Cavs sign Gibson to 5-year deal

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CLEVELAND: The Cavaliers signed restricted free-agent guard Daniel Gibson to a five-year contract Wednesday, securing the services of someone they view as integral to the team's future success.

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#42
Jul 28, 2008
 
Well, I think it's one thing to say Hickson will be a pretty good player, it's another to say he'll be a 20/10 guy, there were only 5 of them this past season.

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#43
Jul 28, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> But Gibson can't defend anybody anyway. It's the difference between between three steps behind instead of two steps behind. The point is he's just another one-dimensional shooting specialist. Gibson is a dime a dozen. Guys like that always are. It's why he'll have a long NBA career bouncing from team to team, being passed around like a cheap hooker. I predict by the time he retires 11 years from now, he'll have played for six teams, maybe more. There is always a team that needs a guy that can shoot from a distance, even if he can't do anything else.
Everybody should put down the crackpipe, he's never going to equate to anything more than a role player.
Alan...I don't know how old you are...but do you do things better today than you did 10 years ago? 5 years ago? The point is that Gibson already can shoot very well and will improve in other areas.
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#44
Jul 28, 2008
 
hdawg wrote:
Well, I think it's one thing to say Hickson will be a pretty good player, it's another to say he'll be a 20/10 guy, there were only 5 of them this past season.
I didn't say "will be" a 20/10 guy, I said "If he turns out to be". Big difference. Nobody knows how he'll turn out. We won't know for years. But, that's part of the fun of watching. And, he played in the same summer league as all the hyped big-name college picks and he did really well.
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Aug 3, 2008
 
Thinking out Loud 2 wrote:
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Alan...I don't know how old you are...but do you do things better today than you did 10 years ago? 5 years ago? The point is that Gibson already can shoot very well and will improve in other areas.
So what? Guys like him are a dime a dozen. Always have been. He's like just about every other second-round pick who makes it in the NBA. That's why it just kills me, in a funny bone kind of way, whenever I read somebody making out like that Ferry is some kind of genius for drafting him in the second-round. It's precisely where Gibson belonged in the draft. Gibson is destined to be a journeyman. Not a bad player, but a journeyman with one skill that stands out. Basically, another Craig Hodges. Who, coincidentally, was drafted 48th, just a few higher than Gibson.
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#46
Aug 3, 2008
 
Oops. I guess technically I should have written just a few lower than Gibson, not a few higher than Gibson. I suppose 48th is lower than 42nd.
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Aug 4, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> My point was shooters like Gibson are a dime a dozen. It was a "Who cares?" signing. The only "PR" involved was it made it look like Ferry was doing something other than buffing his head on a shoe buffing machine. If they didn't sign Gibson, they could have easily gotten somebody else with identical skills.
name one
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Aug 4, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> What's with the "young" obsession? One-dimensional guys ... it doesn't matter how old he is. Hell, get Trajan Langdon from the Euroleague. He's a damn good shooter, too. Probably a better shooter than Gibson. What's the difference if somebody is 22 or 32?
Well, Trajan Langdon, frankly, wasn't in Gibson's league as a shooter (Gibson .434 3pfg%, Langdon .396 3pfg%). As usual, you can't be bothered with being right. But you've never really cared about facts in your posts, just thinkly veiled insults about the organization you despise. Yawn.
Ghost of Akron Al

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Aug 4, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> So what? Guys like him are a dime a dozen. Always have been. He's like just about every other second-round pick who makes it in the NBA. That's why it just kills me, in a funny bone kind of way, whenever I read somebody making out like that Ferry is some kind of genius for drafting him in the second-round. It's precisely where Gibson belonged in the draft. Gibson is destined to be a journeyman. Not a bad player, but a journeyman with one skill that stands out. Basically, another Craig Hodges. Who, coincidentally, was drafted 48th, just a few higher than Gibson.
Wrong as usual. Players like Gibson are found in the second round - but that doesn't make Gibson just an average second rounder.The fact is, only four players from the second round of the 2006 have had ANY impact in the NBA at all (Gibson, Paul Milsap, Leon Powe, and Craig Smith). That's about average, really - 80% of second round draft picks tank. You hate the fact that Ferry made a good draft pick, but the facts simply support it. Bringing up other second round gems like Craig Hodges is idiotic. Hodges was by far the best player selected in the second round of 1982 draft - 12 didn't even make the NBA, and the other other player of note is who, Chuck Nevitt? looking at their games, doesn't it seem like Gibson IS the Craig Hodges of his draft? ISn't that a good thing?
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Aug 4, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
Oops. I guess technically I should have written just a few lower than Gibson, not a few higher than Gibson. I suppose 48th is lower than 42nd.
Yeah, it works out kind of weird, since Hodges was taken in the third round, but here are more teams now...
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Aug 4, 2008
 
