Knicks consider trading Balkman to Nuggets

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The Knicks and Nuggets are discussing a trade that would send 2006 first-round pick Renaldo Balkman to Denver for point guard Taurean Green and small forward Bobby Jones, an NBA front-office source told Newsday ... Full Story
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the boss

Makati, Philippines

#1 Jul 28, 2008
it just goes to show u wat a dimwit donnie is when he couldve used the clippers trade exception for trading zach. the knicks are perreniel LOSERS until they hire a savy n competent gm like jerry west or colangelo. look at all their offseason acqisition and u know wat a Loser those decision makers are starting from Dolan. Donnies never won anything and hes over analytical and consertive approach will continue to drag down the knicks to infamy and to the gutter!!!
the boss

Makati, Philippines

#2 Jul 28, 2008
hey donnie, if ur reading this. trade crawford a.k.a. don knotts and D.Lee 4 Josh Smith. Get rid of Jeffries, Zach, Collins, for any player dat plays agressively on defense. then youll have a decent team dat shud make the playoffs. hey donnie,I shud get a salary for doing your job u old fart! stick to the plan and purge most of D uma$$ isiahs acquisition and youll be OK.
the boss

Makati, Philippines

#4 Jul 28, 2008
If dolan only had half a wit the knicks shud be styling with their unlimited resource. hey donnie, this is the team u shud be trying to put out there for this season. marbury, richardson, chandler, josh smith, galinari, . bench: bring back houston, nate the gr8, curry, duhon, rose...and if these bums r still untraded: zach n big snacks..(i honestly forgot B.snacks name)
the boss

Makati, Philippines

#5 Jul 28, 2008
hey dolan, dont forget to put my check in the mail for doing donnies job. western union it to the boss!!!
Terry

Brooklyn, NY

#6 Jul 28, 2008
Great! Let's trade one of the guys who actually hustles and plays defense. Makes perfect sense.
Honch

Nesconset, NY

#7 Jul 28, 2008
Now he can sell weed to Carmelo.
DickBarnett

Taylorsville, NC

#8 Jul 28, 2008
Trade for another guard???? What are they thinking??
joes1960

Nashua, NH

#9 Jul 28, 2008
sure..... trade him......
we can't have someone with heart playing in NY
Its against everthing the Dolan's stand for !
Slugger

Troy, MI

#10 Jul 28, 2008
Trading Balkman is a big mistake. As Terry alludes to, Balkman plays too much defense to fit into D'Antoio's defenseless system. The "decision making" and "savvy" Balkman lacks is the ability to make a block and a steal
when you need it.
Tubbs

New York, NY

#11 Jul 28, 2008
It's a salary dump. Plain and simple. Too many forwards. They can't just release Balkman, so they'll trade him for two contracts they can dump. They save money and clear the roster a bit.
mtakak

Koyuk, AK

#12 Jul 28, 2008
I think the Knicks will be a good team but will not make the playoffs again. Whats Gallinari going to do? He can't guard players like Kobe or LeBron. He's a soft player. The Knicks need shed big contracts and get younger like what the Blazers are doing.
CHRISTIAN

Woodbury, NY

#13 Jul 28, 2008
Can someone please explain to me why Walsh and D'Antoni are willing to trade the players with the biggest hearts, the biggest fan favorites, and the only players on the Knicks that play defense. Also I feel like Balkman and Lee are best fit for the run and gun offense that he is trying to implement. IDK I don't see how this makes any sense, and yet pass up the opportunity to get rid of Zach and his contract for a second round pick and be willing to give up Balkman for nothing, cause their planning on waving these two anyway.....idk....Knicks need to keep Lee and Balkman, and get rid of the cancers Zach and Steph.....
jys22

New York, NY

#14 Jul 28, 2008
In a relatively quiet and boring summer so far for the Knicks, I wouldn't mind this trade going down if it meant shedding Balkman's contract by waiving Jones/Green. I like Balkman's energy, but I have to agree that he doesn't fit with regards to thinking decisively with the ball.
HarleyRider

London, UK

#15 Jul 28, 2008
It really doesn't matter........we're at least a few years away, at best, from having a decent team
Kyonk

Albertson, NY

#16 Jul 28, 2008
CHRISTIAN wrote:
Can someone please explain to me why Walsh and D'Antoni are willing to trade the players with the biggest hearts, the biggest fan favorites, and the only players on the Knicks that play defense. Also I feel like Balkman and Lee are best fit for the run and gun offense that he is trying to implement. IDK I don't see how this makes any sense, and yet pass up the opportunity to get rid of Zach and his contract for a second round pick and be willing to give up Balkman for nothing, cause their planning on waving these two anyway.....idk....Knicks need to keep Lee and Balkman, and get rid of the cancers Zach and Steph.....
They are willing to trade them because big hearts don't mean you can run and shoot. The system D'Antoni is installing means constant running up and down, and the ability to shoot from anywhere. Lee and Balkman are great bench guys, but they can't shoot. They are putbackers and dunkers and the system doesn't need that. This isn't about the Knicks putting out a group of lovable losers, it's about finding the guys that work in the system. I love Lee and Balkman, but if dumping means the Knicks get closer to winning then I say do it. Sooner or later, you have to decide whether you want to cuddle with your favorite player, or watch your team win.

