Defense disappears for Pacers

There are 39 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Dec 12, 2007, titled Defense disappears for Pacers. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

They had rallied for an impressive victory in Orlando on Friday with a late defensive surge that seemed to establish a formula for future success.

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Adam

Bloomington, IN

#21 Dec 12, 2007
jaded by the system wrote:
Don't tell me the savior of Pacer basketball who visits dens of sin saving souls, couldn’t pull this one out? And to hear our new “stern” coach you would think the Pacer savior is up for the team citizenship of the year award. O'Brien said Tinsley didn't do anything wrong or break any team rules? Could it be because the team doesn't have any rules? If O’Brien has children they must have had a fun filled childhood of no discipline.
Have you read any of the stories on the new coach? Even the biggest Pacer haters here have been acknowledging what kind of fantastic man and fantastic father he is. By the way his youngest daughter has Down Syndrome. You can read about it here: http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp...
pacersfan2

United States

#22 Dec 12, 2007
still think o'neal is the key to our success. 5-10 and counting.
James

Greencastle, IN

#23 Dec 12, 2007
Only saw the last 4 minutes of the game. I assumed, with the score, that they played terrible defense and the headline on this article said it. Even though Jamaal is the fair haired boy of O'Brien, we all know he doesn't play defense. O'Brien better figure out that we will not be able to outscore the other teams in the league just by showing up. Defense is what wins games but that takes effort. Last night, evidently, there was no effort.
pacersfan2

United States

#24 Dec 12, 2007
Hators wrote:
A week ago on the comments everybody was loving the Pacers and how good they were playing...back off the bandwagon and bring on the negativity! Indiana has the most fair weathered fans in the world!! Just because Jamaal got shot at for making a stupid decision doesn't mean everybody now needs to get down on the rest of the team. Grow up and support your team...like I'm sure all of you did 6 years ago when the Colts sucked.
It's not so much that we're off the band wagon - i've sat through losing seasons since i was 11 (1986) and have been faithful. The furstration is knowing that we have a talented team (unlike much of the 80's) and can't do anything with it...largely due to O'neals sloth-like approach to basketball. If he doesn't play, we win...plain and simple. If we had no name no talent players, we could count this a successful season so far...in the playoff hunt.
TheOUTLAW

United States

#25 Dec 12, 2007
Fact is, the Cavs are just a better team than the Pacers.
cheap suit

Indianapolis, IN

#26 Dec 12, 2007
We need someone who is not afraid to shoot at the end of the game. How about James Tinsley?
Realist

Carmel, IN

#27 Dec 12, 2007
The Pacers were missing energy and defense. The Pacers were missing Jeff Foster. Not a coincidence.

Granger probably needs to be benched so he plays against the second unit. He's struggling to be a three-point jumpshooter with the first unit, when his strength is really his slashing ability and mid-range shot. Put him on the bench, he'll get 20ppg.
Pacers Not Thugs

Indianapolis, IN

#28 Dec 12, 2007
...eh, I remember when COLTS stood for "Count on Losing this Sunday".

OK, Fairweather Fans, what does PACERS stand for...?
Pacer Pontiff

South Bend, IN

#29 Dec 12, 2007
I understand you don't like all the negativity, but please, Indpls is like every other city when it comes to stuff like this. If you really think Indy fans are the worst, you need to get out more.

In terms of my reaction to last night's game? It's just 1 game.
Hators wrote:
A week ago on the comments everybody was loving the Pacers and how good they were playing...back off the bandwagon and bring on the negativity! Indiana has the most fair weathered fans in the world!! Just because Jamaal got shot at for making a stupid decision doesn't mean everybody now needs to get down on the rest of the team. Grow up and support your team...like I'm sure all of you did 6 years ago when the Colts sucked.
Pacer Pontiff

South Bend, IN

#30 Dec 12, 2007
Great point about Foster being out.
Realist wrote:
The Pacers were missing energy and defense. The Pacers were missing Jeff Foster. Not a coincidence.
Granger probably needs to be benched so he plays against the second unit. He's struggling to be a three-point jumpshooter with the first unit, when his strength is really his slashing ability and mid-range shot. Put him on the bench, he'll get 20ppg.
jaded by the system

Indianapolis, IN

#31 Dec 12, 2007
Adam wrote:
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Have you read any of the stories on the new coach? Even the biggest Pacer haters here have been acknowledging what kind of fantastic man and fantastic father he is. By the way his youngest daughter has Down Syndrome. You can read about it here: http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp...
My comments where meant to make a point about a lack of discipline in the Pacer organization. I don't know what type parent Jim O'Brien is and am confident he has a special relationship with his youngest daughter. If he is a parent that believes in discipline then he needs to bring that to the Pacers.

That said, if a person has a lack of discipline at work he will normally have the same style in his personal life. The Pacer organization is out of control. At this point the Pacers need to hire a full time parole officer. We needed to bring in a coach who believed and practiced discipline since no one else in the organization seems to be able to handle it. Bobby Knight would be just about right for the Pacer organization given its current situation.
Cheryl Lynn

Indianapolis, IN

#32 Dec 12, 2007
TJ and the boys must have been up late on Monday night as they played like crap on Tuesday. Play Foster!
Floridaguy

Navarre, FL

#33 Dec 12, 2007
P A C E R S

Players acting crazy expect random shootings
joe

Dayton, OH

#34 Dec 12, 2007
Pacers Not Thugs wrote:
...eh, I remember when COLTS stood for "Count on Losing this Sunday".
OK, Fairweather Fans, what does PACERS stand for...?
Pathetic
A$$
Clowns
Earning
Ridiculous
Sums of Money
Joker

United States

#35 Dec 12, 2007
When I am king, you will be first against the wall with your opinion which is of no consequence at all.
Pacer Thugs

Indianapolis, IN

#36 Dec 12, 2007
Who cares they are all a bunch of thugs.
zabola

Marion, IN

#37 Feb 19, 2008
The Pacers ARE thugs.
zabola

Marion, IN

#38 Feb 19, 2008
thugs thugs thugs
missionimplodes

Newark, OH

#39 Feb 20, 2008
Bob Knight and his 30.06 on the sidelines and those men would not forget about defense!

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