This time, Bulls win in overtime

This time, Bulls win in overtime

There are 55 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 17, 2008, titled This time, Bulls win in overtime. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Derrick Rose converted a decisive three-point play in overtime, and Ben Gordon made a four-point play with 20.5 seconds left in regulation in the Bulls' 115-109 victory over the Los Angeles Clippers on ...

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Mike in South Loop

Chicago, IL

#1 Dec 17, 2008
It's hard to believe the sequence of the last two nights, but it proves how incapable this team is when Rose is not playing well, which despite his stats, he didn't.

http://stillbullishinchicago.blogspot.com/

And we've also learned that Tyrus Thomas may finally be becoming important to this team.
SRN

Asia/Pacific Region

#2 Dec 17, 2008
Quote from the story - "The Clippers also lost in overtime to Charlotte on Tuesday night.
The loss snapped the Clippers' winning streak at three. "
What is it? Did the Clippers lose in overtime Tuesday or did they snap a winning streak with a loss to the Bulls? Obviously the author mixed the two teams up with the first sentence. I think AP needs to fix its story...and the Tribune needs to review stories it posts on its website for accuracy!
Chris Carr

Chicago, IL

#3 Dec 17, 2008
another chance to get to .500 on friday nite...think they can do it?
Stephen

Houston, TX

#4 Dec 17, 2008
SRN wrote:
Quote from the story - "The Clippers also lost in overtime to Charlotte on Tuesday night.
The loss snapped the Clippers' winning streak at three. "
What is it? Did the Clippers lose in overtime Tuesday or did they snap a winning streak with a loss to the Bulls? Obviously the author mixed the two teams up with the first sentence. I think AP needs to fix its story...and the Tribune needs to review stories it posts on its website for accuracy!
Maybe they played a double header...

I don't know what to do about Ben Gordon now. I was ready to cast him off to anyone that would take him, but he has proven his value this season and he plays very well with Rose. Although, Gordon is still very selfish at moments and he is definitely looking for a payday. If nothing else, he should be great trade bait when the deadline rolls around. I don't think there is anyway the Bulls can give another guard the kind of money he is going to command.
Typical Sox Fan

Lisle, IL

#5 Dec 17, 2008
Chris Carr wrote:
another chance to get to .500 on friday nite...think they can do it?
Against Boston? Lol no.
Larry

Olympia Fields, IL

#6 Dec 17, 2008
I would rather see the Bulls dump some of these players like Gordon, Gooden, Hughes and Hinrich. I would ratrher see Rose develope and put some unselfish players around Rose because lets be honest this team is not going anywhere and this team plays god awful defense. I am starting to wonder if Vinny Del Negro team will ever play defense.
Mel

Chicago, IL

#7 Dec 17, 2008
The LA Clippers are somewhat like the Bulls. In their case they did get a low post scorer in Zach Randolph. He scored 30 pts. in the paint and on short jumpers against the Bulls. Derrick Rose would definitely not get double-teamed if the Bulls had that low post guy. Until the Bulls get low post scorer get used to games the Bulls will be struggling to win. On a good note, Noah brought some energy and rebounding while Deng's game was nonexistent.
Hilsto

Belvidere, IL

#8 Dec 17, 2008
I don't know why people call Gordon selfish. Perhaps if he was a point guard but he is a shooting guard on a team of poor shooters. Of course he is going to take shots. Guess what - he makes them too. His assists have actually been up this year (showing he isn't a black hole) and he has a good points per as well. What's the problem? Rose has to have someone to pass it to who can make shots from outside and help spread the court. That is why Rose/Gordon work so well together. We have a top 5 productive back court.

If our front court wasn't at the bottom of the league we'd be doing great. Don't break up the part that is working. Get rid of some guys with larger contracts (Hinrich, Noc, and/or Gooden) who still have some value around the league and get a serviceable big guy to tide us over and stop the bleeding. Once Larry gets off the books we will be in good shape to make a run for Bosh or one of the other key players who will be looking for a bigger market like Chicago to play in. If we can make Chicago attractive with Rose/Gordon/Deng and competitive by putting a bandaid on our front court then we will attract a player to go along with Rose. Getting Rose means we need to reevaluate the rest of the players and so far Gordon has been a big asset.
Hilsto

Belvidere, IL

#9 Dec 17, 2008
If there was anyone to be disappointed in so far this year it is Deng. He managed to avoid criticism despite being steamed poo for most of the season so far. He is the one with the contract. Its time for him to try to contribute in each quarter and not disappear. Gordon isn't allowed to have a bad possession without criticism but Deng gets to have a bad three months with hardly a notice.
Boston BullsFan

Tyngsboro, MA

#10 Dec 17, 2008
Good thing Bulls pulled this one out because it's quite likely they won't win another game for a week or more. They will now face teams that are either in first, second or third in good divisions.
Since the Bulls lost 2 games in the last week that they should have won, maybe it's possible they win a game or two in the next string, Detroit being the team I think they might beat since they have played a bit erratice and got blown out by bottom feeder Minnesota a week or so ago.

