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With Tinsley out, Owens takes the point

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

He doesn't have the decision-making skills of Jamaal Tinsley. He doesn't create as well, either.

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Larry

Indianapolis, IN

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#1
Dec 31, 2007
 
Please Owens, make it work. Relegate Tinsley to the bench permanently and maybe the attendance will increase.
GARY ATKINSON

Muncie, IN

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#2
Dec 31, 2007
 
Couple of other things
1. he is not going to have as many turn overs
2. he is going to have a much higher shooting %
3. he is not going to be a touble maker and disrupt the team
4. he is not going to miss near as many games with injuries
Jeff from Delphi

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Dec 31, 2007
 
GARY ATKINSON wrote:
Couple of other things
1. he is not going to have as many turn overs
2. he is going to have a much higher shooting %
3. he is not going to be a touble maker and disrupt the team
4. he is not going to miss near as many games with injuries
5. We'll loose
Bart Hater

Jackson, MI

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#4
Dec 31, 2007
 
Talk around the office today is the pacers didn't even try to win.
I stopped watching all pacers/related events. Street thugs.
And, as you defend them, look at the attendance. I'm NOT in the minority.
Anna Davenport

Indianapolis, IN

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#5
Dec 31, 2007
 
Andre is a very decent young man. I don't believe you will find him getting into any bar room brawls.
Buckwheat Carson

Indianapolis, IN

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#6
Dec 31, 2007
 
I almost forgot we have a pro-team. I have went from. " I have to get home to catch the Pacer game." To " Oh the Pacers played last night"

We miss you Reggie
earl

Indianapolis, IN

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#7
Dec 31, 2007
 
Pacers? Are they still here or is it the new developmental league team.
hmmmmm

Indianapolis, IN

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#8
Dec 31, 2007
 
he isnt hurt. they are trying to trade him. nobody plays while a deal is being sought. donnie must be back to making decisions because bird isnt smart enough to get rid of him.
Pro Sissies

Indianapolis, IN

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#9
Dec 31, 2007
 
Did he hurt himself AGAIN. That Thug spends more time on the bench hurt then on the floor. Start taking money away for worthless injuries and time off the court, and see if he is on the court more. Why play if your making as much money not playing. What a life, need a paid vacation every three of four weeks? Come join the Pacers. You'll learn to hang out with Indy's best Drug dealers in town. Put these thugs back in their hometown streets, we don't need them here. Bar room brawl jerks!
crunch

Pontiac, IL

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#10
Dec 31, 2007
 
Gotta give O'B some credit for trying to put a positive, professional spin on the whole thing. He's been put in a tough situation this year, and really seems to love the game - More than his players, in some cases, and he's a bigger fan of the NBA than the town, currently. If the Pacers aren't ready to step forward and he does well with what little he has, he'll go somewhere for a real chance to succeed when he's done here.

Oh, and who is going to complain about thuggery when Tinsley and O'Neal are out with injuries? Seems to me the thug pool is thinning.(IMO O'N isn't in the same pool anyway).
old schoolmate

Lebanon, IN

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#11
Dec 31, 2007
 
congrats to andre.. we grew up together on the eastside..he's hardworking and he's really deserving of that... congrats!
James

Greencastle, IN

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#12
Dec 31, 2007
 
Tinsley is NOT going to be traded! He is O'Brien's favorite player. What you see on the floor is what you are going to get the rest of the year. Some decent players, but no championship. We are not consistent. We will be lucky to make the playoffs.
Corporate Greed

Indianapolis, IN

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#13
Dec 31, 2007
 
Bird continues to look for the next HOPE. First Jasikevicus, now Diener. Jasikevicus is out of the league and Diener is to follow.

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ISP: Tulsa, OK

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#14
Dec 31, 2007
 
Sorry to hear JT's out. Good luck to Andre! Ms. Hill has to be proud!

Get well soon JT! Keep your head up, your doing better this year, and if you use this time to work on getting better (on your game) it'll be time well spent.
Will Hasson

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Dec 31, 2007
 
Pro Sissies wrote:
Did he hurt himself AGAIN. That Thug spends more time on the bench hurt then on the floor. Start taking money away for worthless injuries and time off the court, and see if he is on the court more. Why play if your making as much money not playing. What a life, need a paid vacation every three of four weeks? Come join the Pacers. You'll learn to hang out with Indy's best Drug dealers in town. Put these thugs back in their hometown streets, we don't need them here. Bar room brawl jerks!
Dear Miss Sissies,

Or may we call you by your first name, "Pro"?

Please tell us how you have never taken a sick day in your working career, that is if you have a regular job.

Please tell us all about how you know when someone is a "thug" or do you really want to use another word that begins with "N"?

Please tell us all about your inside information on how the Pacers are using drugs. This seems to be right up your alley.

Please tell us about your knowledge concerning "Bar room brawl jerks". This is something that you probably have a lot of experience with. At least you probably know a lot about the "jerk" part which I am sure is an important aspect of your life.
Steve

Bloomington, IN

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#16
Dec 31, 2007
 
O'Brien says that Owens is a high level defender. In the next sentence he says that Owens did not play in the 4th quarter because he wanted Daniels to defend Billups. Maybe this is why the Pacers are where they are. Everybody is playing and coaching with a short deck!
fly

Indianapolis, IN

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Dec 31, 2007
 
Anna Davenport wrote:
Andre is a very decent young man. I don't believe you will find him getting into any bar room brawls.
that is doubtful, he is in the same club as Jamal Tinsley every weekend. Was just there Saturday.
indy

Fishers, IN

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#18
Dec 31, 2007
 
trade tinsley, jermaine, murphy and start from there stop making excuses and make the trade. they are not going anywhere. leave mike,danny,ike,rush,williams,f oster,owens and daniels and get rid of the rest.i hope owens does a good job so we can trade tinsley the offense looks better wen he is playing
Time to trade

Fishers, IN

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Dec 31, 2007
 
Jeff from Delphi wrote:
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5. We'll loose
We lose with or without him.
Time to trade

Fishers, IN

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Dec 31, 2007
 
Will Hasson wrote:
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Dear Miss Sissies,
Or may we call you by your first name, "Pro"?
Please tell us how you have never taken a sick day in your working career, that is if you have a regular job.
Please tell us all about how you know when someone is a "thug" or do you really want to use another word that begins with "N"?
Please tell us all about your inside information on how the Pacers are using drugs. This seems to be right up your alley.
Please tell us about your knowledge concerning "Bar room brawl jerks". This is something that you probably have a lot of experience with. At least you probably know a lot about the "jerk" part which I am sure is an important aspect of your life.
Is it really your contention that when people use the word thug that they acutally mean the "N" word? Face it. There are thugs of every race. A thug is anyone who gets in to fights and tries to bully people. Any inference to race is your way to discredit people who make valid points. Instead of discrediting their arguments you just call them racists.
As for your other argument. Police found pot in Tinsley's car and in William's car. Both of them had other people take the fall for the drugs but to think that they were not doing them is niave at best. Of course others are going to take the wrap for the drugs. If you are poor and you have one meal ticket friend you take the fall so they can continue making the money. Like it or not but you can tell a lot about a person by who they hang out with.
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