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There are 49 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 10, 2010, titled Go ahead and bash James, but others deserve blame, too | The Columb.... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

After LeBron James turned Cleveland inside out with his decision to leave, a James poster ended up where lots of Cavaliers fans would love to stuff him.

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Rat Fink

Ashland, OH

#1 Jul 10, 2010
The truth is that we have to move on. Plain and simple. It's done. Like the lover who left you and is now dating someone else, Cavs fans have to get used to seeing LBJ snogging Miami. History. Overwith. And now that the booze has worn off (he had to have been drunk when he wrote that letter), maybe Dan can get the salvage crews working. I will never apologize for being a Cleveland sports fan; I think we're among the most loyal anywhere. However, we have to admit we were James's sycophants for too long...and we were in good company. Onward.
Embarrassing Oller post

Columbus, OH

#2 Jul 10, 2010
Oh please! James quit in game 5 during the NBA playoffs. Worse, is that same game 5 was the last game for James in a Cleveland uniform. Seven full seasons and he won how many championships??? As for Dan Gilbert. He is what most people would want to work for. Dan Gilbert is simply a man who wont settle for second place in anything he does, and wont let his employees settle for second either!! His empassioned letter to fans shows he cares about his city and his team. He made on one bad comment in the whole thing, and that was his promise to win a championship before quitter James. The television hour that ESPN gave him, that was nothing more that an infomercial for ESPN and Quitter James. ESPN lied about what time he was going to state his choice, they lied about several other parts of this charade. This whole thing could have been wrapped up in less than ten minutes, and should have been. What a total embarrassment that anyone chose to air that and anyone chose to report on it. Your article is an embarrassment to anyone who calls them self a fan. Being a fan..... is why we are all so tied up in wins and loses, why we scream for our favorite players, and weep when our favorite player leaves town. We, as fans, are totally invested in our teams. Being a fan is why we spend our money and time going to games, buying sweaters, coats, jerseys and all that stuff. Without the fans like us, James is just another common man, and more likely just another poor black man. Maybe you should try being a fan before you write more. How embarrassing!!!!!!!!!!
Fans

Columbus, OH

#3 Jul 10, 2010
Remember one thing. There is no NBA, NFL, NHL, NASCAR, MLS.....without the fans, the fans are the ones paying the bills for these players. We are the ones paying for the television cable packages that provide all these dollars to teams for each sport's TV contracts. Without us, there would not be professional sports. These pro athletes would not have jobs without the fans. Fan is short for fanatic.
The Rational One

United States

#4 Jul 10, 2010
Oller misses one very important point. LeTraitor was born and raised in Akron. He was basically a home town hero playing for a contender.

If LeDramaQueen had been from Florida or even from North Dakota the hurt would not be nearly as bad. He turned his back on his hometown and showed the fans his middle finger for an hour while he walked away.

If LeQuitter had simply announce his moved to the Heat via a press release that too would have made it less hurtful. Instead, he rubbed Cleveland's nose in his excrement and for that northeast Ohio will never forget.

And good for Dan Gilbert for showing some passion. I totally understand.
Matt

Medina, OH

#5 Jul 10, 2010
James is being blamed for the way he handled his parting of the ways. So HE has no one but to blame for himself. He's an arrogant and narcistic person, Hope Miami has a big and a pacifier because they are gonna need it. Wait till he blows them off, it'll happen.
Dan Gilbert should have said something way before now since LJ did quit in the games mentioned. He threw temper tantrums, yet at the time the media put him on a pedestal. Truth is out now, the James
will have to be a team player now, can he handle not being number one with the guys.
dave in Columubus

Springfield, OH

#6 Jul 10, 2010
Just another reason to not watch or even care about the NBA. I gave up on it years ago. The sporting ethics were taken out of it years ago. Criminals and money hungry beasts are now on the courts. How many millions do you need to make you happy.
Lfod

Defiance, OH

#7 Jul 10, 2010
The Rational One wrote:
Oller misses one very important point. LeTraitor was born and raised in Akron. He was basically a home town hero playing for a contender.
If LeDramaQueen had been from Florida or even from North Dakota the hurt would not be nearly as bad. He turned his back on his hometown and showed the fans his middle finger for an hour while he walked away.
If LeQuitter had simply announce his moved to the Heat via a press release that too would have made it less hurtful. Instead, he rubbed Cleveland's nose in his excrement and for that northeast Ohio will never forget.
And good for Dan Gilbert for showing some passion. I totally understand.
Gilbert had NO PROBLEM trying to get Tom Izzo to DUMP michigan State.
Lebron SHOULD have left at his last contract.He could have made more money and had rings. He CARRIED the team for 7 years and all he gets for help is an over the hill Shaq. His NBA salery in Florida plus endorsements wILL NOT HAVE A STATE INCOME TAX there. This was a solid bussness descison by a very mature professional! You nor any other "fan"own any player. GROW UP!
Fern