As for Gordon, it is clear that he plays well with Rose, but I would venture to guess that par tof our defensive liabilities are in the fact that Rose is a rookie and learning to play NBA level defense and Gordon is not a great defender. Add to that no one else on the team seems capable of playing solid D either. I just don't see how you can keep the guy after the team gave Deng a deal and not him. it looks like Pax made the deal with the wrong guy. Unless Deng turns it around and plays the second half strong I don't think anyone would miss the guy if he left.
John Starks

Crystal Lake, IL

#11 Dec 17, 2008
I can't believe the suddenly flagging appreciation for Luol. Where have you dorks and kiddies been? Forget building around this soft, inconsistent, did I say sissy of a small forward with the $75 million deal for about 7 years. How anyone in their right mind could honestly say this guy is worth the money or the years is beyond me. He must have some incriminating pictures of Paxson. None of these other guys is making a fraction of what Deng is stealing, yet this guy hardly shows up in most games, and he is allergic to any action near the rim. Rose gets more rebounds than our $70 million dollar man. Of course Ben Gordon should have been signed, not Deng. All the idiots who continuously give Gordon a hard time are blind; Gordon at 5-10 or 5-11 plays so much bigger than his height and has shown that he can adjust his game like he has this season to accommodate Rose's game. You jackals have been demonizing Ben and Larry when it is Deng who so royally deserves the roasting. Get rid of your beer goggles when watching the Bulls on the tube; that might help.
Greg

Orland Park, IL

#12 Dec 18, 2008
John Starks wrote:
I can't believe the suddenly flagging appreciation for Luol. Where have you dorks and kiddies been? Forget building around this soft, inconsistent, did I say sissy of a small forward with the $75 million deal for about 7 years. How anyone in their right mind could honestly say this guy is worth the money or the years is beyond me. He must have some incriminating pictures of Paxson. None of these other guys is making a fraction of what Deng is stealing, yet this guy hardly shows up in most games, and he is allergic to any action near the rim. Rose gets more rebounds than our $70 million dollar man. Of course Ben Gordon should have been signed, not Deng. All the idiots who continuously give Gordon a hard time are blind; Gordon at 5-10 or 5-11 plays so much bigger than his height and has shown that he can adjust his game like he has this season to accommodate Rose's game. You jackals have been demonizing Ben and Larry when it is Deng who so royally deserves the roasting. Get rid of your beer goggles when watching the Bulls on the tube; that might help.
"Gordon at 5-10 or 5-11..."
Gordon is listed as 6'-3".
Willie

Schaumburg, IL

#13 Dec 18, 2008
why trade gooden? he's an asset to this team. i got an idea for paxson! let gordon sign with some other team. when he becomes a superstar, trade nocioni, heinwreck and the joker for him. what a great idea, huh?
Kevin

Milwaukee, WI

#14 Dec 18, 2008
I'm tired of players complaining that Noc is flopping all the time. That play against Randolph was on obvious elbow/shoulder to the jaw. Opposing players should be happy because Noc's only defense is taking charges -- he's got nothing else, other than the occasional block (see against Kobe Bryant in 2008 Olympic semis, or last night in fourth quarter).
Tiffany

United States

#15 Dec 18, 2008
yeah,thats whats up,go bulls
Now Wait a Minute

Munster, IN

#16 Dec 18, 2008
1. The Bulls didn't play well last night. They got lucky, period. Maybe because Nocioni and Gordon made shots deeper than their range. You can't keep trying to do what didn't work for the past 4 years- this perimeter game. Keeping Gordon and Nocioni around just compounds the delay for the Bulls to start scheming as an intelligent team with passes down low and guys who can force the other team to put them on the foul line.
2. To those who don't understand why the majority of us bash Gordon- he is not the remedy. He plays desperation basketball while he is on the court. Has never liked setting up a scheme down low because he can't handle contact. He is a fringe player in more than one definition of the word.
Whatever goodness you get out of him is due to not wanting the kid to look better especially while he is on a salary drive- not because he wants to be altruistic.
JPH

Chicago, IL

#17 Dec 18, 2008
Boozer has announced he will test free agency after this season is over. He would be the guy to go after.
IF we could dump Hinrich Noce or Deng for a solid SF or C, then we would be able to pony up the bucks for Boozer.
Tiffany

United States

#18 Dec 18, 2008
well apparently they won in overtime so they must have been kicking a$$
Damani

Schaumburg, IL

#19 Dec 18, 2008
Our bigs made Zach Randolph look like Tim Duncan, or Kevin Garnett out there. If they went to him on the last shot of the game then we would be complaining about another loss!!! This guy has been available for two seasons before he was dealt to the Clippers!!!

At least Pax is talking to other teams, but he has been doing that for the last three years!!! All talks and no deals!!! Make it a good Christmas and get us a decent big man!!!
Puba

Northbrook, IL

#20 Dec 18, 2008
I think the biggest problem with Gordon is that he isn't really complete at either guard position. He plays a two's game on the offensive end, but there are very few two-guards who he can guard on the other end.

For a good team, with all the other pieces in place, he'd be a nice player to have coming off the bench-- an instant-offense guy, playing few enough minutes that he can't really hurt you on defense.

For the Bulls, who probably only have one or two pieces in place, he's a luxury.
Hilsto wrote:
I don't know why people call Gordon selfish. Perhaps if he was a point guard but he is a shooting guard on a team of poor shooters. Of course he is going to take shots. Guess what - he makes them too. His assists have actually been up this year (showing he isn't a black hole) and he has a good points per as well. What's the problem? Rose has to have someone to pass it to who can make shots from outside and help spread the court. That is why Rose/Gordon work so well together. We have a top 5 productive back court.

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