Room for a Bulls turnaround running out

Room for a Bulls turnaround running out

There are 32 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 9, 2008, titled Room for a Bulls turnaround running out. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Chris Duhon may be mired in a horrific shooting slump, but give the fourth-year guard major props for his dead-on assessment of the underachieving Bulls.

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Since: Jan 08

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Jan 9, 2008
Trade Gordon now. Then Heinrick. But first, fire the guy that drafted these second rate high draft choices. He brought in a coach that belittled Tyson Chandler and then he brings that great overused offensive threat who plays when he feels like it for $60M. When is Reiny going to get over his loyalty to this dog. Pippen is right. Paxson has been over his head from the start. Dump him and then his players.
MIGUEL

Sandwich, IL

#2 Jan 10, 2008
"I think we're still a good defensive team," Boylan said.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN BE A VERY GOOD DEFENSIVE TEAM WHEN THEY CAN WIN A GAME THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR HANDS. ITS TIME TO TRADE SOME OF THESE PLAYERS. THE BULLS ARE PLAYING LIKE A ROOKIE TEAM. THEY NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. THE BULLS AND THE MANAGEMENT SUCKS BIG TIME SO UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND NEXT YEAR I DOUBT IT TOO. FIRED PAXSON... THANX GOD I DIDNT PAY FOR SEASON TICKET. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WASTE OF MONEY
Bob Love

Bolingbrook, IL

#3 Jan 10, 2008
until this team gets inside scoreing, taller and more consistant guards, a center who scores more than 2 points a game and shows up every game.... the Bulls will never be a championship team. They need to pull off a deal like the Celtics did. Paxson failed us !
Patrick

United States

#6 Jan 10, 2008
Is Duhon ever capable of not being in a horrific shooting slump?
The team was overrated last year when they beat Miami and now everyone is wondering why they are underachieving? Newsflash...they are not underachieving. They have no talent. This team sucks. Nice job Pax, not sure why you're still employed.
Lou

United States

#7 Jan 10, 2008
History says Paxson's days are running out.
Marc

United States

#8 Jan 10, 2008
Yeah Jim Boylan, you go study film...as if that's going to help a pathetic team like this...so where are all the people who thought this was all Skiles fault? Where are all the people who thought this was a great young team that has to stay together? Don't hear much from them anymore...I think they started to live in reality...a push for the 8th spot in the East is the last thing the Bulls need to do...thankfully, that won't happen because of one simple issue...THIS BULLS TEAM IS HORRIBLE AND BOYLAN MAKES ZERO DIFFERENCE IN THE BIG PICTURE...I even put it in caps for the Bulls fans who think this young team is going to turn it around...NOT GONNA HAPPEN...LOL
Florida Jim

Altamonte Springs, FL

#9 Jan 10, 2008
Gordon says, "some teams we can definitely beat."
Wake-up, there are no teams you can definely beat. If you can't beat Knicks you are becomong the worst team in the league.
I wish they would bring back Skiles dump Wallace, Gordon, Deng and start over with players who hustle, play defense, work thew ball for the best shot and listen to Skiles, who only wants to help them improve. It is much more fun to watch teams that play teamwork at both ends of the floor , can stop teams and can follow preset plays to score. If Heinrich cannot pass like Nash dump him and get someone who will.
Troy

Foster City, CA

#10 Jan 10, 2008
Too bad the Bulls didn;t go through with the Kobe trade, maybe skiles would still have a job. But that is dust in the wind now that the lake show is back in L.A. and they are the 2nd best team in the west. My opinion is dump the over paid and overrated BIG BEN WALLACE. Make a trade get rid of Gordon for Bibby. we might have to many point gaurds then but Duhon, Heinrick, and Bibby can all play the #2 position just fine Heinrick would be the best fit there only on the deffence side of the ball
Hardliner

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Jan 10, 2008
Paxson did an exemplary job of cleaning up the perennial lottery bound mess of Jerry Krause. With that success though comes higher expectations and he and his team have not delivered. The good thing is that they some valuable individual players the problem is that together they are going nowhere fast. This team is not balanced. They can be rebuilt on the fly there is no need to think that it has to sink back into the lottery. It’s up to Paxson to earn his keep and get it done. Opportunities were there the last couple of years with Garnett clearly available as well as Gasol. Paxson blew those opportunities. You could bring back Red Auerbach from the grave to coach this team and the results would be the same. It’s not the coach it is the players. If Paxson can’t get it done its time to say thank you and goodbye. Reinsdrof didn’t hesitate to launch GM Larry Himes with the Sox when he felt he took them as far as they could go and he did the same with Doug Collins as coach.

