have to hear as much about the Pacers. I say its time to scrap this season. Let the young guys start, and hopefully develop into the players we need to turn this franchise around next season. We have a team with no true superstars,(yeah I know JO, but he can't lead this team) but with more potential talent then just about any other team in the league.

Either way, things need to change and until they do, I will be watching less and less of the Pacers.
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#8
Mar 3, 2007
 
Does anyone think that a changing of the guard (Coach Carslisle) would help this team. The coach is methodic and has a focus on playing slow down game and we all heard before the season that this team was going to be more athletic and play more up tempo. I am just imagining things or does this team look and play a lot older than what they really are?
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#9
Mar 3, 2007
 
I know this will sound archly heretical to many Pacer fans, but Reggie Miller did not play with heart every night. He simply didn't. I was a season ticket holder for every single year of Reggie's tenure. And while I will never disparage him because he truly was an all-star and a great guy, he was a pretty average shooting guard for most of his career and a below average shooting guard in his last few seasons. Many nights he didn't try particularly hard. He played much better and harder when the games were on national television. He was the team leader for eighteen years, and in that span how many championships did the Pacers win? Yes, he brought us many memorable moments, especially in the Garden against the Knicks. But he wasn't The Second Coming. Check the stats.

Nostalgia for a past that was marked with failure is not for me.
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#10
Mar 3, 2007
 
The sun set on the Pacers long before last nights sad showing. Churning players isn't the answer! There is no leadership to bring the team to it's potential.
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#11
Mar 3, 2007
 
I watched the game until the middle of the 4th quarter. The Suns got up 18-20 points and I quit watching. I did not expect the pacers to win against one of the premier teams in the west, but the second half of the game was hard to watch. It does seem they are going through the motions. Changing the coach will not help. Bird and Walsh have to do something. I'm sure they have a hard time watching this team, too. I used to watch the western road games even though they start at 10:30 PM. I will not be watching this coming week. It is too painful.
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#12
Mar 3, 2007
 
Diaw was a starter before he got injured.

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#13
Mar 3, 2007
 
I think it's all Boomer's fault! Perhaps it's changing balls midway through the season, or maybe it's CRC? Hmmmmmm ....... so easy a caveman can see it!
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#14
Mar 3, 2007
 
I wonder if it is a coincidence that Tinsley and Daniels are injured at the same time.......bad drugs....or are the hookers and strippers at Club Rio or Eight Seconds getting into S & M
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Mar 3, 2007
 
Who cares
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Mar 3, 2007
 
co incidence wrote:
I wonder if it is a coincidence that Tinsley and Daniels are injured at the same time.......bad drugs....or are the hookers and strippers at Club Rio or Eight Seconds getting into S & M
Prolly lunged too a bit too colse to a stirpper with money between thier teeth.
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Mar 3, 2007
 
Bob wrote:
The sun set on the Pacers long before last nights sad showing. Churning players isn't the answer! There is no leadership to bring the team to it's potential.
No they just have too many stuges at guards and too many Forwards on the team.
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Mar 3, 2007
 
Casey wrote:
I know this will sound archly heretical to many Pacer fans, but Reggie Miller did not play with heart every night. He simply didn't. I was a season ticket holder for every single year of Reggie's tenure. And while I will never disparage him because he truly was an all-star and a great guy, he was a pretty average shooting guard for most of his career and a below average shooting guard in his last few seasons. Many nights he didn't try particularly hard. He played much better and harder when the games were on national television. He was the team leader for eighteen years, and in that span how many championships did the Pacers win? Yes, he brought us many memorable moments, especially in the Garden against the Knicks. But he wasn't The Second Coming. Check the stats.
Nostalgia for a past that was marked with failure is not for me.
Dude the Pacers need to fire Carlisle and higher Reggie as the head coach, I bet he'd either shape up the 3 stuges or play them because he was a guard himself.
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Mar 3, 2007
 
BC Realtor wrote:
I can't wait for March Madness, that way we don't have to hear as much about the Pacers. I say its time to scrap this season. Let the young guys start, and hopefully develop into the players we need to turn this franchise around next season. We have a team with no true superstars,(yeah I know JO, but he can't lead this team) but with more potential talent then just about any other team in the league.
Either way, things need to change and until they do, I will be watching less and less of the Pacers.
Then when March Madness is over you can watch all thoes new exciting rookies in the NHL.
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Mar 3, 2007
 
Rob in Charlotte wrote:
This team's problem is not talent, it's heart. Dunleavy is a timid boy who is afraid to shoot the ball. O'Neal can't do anything but complain. Foster won't learn how to shoot. Daniels may give you 16 a night, but he doesn't have the fire to lead. Tinsley doesn't know how to shoot and if he worked half way at it would probably be just as good as Tony Parker. Granger's potential greatness is being stifled by this team. Carlisle needs a little more of Nellie and Johnson in his coaching style. It's sad that a once greatly respected franchise has fallen to this. No heart. No fire. No drive. Reggie provided that every night. Other guys in the league do that every night. This team's greatest fault is itself. As a fan of basketball, it is a lot of fun to see the good teams play, but as a Pacers fan and Indiana native, this is horrendously painful. Again I say: "This team has no heart."
The team has about the most tallent in the NBA at the Forward position, they just have too many idiots at Guard.

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