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The snow piles lining Columbus driveways serve to demonstrate the principle of essential productivity as it relates to the Cleveland Cavaliers and Shaquille O'Neal. Just as homeowners plop down a decent chunk of change for a gas-powered snowblower they need only five or six times a winter, so the Cavs shelled out $20 million last June to acquire ... Full Story
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cavs2010champs

San Pedro, Philippines

#1 Feb 12, 2010
It went the way it was expected, actually....

Shaq's and Howard's last few games against each other, nobody ever had a clear cut winner...both always were limited from their usual production... when they fought last season...it was a virtual tie...but the Suns lost because Orlando had better production from their other players...the game was not decided by Howard or Shaq. They negated each other, and their teammates were the ones who were the deciding factor.
For the Cavs...i am not sure that is a bad thing. Quite the opposite, actually. Last season, Cleveland didn't have an answer for Dwight, and he scored at will. With Shaq, if the Diesel can negate, or contain Howard's points in the paint, that can be all the difference the Cavs needs to win their playoffs series against the Magic.
Is that worth $20M? Well, there are players who make more, or some who make almost as much, but are not nearly as effective as Shaq. So, if the Cavs want to win it all this year...they just have to get past Orlando and/or Boston...we know they are capable of beating the Lakers. Nothing is set in stone, obviously, but the Cavs' 4-0 record against the Lakers and the Magics is certainly a confidence booster.
I am feeling it this year....Cavs will win the NBA title...LeBron will win his first (of many) titles and the MVP...Shaq will get his 5th, and hopefully stay on for the repeat next year.

Since: Sep 09

Lewis Center, OH

#2 Feb 12, 2010
You cannot under-estimate the value of Anthony Parker and Jamario Moon either. Those two guys are long and they would've been soooo needed last June out on the defensive perimeter when Rafer Alston and Hedo Terkoglu were bombing 3's against the Cavs -- almost unguarded.

The only thing preventing this team from winning the NBA title THIS season is if James gets injured, and of course -- the old Cleveland curse.
kryptonian

Hofuf, Saudi Arabia

#3 Feb 12, 2010
Shaq's impact last night was felt not only when he was in the game. The fact that Howard played "sparingly", as you've put it in the pic caption, as well (at least by his own standards) was basically due to Shaq. That fact shows clearly that Howard cannot get that much into his comfort zone with another great big man opposing him. That leaves the Cavs one less problem to deal with, which makes winning over the Magic a little easier. 2-0 to be exact. In other words, you are as blind as most of the Shaq/Cavs haters out there not to see how valuable Shaq is RIGHT NOW to the team.
John

New York, NY

#4 Feb 12, 2010
The Cavs will lose in the playoffs. Last year nobody saw the matchup problems looming with Orlando until after the fact. This year it will be something else. Lebron will leave Cleveland and the Cavs will relocate to Seattle.

Since: Apr 08

Akron, Ohio

#6 Feb 12, 2010
John wrote:
The Cavs will lose in the playoffs. Last year nobody saw the matchup problems looming with Orlando until after the fact. This year it will be something else. Lebron will leave Cleveland and the Cavs will relocate to Seattle.
What a load of crap you spew.

Cavs are more on track this year than ever before. No more are the Cavs undersized and undermanned. Shaq is accomplishing what he was brought here for and more. He puts pressure on other bigs by getting them in foul trouble, as you've witnessed against Howard twice this season. He's right there for the easy lay up allowing the rest of the team to play the shooters straight up. Right now he's getting more touches with Mo & Delonte out.(good to have West back last night).

LeBron isn't going anywhere. The Cavs organization won't let that happen.
JT Thomas

Cleveland, OH

#7 Feb 12, 2010
John from NY. You guys want LeBron so bad. He is not coming to that over hype town. You don't get it...JJ Hickson didn't play Orlando last year. Anderson is better, Boobsie Gibson is healthy. Also...they beat them without Mo Williams. And of course LeBron is even better than last year when average over 38 points a game against them. "Leon Powe"
Deficits

Dublin, OH

#9 Feb 12, 2010
Dick Tracy wrote:
you don't know wat u talking about white boy! you r a dope as u said.
Why don't you read the article instead of making inflammatory racist remarks? Oller was clearly analyzing the reasons for getting Shaq and the reality of how it played out last night. Shaq was very effective for a few possessions that may have helped seal the victory at the end but he *did* commit several stupid fouls (read the Cleveland beat writer Windhorst if you don't believe it) that forced the Cavs to adjust back to last year's type of defense which the Magic abused.