Wapakoneta, OH

#8 Jul 10, 2010
No Florida State Income Tax is a key factor. James made and extra 12 million by heading to Florida a.la. Tiger and anyone making huge money. Thank the blue state mentality of Ohio's Gov't. tax tax tax tax.......Like a New Jersey, the big money will leave the state.
Fan No More

Columbus, OH

#9 Jul 10, 2010
The king is dead - the NBA is a joke - wrestling is better entertainmnet
Native cleavlander

Columbus, OH

#10 Jul 10, 2010
As I see it, there are a lot of ways to look at our loss of LBJ. It's sad he's no longer on our team as it was great to see him play and it was great to watch him win games. He helped to put some shine and pride in Cleveland and in Ohio, something we sorely needed and still need. But Rob Oller is right. Cleveland is a hard sell and always will be. I love the place and I know it has a lot to offer, but it's not a glam-city or an economic powerhouse, and probably won't be again in any of our lifetimes. We need to look at the positives and work to makes those better and do our best to make our city and state as attractive as possible and enjoy our sports teams despite their limited potential... kind of like Cubs fans do. We have a beautiful lake, very cool ethnic neighborhoods, and rich industrial past, old money, some excellent health care and universities and some nice (if not excellent) sports teams. Too bad Cleveland is not a championship city. Too bad we lost our potential champion in LBJ. We still have a lot, we still have a proud history and a bright future. We just have to remember our past and work to make a better future.
I say rally around the Buckeyes, in part because of how OSU sets priorities, they are a championship team with longstanding potential that anyone in Ohio can enjoy and celebrate. And be happy when the Indians, Cavs, Browns, Reds, and Bengals win... we can't expect championships but victories, when the come, are always sweet.
Also, yeah LBJ let us down and the whole process of his leaving was F-ed up, and that hurts at the moment, but he will always be an Ohioan and he's going to be an awesome champion because he's an awesome player. He was awesome when he played for us and it's unlikey we can really pin the whole loss to the Celtics on him. No one can fairly deny that.

“The One, The True”

Since: Dec 09

Creation

#11 Jul 10, 2010
You're a blithering idiot. Everybody knows that sports heroes aren't vitally important. I get so tired of the "real hero" tangent. It's a cheap way to get people to agree with you because nobody would ever say that mothers, doctors, soldiers, cops, firemen or teachers aren't important. What you fail to understand is that nobody would ever pay $65 to watch any of those people do their job and even if some loser out there claims they would, you'd never pack a 22,000 seat arena with like-minded people night after night.

People are upset with LeBron because he made the choice to leave and announced it in a very self-indulgent manner. THey'll get over it. I don't know if you'll get over being such a pompous dork.
Clint

Gallipolis, OH

#12 Jul 10, 2010
Yep .... The State of Ohio loved LeBron James but forgot he was just a million dollar kid playing NBA basketball . LeBron left the City that adored him for fun in the sunshine and friends on the Miami Heats Team which a 25 year old person would do .... The NBA is made up of millionaires and some who are only teenagers ....LOL
Country Blumpkin

New York, NY

#13 Jul 10, 2010
Ask Delonte West why James left. He knows why.

Since: Oct 09

Columbus, OH

#14 Jul 10, 2010
Traitor James is an a-hole, pure and simple. But he is a symptom, not the cause of the disease. The way some of the athletes are treated and given special treatment, they could care less about "the fans." But you'd think Traitor James would be different since he is from the area. I think their is collective agreement his on-hour special was ridiculous. He basically gave the finger to Cleveland. He has no loyalty to anyone but himself. He may know how to play basketball, but he still has a lot to learn about life and how to treat others. So, to Traitor James-go F-yourself and I hope the way you treated others comes back ten fold.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#15 Jul 10, 2010
Native cleavlander wrote:
As I see it, there are a lot of ways to look at our loss of LBJ. It's sad he's no longer on our team as it was great to see him play and it was great to watch him win games. He helped to put some shine and pride in Cleveland and in Ohio, something we sorely needed and still need. But Rob Oller is right. Cleveland is a hard sell and always will be. I love the place and I know it has a lot to offer, but it's not a glam-city or an economic powerhouse, and probably won't be again in any of our lifetimes. We need to look at the positives and work to makes those better and do our best to make our city and state as attractive as possible and enjoy our sports teams despite their limited potential... kind of like Cubs fans do. We have a beautiful lake, very cool ethnic neighborhoods, and rich industrial past, old money, some excellent health care and universities and some nice (if not excellent) sports teams. Too bad Cleveland is not a championship city. Too bad we lost our potential champion in LBJ. We still have a lot, we still have a proud history and a bright future. We just have to remember our past and work to make a better future.
I say rally around the Buckeyes, in part because of how OSU sets priorities, they are a championship team with longstanding potential that anyone in Ohio can enjoy and celebrate. And be happy when the Indians, Cavs, Browns, Reds, and Bengals win... we can't expect championships but victories, when the come, are always sweet.
Also, yeah LBJ let us down and the whole process of his leaving was F-ed up, and that hurts at the moment, but he will always be an Ohioan and he's going to be an awesome champion because he's an awesome player. He was awesome when he played for us and it's unlikey we can really pin the whole loss to the Celtics on him. No one can fairly deny that.
For being a "glam" city and having a "glam" coach, what does Miami really have to show? One championship in a city where English is barely spoken?
Blueline

