Jackson leads Warriors into second round

Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson shot the ragtag Warriors right into the second round, capping perhaps the NBA's biggest playoff upset with yet one more memorable performance on their home floor. Full Story
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GSW Fan

Fremont, CA

#21 May 4, 2007
Real Issue wrote:
Everyone knows Jackson can get hot sometimes as a lot of other players do the same. I think he has shown his true nature on and off the court and will continue to do the same. How many people get ejected in 2 playoff games in the same series? Not exactly someone I would call a star much less a respectable player. The down side of this is more and more 'kids' are coming into the NBA with very little respect for the game or the team image. I think we will see more Jackson type players unless the NBA really cracks down on this kind of thing.
I bet Jackson can't punt the ball higher than Chuck Person.
The 2nd ejection was bogus and that's why the league was not punishing Jax. And actually, that ref should be punished like Joey Crawford for making crazy technical calls.
Jtrincad

La Crescenta, CA

#22 May 4, 2007
Pacers didn't make a mistake in dumping Jackson; he wasn't working for them. Jackson is like Bonzi Wells and Tim Thomas, great in the playoffs, but too easily distracted during the regular season.

The mistake the Pacers made was picking up Dungina and Murphy, two overpaid, overrrated draft busts.

I'm actually a Lakers fan. What would it take to pry JO from the pacers? Would a trade of Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, and Kwame Brown (one year expiring contract) for JO and Jeff Foster work?
Golden State Fan

Sunnyvale, CA

#23 May 4, 2007
Jtrincad wrote:
Pacers didn't make a mistake in dumping Jackson; he wasn't working for them. Jackson is like Bonzi Wells and Tim Thomas, great in the playoffs, but too easily distracted during the regular season.
The mistake the Pacers made was picking up Dungina and Murphy, two overpaid, overrrated draft busts.
I'm actually a Lakers fan. What would it take to pry JO from the pacers? Would a trade of Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, and Kwame Brown (one year expiring contract) for JO and Jeff Foster work?
Off course it will work, but just throw in someone they can relate to. How about you sign Madsen back and throw in that trade. Actually, you can keep Odom, they have dunleavy there.

Don't you know, We got Al and Stephen Jackson for Murphy, Dunleavy, two players the community can relate.
GSW Fan

Fremont, CA

#24 May 4, 2007
Jtrincad wrote:
Pacers didn't make a mistake in dumping Jackson; he wasn't working for them. Jackson is like Bonzi Wells and Tim Thomas, great in the playoffs, but too easily distracted during the regular season.
The mistake the Pacers made was picking up Dungina and Murphy, two overpaid, overrrated draft busts.
I'm actually a Lakers fan. What would it take to pry JO from the pacers? Would a trade of Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, and Kwame Brown (one year expiring contract) for JO and Jeff Foster work?
The reason Jax didn't work well with Pacers was not totally his fault. The Pacers is dysfunctional like the GSW up to a year ago prior to Nellie's return. The Pacers didn't like their coach. The front office was making bad moves. There was no trust. Tim Tuncan called Jax the ultimate team player. He is an emotional guy that would do anything for the people he trusts. Not that it was a good move for him, but he went into the Detroit brawl to defend his teammates. Again, it wasn't a smart thing for him to do but the Pacers fans didn't understand him. At GSW, the players love Nellie. Led by Baron Davis, everyone plays on the same page. Jax said he would put his life in the hands of Nellie and BD and that's why it works out for him in GSW and not the Pacers.
Funny

Dallas, TX

#25 May 4, 2007
James wrote:
Comments like the above who want winners no matter what kind of men they are is a bunch of crap! The NBA is fast becoming "street ball" played by thugs that cannot be made into good citizens by anyone. The comment that Jackson hasn't been in Oakland even a year yet is right on the money. Give him 2 or 3 more years and you will see his true character come out. And, of course, Harrington showed himself as usual --- disappearing in the playoffs. We saw that when he was in Indiana. Given all that, I was glad to see the Warriors beat the Mavs. It couldn't happen to a better owner! I loved it when the camera focused on Mark Cuban and you saw the look on his face. Too bad, billionaire Mark! Your team lost big time! There is no way Dirk Nowitski should be league MVP. MVP's will their teams to win. Dirk cannot do that. If the Warriors keep playing at this level, they will beat either Houston or Utah. They probably can't beat the Suns or Spurs, but it will be a great ride.
James, I can't explain what happened this post season but I can confidently say that Dirk is capable of willing his way to a win, he proved it last year in the post season series against the Suns and the Spurs.
Funny

Dallas, TX

#26 May 4, 2007
GSW Fan wrote:
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Hey Funny, you are really funny. Apparently, you didn't get your information from neutral sources like the Wall Street Journals. You have read too much info fed to you by another funny guy named Cuban.
As the WSJ mentioned, the rift between Cuban and Nellie started when Nellie refused to play the injured Norwizki for fear of ending his career. Cuban couldn't careless about the players so he tried to force Nellie to play him. Nellie threw him out of his office. Then there was no turning around.
Cuban signed Finney and had no money to resign Nash. Nellie was really upset. And when you are as old as Nellie and with your 3 coach of the year awards and a stupid owner, there's no more fun to work in Dallas anymore.
These are the facts reported by WSJ, not from your Dallas media.
Didn't get what information from a neutral source?

