Timberwolves clear the air in team meeting, say they're determined to finish strong

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The Timberwolves made one more attempt Saturday to salvage something positive out of a disappointing season.

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The Hard Truth

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Feb 26, 2011
 
Here's the question: Did Rambis talk about HIS performance to the team, or is his cheeseball Zen mini-me act give him a free pass on accountability.

My recommendation would be for him to say, "I obviously am not up to the job and have screwed you guys over. I'm sorry. If you guys want me to stay, I'll listen more and do my best. If you want me to leave, I'm man enough to do so."

Fat chance.
fracas

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Feb 27, 2011
 
I was thinking along the same lines as THT, Rambis needs to analyze his own performance as do the players. While it is the players that play the game, it is Rambis' job to prepare the team to play, and then to manage the game. I think he has fallen short on both counts.

Some other random thoughts; Darko needs to play "stronger" with the ball as he gets stripped WAY to often, and rarely dunks the ball even when presented with an easy opportunity. Dude, you are seven feet tall and weigh 260 lbs., don't be such a Miss Prissy.

Another; The wolves aren't going to win games on a consistent basis until they value taking care of the ball, nor until they value playing defense as much as they care about scoring, or garnering another rebound. Careless entry passes, and lazy crosscourt passes, have almost become the norm with this team. I don't mean to pick on Beasley and Love, but it certainly appears that Beasley enjoys scoring, and Love enjoys getting another rebound, more than either one enjoys getting a defensive stop.

Maybe this meeting gets players fired up for a game or two, but I think this team is in a flat spin that only ends when the season does.
The Hard Truth

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Feb 27, 2011
 
Well, Fracas, you and I are the only one's here, so let me ask you a question (I'd love for someone else to chime in, too): with Laimbeer, one of the nastiest inside players ever to set foot on an NBA floor, as an assistant coach, why is Darko playing so soft? Why is he doing nothing other than putting the ball on the floor so it can be stolen by the opposition? Why does he have no move other than "thump, thump, push, push, left handed baby hook"? It seems he had more moves last year than this.

When I think of what Al Jefferson could do in the low post, I shake my head. Al was a black hole, but at least he put the ball in the hoop. Darko, who was supposed to be this great facilitator who would make the infamous triangle hum, has proven to be nothing more than another black hole who can't even score.

What happened? What's going on?
Joshua

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Feb 27, 2011
 
THT - the answer to the Darko question is the same reason Rambis has nothing to apologize for. Coaches can only coach: players have to execute. If Lambeer could GIVE Darko some guts, he would. That cat just doesn't have it in him. That's fine, the league doesn't have a lot of servicable big men available, and certainly not to us, so we have to roll with Darko, and his faults. One of which is if he starts failing, he snowballs. I will take that over Al jefferson any day of the week. Al stalls drives, had one of the highest usages and the lowest win shares in the league for a starter. We are better off without him.

As for Rambis, what was he supposed to do? 9 new faces this year. 9! Of course he is going to have a long rotation, he doesn't have any go to guys yet. Of course the team is going to have trouble finishing games, they don't know who to lean on. Talent alone doesn't win games, time does. These kids need the time to get on the same page. The last thing they need is a new coach, and a new system, and to start the whole thing over again.

Look, we are all sick of losing. But we don't start winning by demanding heads on a stick every year. We have had enough turn over. Give this thing time to marinate before we decide how it tastes.
wolvesfan

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Feb 27, 2011
 
Joshua - Well said!!! Great post and answer to THT. Darko is an example of leading a horse to water, but not being able to make him drink. He HAS to know how to play by now - he is just refusing to do it, even though we know he can. I don't think benching him will motivate him. I think his teammates have push him to be more aggressive.

Please - don't tell me how much better Jefferson was - I will live with Darko rather than Big Al.

In particular, I agree with the last two paragraphs of J's. If you expected this team to win 40 games this year you were smoking something besides a Marlboro! You don't expect a one year old to be able to do what a 10 year old can do. Not even a 5 year old - which is what a lot of teams in the NBA are. No other team is as young in years or in experience playing together.

I have been disappointed in the last few games where I felt they weren't trying. Tonight's game was a lot better. They got down, but fought back and hung on even when GS made a run at the end. Wes Johnson is going to be a star one of these days!
fracas

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Feb 27, 2011
 
The Hard Truth wrote:
Well, Fracas, you and I are the only one's here, so let me ask you a question (I'd love for someone else to chime in, too): with Laimbeer, one of the nastiest inside players ever to set foot on an NBA floor, as an assistant coach, why is Darko playing so soft? Why is he doing nothing other than putting the ball on the floor so it can be stolen by the opposition? Why does he have no move other than "thump, thump, push, push, left handed baby hook"? It seems he had more moves last year than this.
When I think of what Al Jefferson could do in the low post, I shake my head. Al was a black hole, but at least he put the ball in the hoop. Darko, who was supposed to be this great facilitator who would make the infamous triangle hum, has proven to be nothing more than another black hole who can't even score.
What happened? What's going on?
I think a large part of Darko's problem is that Darko doesn't know who he is, in a basketball sense. I think Darko views himself as a basketball version of a Swiss army knife, good at a little of this, and a little of that. The trouble is that Darko doesn't handle the ball well enough for as often as he tries to turn right shoulder and launch that hook from the middle of the lane, so he gets stripped by help defenders. Darko has some nice passing skills and should pass out of the double team as soon as he recognizes that it is coming, instead of trying to get his little hook off. Plus, the dude can't shoot a lick, which doesn't help.

Look at Pek. Pek knows who he is and doesn't try to do anything that involves more than one dribble (to get better position), then seeks contact and puts the ball on the glass, hoping for a bucket, or perhaps an "and one". You don't see Pek do much other than set screens and then seek low post position, usually on the right block.

Maybe Darko ends up being a better player in the next three years of his contract, but I fear that what we see now is what we are going to have, a big dude with an interest in shot blocking, but a turnover waiting to happen on offense. Plus he will probably continue to be a good teammate, and a good guy in the community.
The Hard Truth

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Feb 27, 2011
 
A nice thread, guys. There aren't many of us, but at least we're thinking and trying.
wolvesfan

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Feb 27, 2011
 
I agree that this is a nice thread with no one making stupid comments such as "Didn't know MN had an NBA team," etc.. Good to just talk basketball!
mike

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Feb 28, 2011
 

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i didn't know mn had an nba team.
fracas

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Sorry Mike, I had to vote "clueless" as there was not one that said "stupid comments". I just can't believe that it took 10.5 hours for someone to come up with that one.

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