Columbus, OH

#16 Jul 10, 2010
LeBron was gone no matter what Gilbert, the Cavs or the city of Cleveland offered up - he was clearly going to one of the so-called glamorous cities like Miami or New York. I feel bad for the people of Cleveland as the media have seized this opportunity to once again knock the city. I've not spent a ton of time there, but Cleveland seems like a decent town to me. This whole fisaco makes me appreciate Rick Nash a little more too - he could have bolted for a larger market, but has committed to stay with the small-market Jackets - hopefully he is rewarded with some playoff wins at some point.
Brian

Chillicothe, OH

#17 Jul 10, 2010
Embarrassing Oller post wrote:
Oh please! James quit in game 5 during the NBA playoffs. Worse, is that same game 5 was the last game for James in a Cleveland uniform. Seven full seasons and he won how many championships??? As for Dan Gilbert. He is what most people would want to work for. Dan Gilbert is simply a man who wont settle for second place in anything he does, and wont let his employees settle for second either!! His empassioned letter to fans shows he cares about his city and his team. He made on one bad comment in the whole thing, and that was his promise to win a championship before quitter James. The television hour that ESPN gave him, that was nothing more that an infomercial for ESPN and Quitter James. ESPN lied about what time he was going to state his choice, they lied about several other parts of this charade. This whole thing could have been wrapped up in less than ten minutes, and should have been. What a total embarrassment that anyone chose to air that and anyone chose to report on it. Your article is an embarrassment to anyone who calls them self a fan. Being a fan..... is why we are all so tied up in wins and loses, why we scream for our favorite players, and weep when our favorite player leaves town. We, as fans, are totally invested in our teams. Being a fan is why we spend our money and time going to games, buying sweaters, coats, jerseys and all that stuff. Without the fans like us, James is just another common man, and more likely just another poor black man. Maybe you should try being a fan before you write more. How embarrassing!!!!!!!!!!
"...another poor black man." ??
America the Beautiful, indeed.
Native cleavlander

Columbus, OH

#18 Jul 10, 2010
Blueline wrote:
LeBron was gone no matter what Gilbert, the Cavs or the city of Cleveland offered up - he was clearly going to one of the so-called glamorous cities like Miami or New York. I feel bad for the people of Cleveland as the media have seized this opportunity to once again knock the city. I've not spent a ton of time there, but Cleveland seems like a decent town to me. This whole fisaco makes me appreciate Rick Nash a little more too - he could have bolted for a larger market, but has committed to stay with the small-market Jackets - hopefully he is rewarded with some playoff wins at some point.
I live in Columbus now, and love following the Jackets. Nash is a great player and is loyal and seems more mature than LBJ is, but I have to admit, Nash is not as much fun to watch as LeBron was. Kevin Durant is loyal too, and if you think Cleveland is lacking, consider being a coveted millionare athelete and choosing to stay in Oklahoma City! LBJ is a bit immature and spoiled. That's not surprising give how much natural talent he has and how early he got the attention he got. Considering his background it's surprising he's gone this long without making the kinds of PR mistakes he's making now. He's not a complete sell-out, he's put in a lot of effort to work hard, train, prepare and improve his game. I'm sure it wasn't an easy choice and I'm sure he does have some loyalty in him. He's just driven more by winning, and perhaps by glam, than by loyality. Some people are like that. Some people want to win at all costs. He's paid the price of the wrath of Clevelanders to take that next step. Time will tell how it all plays out. I regret he's not one of us anymore and can't watch him on TV every night. He helped make Ohio winters tolerable.
Misplaced Priorities

Columbus, OH

#19 Jul 10, 2010
"Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." --- Psalm 146:3.

LeBron James is only a human being, a mortal man who has been blessed with exceptional athletic skills. Like all human beings he is not perfect. He has flaws.

He is not perfect! He has flaws just like you have flaws.

He is not GOD or a god! There is no god except GOD!

Love GOD with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength! If you do that, you will not be devastated or crushed by the faults of the gifted and talented humans who entertain you in this life.
Native cleavlander

Columbus, OH

#20 Jul 10, 2010
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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For being a "glam" city and having a "glam" coach, what does Miami really have to show? One championship in a city where English is barely spoken?
I've been to South Beach and also know midwesterners living in Miami that would love to return to the midwest, if only they could sell their house and business down there. Miami sparkles on the surface, but there's a lot of crime and financial problems down there. As as you mention, a lot of foreigners too. From what I gather, it's not the best place to raise kids.

LBJ will probably find life and the people down there a whole lot different than in NE Ohio. Perhaps with all the money he'll be making and games he'll be winning that won't matter so much.

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