Pacers deter Mavericks' run

Pacers deter Mavericks' run

There are 72 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Nov 23, 2007, titled Pacers deter Mavericks' run. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

It's no secret the run was going to come. The Dallas Mavericks, one of the best teams in the NBA, had overcome double-figure deficits to pull out victories in their past two games.

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Dave

United States

#21 Nov 24, 2007
Randy wrote:
I was at this game. It was terrific almaost like a playoff game. All of the players played very hard. The key to this win was Tinsley. I have never been a big fan of Tinsley but if he continues to play like last night I will be a major fan. Go Pacers continue to play hard and good things happen.
Randy, Randy, Randy,

That's the whole issue with Tinsley. We NEVER know when he's going to show up and play. Tinsley is the #1 reason I refuse to watch the Pacers. He is a nightmare waiting to happen.
Shawn Rodgers

United States

#22 Nov 24, 2007
If JO would have played last night with the game on the line he would have wanted the ball in his hands so he could get it stolen, blocked, or just plain miss it badly and the Mavs would have won. The Pacers do not need him and his salary any more.

Heck of an effort! Go Pacers!!
tim k

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Nov 24, 2007
jermaine should be traded they play better and faster without him in the lineup.
PacerMateFan

AOL

#24 Nov 24, 2007
Let's hope O'Neal sits for a long time. Winning without him.
Rick

United States

#25 Nov 24, 2007
I wonder if O'Neal will play much this season with his injuries.
Barry

United States

#26 Nov 24, 2007
PacerMateFan wrote:
Let's hope O'Neal sits for a long time. Winning without him.
How many sick days do the Pacers get?
tinsley_the_man

Orlando, FL

#27 Nov 24, 2007
salute Tinsley.....he is the man making all of this happen....and he's taking all of the other point guards to school.
itsalldownhill

Lima, OH

#28 Nov 24, 2007
violet palmer: you stink!
Dungy ball

Cincinnati, OH

#29 Nov 24, 2007
How about Foster? He was tremendous on both ends. Plus, if you watched or heard him barking out assignments and talking to the other players during free throws then you can surmize that he has taken a whole new role with this team....Leader!!! AND...he leads by example to boot. During the post game interview he pointed out one thing that makes a big difference when this team wins....and that was Tinsley's defensive EFFORT. Foster pointed out that when Jamal stops dribble penetration then the whole unit is better off. I could not agree more. If...and that is a big IF...Jamal plays with that type of defensive effort then this team can be pretty darn good. We'll see.

As far as O'Neal, I have to agree that we should move him for some sort of value in return. It won't gut or hurt this team at all. Harrison, Foster, Diogu and Murphy play much better when they get the minutes. This was tough for me to come to realize because I remember what a defensive player O'Neal was just a couple of years ago. Plus, he was a beast offensively then too. It's not working with this team and specifically from a chemistry standpoint.
jermaine oneal

Indianapolis, IN

#30 Nov 24, 2007
see, what did i say gang? i said it. if i didnt play we stood a good chance of either winning or losing very close. but the ladder part of it all is that we won w/out any of my contributions. i can guarantee ya this, if I would of played, we would of gotten crushed. so hopefully larry and donnie recognize now that we beat one of the elite teams in the nba w/out me. hopefully i can remain on the bench so i can continue to see how far we truly can progress and hopefully i can get traded somewhere along the line.
Adam

Springfield, IL

#31 Nov 24, 2007
So the "O'neal sits out" article makes the front headline for several hours the day of the game, but then when the Pacers go on to beat one of the league's best, it's hardly even noticeable on the front page? Good job IndyStar... we see where your agenda lies.
Colt45

United States

#32 Nov 24, 2007
pacemaker wrote:
really pippin no good? what about that mvp he got the season jordan retired? or the one game he was away from the nba finals with half a team and no jordan?
nice try.
Scottie Pippen never won the MVP...
Adam

Springfield, IL

#33 Nov 24, 2007
Mike in NC wrote:
JO is a waste as a franchise player. He is like Scottie Pippen - who looked "all world" when he was on a team with Michael Jordan, but was a different player when traded and expected to carry the team as the leader. JO cannot do this, just like Pippen could not. JO looked incredible when he had some great players around him to keep everyone honest - when he is the main option (and everyone knows it) he cannot get it done. Trade him while you can get some value - let the team run a wide open offense, and watch the fun.
To be fair, the Bulls were not a bad team when Jordan left the first time and Pippen took over. As I recall, Pippen became the first player in league history (I think) to lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocked shots in a single season.
jermaine oneal

Indianapolis, IN

#34 Nov 24, 2007
lonely fan in the Lou wrote:
We need all our players to meet every situation ahead. Let's not sell JO or anyone else short. Look at the big picture and keep your eyes on the ultimate prize. Negativity never wins!
we dont win when i play. where have you been?
jermaine oneal

Indianapolis, IN

#35 Nov 24, 2007
pacemaker wrote:
really pippin no good? what about that mvp he got the season jordan retired? or the one game he was away from the nba finals with half a team and no jordan?
nice try.
yeah but no championship. while individual awards are nice, it doesnt win championships. nice try.
Adam

Springfield, IL

#36 Nov 24, 2007
Maxx wrote:
I think it's time for the NBA to institute some type of challenge system. Like in the NFL.
That call against Harrison when he blocked a basket by Nowitzki was off the mark when you look at the replay. Harrison clearly made a clean block and the refs made the wrong call.
Bit, I doubt that the great tzar Stern will ever let that happen while he sits on the throne.
Yeah the refs were pretty horrible.. they had bad calls both ways. The Harrison block on Nowitzski was clearly all ball. Plus there was the one where they were trying to call the foul on Tinsley but they assessed it to Dunleavy and no one noticed. And to the Mavs' credit, the play where Avery Johnson got tossed (where Tinsley fouled Devin Harris on the break) clearly should have been called a shooting foul - he had a legit complaint :)
Adam

Springfield, IL

#37 Nov 24, 2007
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Randy, Randy, Randy,
That's the whole issue with Tinsley. We NEVER know when he's going to show up and play. Tinsley is the #1 reason I refuse to watch the Pacers. He is a nightmare waiting to happen.
He's been the key to the team recently. If he keeps playing like this all season we'll be in the playoffs. He didn't have quite as good of a floor game last night as the preceding 3 games (he had 36 assists to 5 turnovers coming in), but still was key for us down the stretch.
The Truth

Michigan City, IN

#38 Nov 24, 2007
Coach O'Brien: See how much better we compete without Jermaine O'Neal? Are you starting to believe what every knowledgeable Pacers fan around here has been saying for years?
truthseeker

Girard, OH

#39 Nov 24, 2007
Train wrote:
Is it just me or do the Pacers look much better in the games that JO is out compared to when he plays?
Food for thought.
I think guys just stand around and wait for him to do something instead of play as a team when he is out.
The Truth

Michigan City, IN

#40 Nov 24, 2007
Coach O'Brien: See how much better we compete without Jermaine O'Neal? Are you starting to believe what every knowledgeable Pacers fan around here has been saying for the number of years we have either not made or performed poorly in the playoffs?

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