Since: Jan 08

Bronx, NY

#17 Jul 28, 2008
HarleyRider wrote:
It really doesn't matter........we're at least a few years away, at best, from having a decent team
BINGO!
Thanks. There are a few posters besides you that GET IT, but not many. As Pink Floyd once said, "everyones expendable, and no one has a real friend".
Thats the way it's gotta be to turn this around.
We are FINALLY (thank God) OFFICIALLY rebuilding. Isiah tried to sidestep it, and further pizzed on what was left of his reputation. No one on this roster is safe. Any move that could have salary cap advantages a year from now has to be considered. Marbury fans, and I know there are a few on these boards.....unless he shows a HUGE DESIRE to be part of rebuilding, he's as good as gone. No matter what people think about him.
I like Lee and Balkman too. But any roster change MUST BE CONSIDERED. I am a diehard Knicks fan, and I will say this. In my opinion, I'd even be OK with getting worse before we get better (if thats even possible), so long as rebuilding the team is a priority. And I'd be the first to admit, I like the way Lee, Renaldo and Jamal show up every night. But I'm tired enough of "quick fixes" and "mentally rebuilding head cases".
I actually understand what Isiah attempted to do. He tried to put together a "rag-tag" group of lovable misfits and inspire them through the force of sheer personality. Well, there was no Hollywood ending here. Probably because, with the possible exception of Malik Rose, there was no steady, positive veteran presence preaching "team" in the locker room.
Last four years I've watched some of Isiahs "projects" QUIT right in front of me.
Enough. Take 3-4 years Mr. Walsh, and do something different. These "quick fixes" seem to go on forever.
HarleyRider

London, UK

#18 Jul 28, 2008
Kyonk wrote:
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They are willing to trade them because big hearts don't mean you can run and shoot. The system D'Antoni is installing means constant running up and down, and the ability to shoot from anywhere. Lee and Balkman are great bench guys, but they can't shoot. They are putbackers and dunkers and the system doesn't need that. This isn't about the Knicks putting out a group of lovable losers, it's about finding the guys that work in the system. I love Lee and Balkman, but if dumping means the Knicks get closer to winning then I say do it. Sooner or later, you have to decide whether you want to cuddle with your favorite player, or watch your team win.
"putbackers and dunkers".....yes, they do mose, if not all of their damage inside. But in order to be a "putbacker and dunker" you must first be a "rebounder". For a team to be a running team, they must first REBOUND the ball, to get it moving.
Rebound.....outlet.....pass... ...dunk!
CHRISTIAN

Woodbury, NY

#19 Jul 28, 2008
Kyonk wrote:
<quoted text>
They are willing to trade them because big hearts don't mean you can run and shoot. The system D'Antoni is installing means constant running up and down, and the ability to shoot from anywhere. Lee and Balkman are great bench guys, but they can't shoot. They are putbackers and dunkers and the system doesn't need that. This isn't about the Knicks putting out a group of lovable losers, it's about finding the guys that work in the system. I love Lee and Balkman, but if dumping means the Knicks get closer to winning then I say do it. Sooner or later, you have to decide whether you want to cuddle with your favorite player, or watch your team win.
obviously dude you don't know basketball, cause Balkman and Lee are the most adapt to run this run and gun offense, only players that hustle for rebounds and steals, which leads to fast breaks and fast points, yea they are not the best shooters, neither were Shaq, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Boris Diaw, and Amare jus established a jump shot the last two yrs since coming back frm injury. and please explain how shedding a 1million dollar contract, really helps the knicks, when he's one of the least paid players on the knicks, when you have a bum(loser) Zach Randolph making 48million the next 3yrs, and Steph making 21 million next yr....ur trippin dude....Keep Balkman and Lee and get rid of Zach, Steph, James, Collins, Jeffries, and Malik Rose...and that will clear space for the Summer of Lebron, or the following yr when Carmelo is a free agent.
MARC

Kraków, Poland

#20 Jul 28, 2008
KNICKS NEED TO TRADE ZACH RANDOLPH AND GET A BETTER GUY!!! THEY NEED TO PICK UP EMEKA OKAFOR
Kyonk

Albertson, NY

#21 Jul 28, 2008
CHRISTIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
obviously dude you don't know basketball, cause Balkman and Lee are the most adapt to run this run and gun offense, only players that hustle for rebounds and steals, which leads to fast breaks and fast points, yea they are not the best shooters, neither were Shaq, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Boris Diaw, and Amare jus established a jump shot the last two yrs since coming back frm injury. and please explain how shedding a 1million dollar contract, really helps the knicks, when he's one of the least paid players on the knicks, when you have a bum(loser) Zach Randolph making 48million the next 3yrs, and Steph making 21 million next yr....ur trippin dude....Keep Balkman and Lee and get rid of Zach, Steph, James, Collins, Jeffries, and Malik Rose...and that will clear space for the Summer of Lebron, or the following yr when Carmelo is a free agent.
So an offense that depends on shooters will work fine with two guys who can't shoot? And yet you tell me I don't know the game?

And Grant Hill and Shawn Marion are shooters moron, and how in god's name are you going to compare David Lee to Amare Stoudemire. Please.

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