Winning regular season games only gets you to the seeding and gives a small indication of how the playoffs may go but remember 2007 - Cleveland beat San Antonio both games and were totally blown out in the Finals. Big difference there.

This year, I believe the maturity of the entire organization is showing on how they will deal with the competition and I'm looking forward to the playoffs!

Go Cavs!
Steve Croyle

Dublin, OH

#10 Feb 12, 2010
Do you know anything about sports, Rob? I don't know if you do. Besides wasting a third of your space with a clunky snow blower analogy you completely failed to see what Shaq brought to the table vs. Orlando. Yes, both players got into foul trouble. That means Shaq neutrlaized Howard. In fact, in both confrontations this year, Howard has been less active because Shaq is the one player who is more imposing than he is. I think you also missed that 20 point run where Lebron put on a clinic Shaq was instrumental in that. His presence in the lane forced Orlando to guard James one-on-one.

Shaq wasn't brought to Cleveland to anchor the team, that's why the Cavs got to trade dead weight to Phoenix to bring him in. He's a guy who will put in about 20 minutes a night.

Now if Shaq loses interest after the break and fades away in the playoffs you might have a point, but what did Cleveland give up for him? Nothing.

One other problem with your article: the Cavs did so much more than just pick up Shaq. They got some length as well. Guys like Moon and Parker might not be good enough to carry the team but they are long, active and can counter the perimeter shooters Orlando brings to the table. Did you see JJ pester Lewis all night long? Leon Powe could also be an asset in the post season. He was a pretty significant contributor for Boston when they won it all.

The Cavs are a different team this year. Shaq’s given them a physical presence they sorely lacked when Big Z was the primary center.

I think you should stick to your driveway because much like the machine you opened with, you blow.
Steve Croyle

Dublin, OH

#11 Feb 12, 2010
John wrote:
The Cavs will lose in the playoffs. Last year nobody saw the matchup problems looming with Orlando until after the fact. This year it will be something else. Lebron will leave Cleveland and the Cavs will relocate to Seattle.
People saw those problems all year and it was talked about at length by analysts. Everybody said that the Cavs couldn't match up on the perimeter against Orlando.

LeBron will not leave Cleveland. The Cavs have the best record in the NBA. Dan Gilbert has proven that he is willing to spend money to win and Danny Ferry is a deft GM who knows how to broker deals. The Cavs have gotten better every year and this summer they will be able to offer James the best contract on the market because of the exception clause. So if LeBron leves he has to take less money. That would make sense if he wants to go to a better team but it's hard to find a better team. Any club that you can make an argument for already has a super star and can't offer James the max. Three teams seem to have pieces in place to make multiple title runs over the next 5 to 7 years: LA, Denver and Cleveland.

You're much more likely to see the Cavs make a splash this summer and pair James up with a beast like Chris Bosh or D-Wade. Wade would probably take a cut in pay to come to Cleveland and play with Bron, Bosh not so much.

Since: Apr 08

Akron, Ohio

#13 Feb 12, 2010
James would not go to Miami to play 2nd fiddle.

Wade would have to come here.

Don't really think Bosh wants to leave Toronto. IMO
Cavs Fan

United States

#14 Feb 12, 2010
Steve Croyle wrote:
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You're much more likely to see the Cavs make a splash this summer and pair James up with a beast like Chris Bosh or D-Wade. Wade would probably take a cut in pay to come to Cleveland and play with Bron, Bosh not so much.
You're dreaming. The Cavs won't have any cap space to sign both LeBron and the top free agents ... take a "pay cut"? Why don't you quit picking on the columnists and stick to whatever you do because you don't have a clue about the NBA salary structure.

The Cavs will only get a 'beast' player through trades. They have expiring contracts in Shaq, Z and the odd Wally sign-and-trade potential. They would somehow have to cut the payroll to about 30-35 million (never gonna happen and still have a decent team) to get two players like LeBron and Wade together.