Since: Apr 07

Bloomsburg, PA

#12 Jan 10, 2008
The Bulls' time ran out about 9 years ago.
mack the knife

Beirut, Lebanon

#13 Jan 10, 2008
Oh dear panic buttons but I must agree with most of the writers. Something needs to be done and the rookies and Thabo need to play. They cannot be as bad as the two Bens and Duhon...Pax must be held accountable for the Wallace trade....Tyson Chandler where are you???And where were your brains GM??

Since: Sep 07

Chicago, IL

#14 Jan 10, 2008
Lou wrote:
History says Paxson's days are running out.
Its about time that someone pointed the finger at Paxson. De's done some decent work in the past but he botched the team this year.
Patrick

United States

#15 Jan 10, 2008
Hardliner wrote:
Paxson did an exemplary job of cleaning up the perennial lottery bound mess of Jerry Krause. With that success though comes higher expectations and he and his team have not delivered. The good thing is that they some valuable individual players the problem is that together they are going nowhere fast. This team is not balanced. They can be rebuilt on the fly there is no need to think that it has to sink back into the lottery. It’s up to Paxson to earn his keep and get it done. Opportunities were there the last couple of years with Garnett clearly available as well as Gasol. Paxson blew those opportunities. You could bring back Red Auerbach from the grave to coach this team and the results would be the same. It’s not the coach it is the players. If Paxson can’t get it done its time to say thank you and goodbye. Reinsdrof didn’t hesitate to launch GM Larry Himes with the Sox when he felt he took them as far as they could go and he did the same with Doug Collins as coach.
Hardliner, normally I like your opinion especially when it concerns the Sox but I'm not sure what exactly Paxson has done that deserves acclaim.

He got lucky on the Curry trade that the Knicks were even more terrible than forecasted and he completely blew that pick on Thomas. And why did we get Khryapa? Plus he backed himself into a corner by publicly insisting on the DNA test for him. Hinrich was a reach. Gordon was a mistake. Thabo is not a pro basketball player. The Chandler trade will go down as one of the all-time worst in Bulls history and then he signs Wallace with the proceeds?? This will handicap them financially for the rest of the hopefully soon-to-end Paxson era.

I'll give him credit for drafting Deng and signing Nocioni. Also, he has been unlucky in drafts by having high picks in bad years.

Overall the Paxson era is a complete disaster. He has been getting credit for not being Krause for years. As Greg Couch says, "the honeymoon is over."
Scott Skiles

United States

#16 Jan 10, 2008
Typical Chicago fans and owners blaming the coaches.
Well now what???
The Bulls are who I thought they were!
The Bulls fans and owners deserve to suffer through the rest of the season after axing the only stability they had.
HAHAHAHA
William Cartwright

South Haven, MI

#17 Jan 10, 2008
As has been said before by others, none of the sour grapes and above rantings are going to amount to a hill of beans unless they are acted on by the folks that lay out cash to buy tickets to see the Bulls at the United Center. Stay home; and better yet, drop Comcast too. When the boss discovers his revenue stream is being adversely affected by the team's bad record, then and only then will some personnel changes be made that count.
Hardliner

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Jan 10, 2008
Patrick wrote:
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Hardliner, normally I like your opinion especially when it concerns the Sox but I'm not sure what exactly Paxson has done that deserves acclaim.
He got lucky on the Curry trade that the Knicks were even more terrible than forecasted and he completely blew that pick on Thomas. And why did we get Khryapa? Plus he backed himself into a corner by publicly insisting on the DNA test for him. Hinrich was a reach. Gordon was a mistake. Thabo is not a pro basketball player. The Chandler trade will go down as one of the all-time worst in Bulls history and then he signs Wallace with the proceeds?? This will handicap them financially for the rest of the hopefully soon-to-end Paxson era.
I'll give him credit for drafting Deng and signing Nocioni. Also, he has been unlucky in drafts by having high picks in bad years.
Overall the Paxson era is a complete disaster. He has been getting credit for not being Krause for years. As Greg Couch says, "the honeymoon is over."
Patrick: Thank you for the “props” as the kids say.

I know Paxson is not looking good right now but you have to give him credit for getting the team back to the point where anybody cares. It easy to forget just how bad things had gotten in the last years of Jerry Krause’s tenure. They were effectively blackballed by the elite free agents because of the perception of Krause being responsible for breaking up the dynasty. The one thing Krause did right was take Elton Brand and then he trades him for Curry and Chandler. Getting rid of your guaranteed 20 and 10 guy still haunts this team and right now it might cost Paxson his job. Don’t forget how Paxson handled the Jay Williams buyout after the motorcycle accident. That bought a lot of good will from the fraternity of players. On top of that he got rid of other Krause blunders like Eddie Robinson, Crawford and Rose.