Here's the trade:
Stephen Jackson Al Harrington and reserves Sarunas Jasikevicius and Josh Powell to Golden State for Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Ike Diogu and Keith McLeod. Let's take a look at some stats from the top 4 players in the trade from the 05-06 season.

to Golden State
Stephen Jackson: PPG 16.4 RPG 3.9 AAVG 2.8 SAVG 1.3 FG3 34.5% and .5 BLK per game
Al Harrington: PPG 18.6 RPG 6.9 AAVG 3.1 SAVG 1.1 FG3 34.6%

to Indiana
Mike Dunleavy: PPG 11.5 RPG 4.9 AAVG 2.9 SAVG 0.7 FG3 28.5%
Troy Murphy: PPG 14.0 RPG 10.0 AAVG 1.4 SAVG 0.6

Murphy's rebounds are great and all but Indiana already has solid rebounders. As I stated, it was pretty clear to me when the trade went down who benefitted the most.

As far as the "rift" between Cuban and Nellie, don't even pretend to act like you know exactly what the dispute is about. There are reporters here in Dallas who have covered the Mavs for 15 years that don't know exactly what went down, nobody but Mark Cuban and Don Nelson know that so don't even with your "WSJ" quote.

I can tell you what I do know. It is about money not whether Dirk played injured. How stupid is that presumption of yours? Yeah Cuban want's the face of his franchise who's just signed a 3 year 20 million dollar contract extension to just go out there and get hurt... No he doesn't care at all. Nellie ditched our team with a hand full of games left in the season and thats what I know. Also Cuban didn't run out of money as you state after he signed Finley, he simply made a business decision and didn't want to match the $65 million contract over five years Pheonix offered to sign Nash.

Cuban saved the Mavericks franchise and has made it one of the premier NBA sports franchises in North America. So enjoy that bandwagon your on and keep hating our owner because he loves this game, wants to be courtside every night and loves his team.
GSW Fan

Fremont, CA

#27 May 5, 2007
<to Golden State
Stephen Jackson: PPG 16.4 RPG 3.9 AAVG 2.8 SAVG 1.3 FG3 34.5% and .5 BLK per game
Al Harrington: PPG 18.6 RPG 6.9 AAVG 3.1 SAVG 1.1 FG3 34.6%

to Indiana
Mike Dunleavy: PPG 11.5 RPG 4.9 AAVG 2.9 SAVG 0.7 FG3 28.5%
Troy Murphy: PPG 14.0 RPG 10.0 AAVG 1.4 SAVG 0.6
>

I don't think you watch the Indiana games. You might be one of the stat guys. Did you know why Mully was stupid enough to sign DumbMurthy to fat long-term contracts. Because they padded up their stats against weak opponents at times. And also when they played against very bad teams, they showed "potential".

The truth is if DumbLeavy could score 15 points in a game against an average team. The guy he guards will probably get 25. And DumbLeavy can't shoot from long range consistently. So, the defenders can safely leave him and double team whoever the main guy is.

Troy is slightly better. He did get some decent rebounds. But he should be a 9th/10th player on a decent team.

But their contracts are a whopping combined 90mil. Again, Mully would have given them away for a burger and a bag of fries. GSW need the money to resign Ellis and Andre. And DumbMurthy will only plays 10 to 15 min a game on GSW even if we don't have Jax/Al. With Jax and Al, DumbMurthy wouldn't play more than a couple of min of garbage time.

DumbMurthy's contracts will haunt the Pacers for a long time to come. They are decent bench players that can give you 10 to 15 min a game, but not for 15 mil / yr together.
Ignorant

Atlanta, IN

#28 May 5, 2007
People quit trying to act like you are glad we got rid of Jackson because now the pacers are respectable or something. They are still thought of a thugs, that didn't change. But we did go from thugs that would make the postseason to lottery bound thugs.

And the very notion that he was traded because of character is just nonsense, he was traded because JO is the only one in these parts that is allowed to shoot the ball 10 times a game. Al and Harrington got shipped out, and Tinsley probably couldn't be moved.
El-Cheapo

Burlington, Canada

#29 May 7, 2007
Remember Steve Nash and Mike Finley? Our great owner would not sign them? He went on and sign those slow poke over the hill players.. What a crap team!

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