They clearly do need Shaq even at his age and even Brian Windhorst who is one of the best beat writers in the league said Shaq made some pretty dumb mistakes last night.

Stan Van Gundy and the Magic players really screwed up by not going to Howard in the 4th quarter when the game was on the line. It was obvious Cleveland was in trouble but then Shaq made some good plays and LeBron did what he does. D West also had some terrific minutes there at the end. Orlando was also probably starting to feel the effects of 5 games in 7 nights and back to back and losing an hour.
don

Bacolod City, Philippines

#15 Feb 12, 2010
so if dont need the snowblower so go a head and find your self a shovel and found out that you will need xtra power and also a lot of manpower to back it up heheheh lol
kenmore

Barberton, OH

#16 Feb 13, 2010
Let's hope Mr. Powe can put up some boston like numbers. All the way around that is a very deep lineup.
Why

Columbus, OH

#17 Feb 13, 2010
I shed several tears after reading this article. It truly tug at my heartstrings when I thought about the NBA lifestyle of strippers, parties, trains, and drugs and alcohol. Keep up the good work role models of America!!!

“The One, The True”

Since: Dec 09

Creation

#18 Feb 13, 2010
Why wrote:
I shed several tears after reading this article. It truly tug at my heartstrings when I thought about the NBA lifestyle of strippers, parties, trains, and drugs and alcohol. Keep up the good work role models of America!!!
NBA lifestyle? Sounds like an average Monday up here in heaven. At least for me. I am a nasty God.

“The One, The True”

Since: Dec 09

Creation

#19 Feb 13, 2010
Cavs Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
You're dreaming. The Cavs won't have any cap space to sign both LeBron and the top free agents ... take a "pay cut"? Why don't you quit picking on the columnists and stick to whatever you do because you don't have a clue about the NBA salary structure.
The Cavs will only get a 'beast' player through trades. They have expiring contracts in Shaq, Z and the odd Wally sign-and-trade potential. They would somehow have to cut the payroll to about 30-35 million (never gonna happen and still have a decent team) to get two players like LeBron and Wade together.
They clearly do need Shaq even at his age and even Brian Windhorst who is one of the best beat writers in the league said Shaq made some pretty dumb mistakes last night.
Stan Van Gundy and the Magic players really screwed up by not going to Howard in the 4th quarter when the game was on the line. It was obvious Cleveland was in trouble but then Shaq made some good plays and LeBron did what he does. D West also had some terrific minutes there at the end. Orlando was also probably starting to feel the effects of 5 games in 7 nights and back to back and losing an hour.
D-Wade already said he'd be willing to take a pay cut to play with LeBron. That might be idle talk because it's hard to pass on the millions when it's time to put pen to paper. Apparently I need to work my 10% tithes into these contracts because none of these athletes come forth with the money they owe.

Since: Apr 08

Akron, Ohio

#20 Feb 13, 2010
kenmore wrote:
Let's hope Mr. Powe can put up some boston like numbers. All the way around that is a very deep lineup.
Having both Mo and Delonte out enabled the bench to get a lot more minutes. And the sweetness lies in the fact that the Cavs didn't miss a beat racking up 13 wins as of late.
Yes, you are right. Cavs are deep, very deep. I'd say they are 15 deep. Which is why I'm not crazy about all the trade rumors. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
llil91

Madison, AL

#21 Feb 13, 2010
to be honest dont really just count da magic like becaus they stayed wit the cavs much through the game an took like 8pt lead over the cavs in the 4thqtr..

Since: Apr 08

Akron, Ohio

#22 Feb 13, 2010
llil91 wrote:
to be honest dont really just count da magic like becaus they stayed wit the cavs much through the game an took like 8pt lead over the cavs in the 4thqtr..
By all means, the Cavs are not discounting the Magic. At 7:48 left to go in the 4th qtr the game was tied at 94. It's the last minutes that count the most and Cavs own 4th quarters.
Max in Missouri

Alton, IL

#23 Feb 13, 2010
"Essentially, Cleveland did it without the guy they thought they needed to do it."

You've lost all credibility

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