Defensive lapses prove hurtful

Defensive lapses prove hurtful

There are 52 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 19, 2008, titled Defensive lapses prove hurtful. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

"Surprised" or "caught off guard" aren't words the Indiana Pacers can use when talking about their inability stop the Sacramento Kings' offense on Saturday night.

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IPS graduates 52 percent

West Manchester, OH

#42 Jan 20, 2008
BRING VINCE TO TOWN wrote:
THE TEAM COULD BE
DANNY,VINCE,DUNLEAVY,DIAGOU AND FOSTER, THEY
COULD REALLY PLAY UP TEMPO LIKE THE GOLDEN STATE
WARRIORS
First off, turn off the CAPS!

Secondly, who is your point guard in this fantasy lineup of yours?
Bad Play from Bad Players

Ft Mitchell, KY

#43 Jan 20, 2008
If the current small line up is kept than the trade makes sense. The line up would be Tinsley, Carter, Dunleavy, Granger and Murphy, Foster or Diogu. Rush goes back to the bench to add scoring to the second unit.
My guess is that if this deal is made there will be more to come. Tinsley will not be a Pacer by the beginning of next season. The Pacers are trying to unload him now and are just looking for a deal that does not stick us with another Dunleavy/Murphy type contract.
BRING VINCE TO TOWN

Fishers, IN

#44 Jan 20, 2008
THEY LINE UP WOULD BE MARCUS

WILLIAMS,DANNY,VINCE,DUNLEAVY FOSTER OR DIOGU


AND I AGREE THAT THE PACERS ARE TRYING TO GET

RID OF TINSLEY
Jesus F Christ

Jeffersonville, OH

#45 Jan 20, 2008
Bad Play from Bad Players wrote:
<quoted text>First, Larry Bird is not the owner. Mel and Herb Simon own the Pacers. They are millionaires who made their money building and managing shopping malls.
The lack of defense comes from a lack of talent. Tinsley has never played defense in his whole career. Dunleavy plays zero defense and is way too slow. Diener plays zero defense. Murphy occassionally plays defense. When a team is composed of players that would not start on any other team in the league you have the Pacers.
Danny Granger, Jermaine O'Neal, and Mike Dunleavy would start for a high majority of NBA teams. Marquis Daniels, Jeff Foster, Troy Murphy and Jamaal Tinsle would start for several teams. Kareem Rush has turned out to be a great bench player (and becoming worthy of the starting position).

Here's what I don't get about your argument -- you originally said the lack of defense came from a lack of hussle. Now you're saying it is due to a lack of talent.
SMyint

Aberdeen, MD

#46 Jan 20, 2008
Pacers brought in O'Brien to save Jamaal Tinsley, not to save the team.
SMyint

Aberdeen, MD

#47 Jan 20, 2008
I'd welcome the trade because it can certainly change the chemistry. Tinsley should be traded as well. No matter how good his numbers are, he is nothing but a loser. Win or lose, he doesn't care. He doesn't play hard. He doesn't show passion of the game. I'd rather see Pacers play games with a point guard who cares about winning, plays hard, plays with passion, leads the team in the right directions, and doesn't go out late to party. Read my lips-- as long as Tinsley is in Pacers uniform, either in the lineup or on the bench, I don't see Pacers winning. I think O'Brien ought to realize by now that he vouched for the wrong guy. Through out his NBA career, Tinsley wisely took too many excuses: the brawl, the suspensions, the retirement, the injuries, the coach, so on and so forth. We have had enough of him. I don't know if the management and the new coach have or not. But with him in Pacers uniform, I can assure that Pacers will repeat the same thing they did in last season--missed the playoffs.
ARS

Thousand Oaks, CA

#48 Jan 21, 2008
Jesse wrote:
Can we get a totally new team?
Awwww, why not?
there will always be a new group of players now and then
ARS

Thousand Oaks, CA

#49 Jan 21, 2008
Tinzley wrote:
Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said. "I thought we had a very poor defensive game.
Then O'Brien goes on to say..."I appreciate the effort and attitude from our team," said O'Brien
There is no excuse for not playing defense every minute of every game.
Give me a break. They play no defense but he appreciates the effort???
This team is bad.
no the team just needs more talent on certain levels and they need to believe in themselves. If it takes for Eric Gordon to land on this team for you to start believing in them, then you will be set up for more probably even far worse sorrow. There is too many distractions of uncertainty on this team (will Jamaal still be here, where will JO be playing next season?) for the core of the Pacers to look forward to playing in the playoffs let alone the next game. What this team needs just as much as any team in the league is structure and stability. If you like watching basketball and you want the Pacers to win championships, then keep watching games keep going to the games when you see a growing trend of lack of desire or sportsmanship or whatever it is the player or players are lacking then just shake your head and tell yourself this... "these guys just aren't ready" or better yet "its just not our time" but the worst thing to do is call the team or players on the team harsh names and quit watching because one day the shift will change and you won't be there to see it, you missed out, you weren't part of it. If you don't like the way the league is looking to be in the future, then go ahead stop watching, but remember that the fans are part of the game too, If the league falls apart you had your share in the downfall also, YOU are equally responsible.
ARS

Thousand Oaks, CA

#50 Jan 21, 2008
this is the last you'll hear from me.. I will do the opposite of the first guy to post about this article.. I will continue to read the articles, but I will NOT be reading these posts that consist of negative comments on the verge of asking for the banishment of certain individuals and possibly the whole team, league, etc. If the Pacers winning multiple championships every decade is the only thing that helps most of you live happy lives, then you people had THE BEST parents, guardians, teachers, coaches, guidance counselors anyone can ask for. If those people aren't to blame you need extended help.
JKL

Fowler, IN

#51 Jan 21, 2008
ARS wrote:
this is the last you'll hear from me.. I will do the opposite of the first guy to post about this article.. I will continue to read the articles, but I will NOT be reading these posts that consist of negative comments on the verge of asking for the banishment of certain individuals and possibly the whole team, league, etc. If the Pacers winning multiple championships every decade is the only thing that helps most of you live happy lives, then you people had THE BEST parents, guardians, teachers, coaches, guidance counselors anyone can ask for. If those people aren't to blame you need extended help.
this is the last you'll hear from me..

Promise? Let the door hit you in the a-- on the way out.
Garrett Kall

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#52 Jan 21, 2008
You guys are the problem. I post a question, no one responds, then you continue negative dialogue back and forth about nothing. I've been to a Colts game at the RCA, I've seen all you guys. The softest sorriest bunch of sports fans I've ever seen. Even during Reggie Miller's last game when the Pistons were getting away with ever call, you guys couldn't even find enough energy to boo the referees. That's why the Heat have a title and you guys have nothing to show for the last couple decades. SOFT
Realistic

Fort Thomas, KY

#53 Jan 21, 2008
Did someone just say something?

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