Paxsons signing of Wallace looked good too most people at the time but has proven to be a bust. In hindsight you are right I wish Chandler were back. I thought he handled the Eddie Curry situation in a professional manner. The last thing I would have wanted to see was big money spent on a guy who ends up dropping dead like Reggie Lewis. It seemed to me that all Curry, his family and agents cared about was money not his health. That was the scary part to me. Yes he is still alive and playing but he is hardly the once in a generation impact center that Krause and Thomas thought he was. He looks fatter and more out of shape right now than ever. To me he is just another Kevin Duckworth certainly not a star worth fretting over. If Paxson had used one of the Curry lottery picks on Brandon Roy, Curry would be an after thought in everyone’s mind.

All of that being said Paxson no longer gets the benefit of the doubt from me. I still can’t believe that Danny Ainge out maneuvered him for Kevin Garnett with a package of lesser talented players. I think he is gun-shy now. He knows he has to make a move but is on a losing streak so he has the classic “paralysis by analysis”. I just hope that Reinsdrofs loyalty to him doesn’t prolong this any longer than necessary if moves are not made.
Basketball Joe

United States

#19 Jan 10, 2008
The Bulls need to add a star player and size to the team. If they don't, they may have spurts where they play well and they may even make the playoffs, but as in years past, they won't get far. That's the word from Basketball Joe.
Patrick

United States

#20 Jan 10, 2008
Hardliner wrote:
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Patrick: Thank you for the “props” as the kids say.
I know Paxson is not looking good right now but you have to give him credit for getting the team back to the point where anybody cares. It easy to forget just how bad things had gotten in the last years of Jerry Krause’s tenure. They were effectively blackballed by the elite free agents because of the perception of Krause being responsible for breaking up the dynasty. The one thing Krause did right was take Elton Brand and then he trades him for Curry and Chandler. Getting rid of your guaranteed 20 and 10 guy still haunts this team and right now it might cost Paxson his job. Don’t forget how Paxson handled the Jay Williams buyout after the motorcycle accident. That bought a lot of good will from the fraternity of players. On top of that he got rid of other Krause blunders like Eddie Robinson, Crawford and Rose.
Paxsons signing of Wallace looked good too most people at the time but has proven to be a bust. In hindsight you are right I wish Chandler were back. I thought he handled the Eddie Curry situation in a professional manner. The last thing I would have wanted to see was big money spent on a guy who ends up dropping dead like Reggie Lewis. It seemed to me that all Curry, his family and agents cared about was money not his health. That was the scary part to me. Yes he is still alive and playing but he is hardly the once in a generation impact center that Krause and Thomas thought he was. He looks fatter and more out of shape right now than ever. To me he is just another Kevin Duckworth certainly not a star worth fretting over. If Paxson had used one of the Curry lottery picks on Brandon Roy, Curry would be an after thought in everyone’s mind.
All of that being said Paxson no longer gets the benefit of the doubt from me. I still can’t believe that Danny Ainge out maneuvered him for Kevin Garnett with a package of lesser talented players. I think he is gun-shy now. He knows he has to make a move but is on a losing streak so he has the classic “paralysis by analysis”. I just hope that Reinsdrofs loyalty to him doesn’t prolong this any longer than necessary if moves are not made.
I don't even blame Pax for the Garnett deal. Apparently the Bulls offerred an even better deal than Boston. McHale just wanted to do his old buddy in a favor.

The Curry situation to me was one of Pax's worst moments. I fully understand the Reggie Lewis concern. But he never should have done anything publicly. I remember reading every week what Pax's stand was in the paper. You cannot publicly announce to every GM what is happening. Then they ONLY traded him for draft picks. Tim Thomas, Motumbo, Sweetney???? All garbage. You have to remember that Curry still had a lot of value when he was here. He was potentially a baby Shaq. He is pure garbage now, but 3 years ago his career was definitely on the upswing.

Comparing current mediocrity favorably to the horrible last few Krause years is not something I wish to engage because now we have overpaid marginal players. That is the worst situation possible. No cap room and no hope for the top picks in the draft.

Anyway, keep up the excellent manifestos on the Sox. I'll be reading.
jreed

United States

#21 Jan 10, 2008
I love how the author of the author of the article call the magic a "powerhouse" GO MAGIC!!
jreed

United States

#22 Jan 10, 2008
sorry should not have smoked that second bowl at lunch

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