Ghost of Akron Al wrote:
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name one
Uhh .. I thought I did when I named Craig Hodges. But OK, if you need to be humored, Damon Jones. There, that's two, twice as many as you requested. Hope you're delighted.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> Uhh .. I thought I did when I named Craig Hodges. But OK, if you need to be humored, Damon Jones. There, that's two, twice as many as you requested. Hope you're delighted.
Wow, Craig Hodges is making a comeback? And there's another Damon Jones? And Ferry signed Gibson instead? You've been right all along!

Truth is that's zero. You've named no one, as usual.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
Ghost of Akron Al wrote:
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Wow, Craig Hodges is making a comeback? And there's another Damon Jones? And Ferry signed Gibson instead? You've been right all along!
Truth is that's zero. You've named no one, as usual.
Uh ... pretty dumb comment from you. As usual. Hell, the Clippers just signed Steve Novak. Another one dimensional guy, can't do a damn thing but shoot from long range. But it's also why he'll likely always find a basketball home, even if he's bouncing from team to team. He's a white Gibson, only taller. Guys like Gibson are everywhere. As I originally said, a dime a dozen. They really ain't hard to find. They're like stray cats, open your front door and you'll see 10.
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Aug 9, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> Uh ... pretty dumb comment from you. As usual. Hell, the Clippers just signed Steve Novak. Another one dimensional guy, can't do a damn thing but shoot from long range. But it's also why he'll likely always find a basketball home, even if he's bouncing from team to team. He's a white Gibson, only taller. Guys like Gibson are everywhere. As I originally said, a dime a dozen. They really ain't hard to find. They're like stray cats, open your front door and you'll see 10.
A dime a dozen, and in two responses so far, you still haven't named a player like Gibson. Novak's a 6'10" forward, NBA tested at a whopping 6.5 minutes over 70 NBA games over two years (that was a trade, by the way not a signing - you didn't even bother to get that right, you are so unconcerned with the facts). His one dimension so far has bench DNPs. Just like your one dimension is bashing the Cavs.
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Aug 10, 2008
 
Ghost of Akron Al wrote:
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A dime a dozen, and in two responses so far, you still haven't named a player like Gibson. Novak's a 6'10" forward, NBA tested at a whopping 6.5 minutes over 70 NBA games over two years (that was a trade, by the way not a signing - you didn't even bother to get that right, you are so unconcerned with the facts). His one dimension so far has bench DNPs. Just like your one dimension is bashing the Cavs.
Come on, man, don't waste time ... yours or mine. You can go through every NBA roster and every roster of guys overseas, and pluck a guy that can't do a damn thing but shoot from outside. It's why these guys always have relatively long basketball careers, even if they don't often stick with the same team for long. There is always a need. It's why an undrafted stiff like Damon Jones is still hanging around.
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Aug 10, 2008
 
Ghost of Akron Al wrote:
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A dime a dozen, and in two responses so far, you still haven't named a player like Gibson. Novak's a 6'10" forward, NBA tested at a whopping 6.5 minutes over 70 NBA games over two years (that was a trade, by the way not a signing - you didn't even bother to get that right, you are so unconcerned with the facts). His one dimension so far has bench DNPs. Just like your one dimension is bashing the Cavs.
By the way, I suppose I should also apologize for the semantics typo, since you took wasted time to point it out. Novak was "acquired," not "signed," for the whole exorbitantly rich cost of the requirement to possibly flip-flop a second-round pick with Houston about 75 years from now. And never mind that Novak is being paid the league minimum in the last year of a short-term contract.
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Aug 11, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> Come on, man, don't waste time ... yours or mine. You can go through every NBA roster and every roster of guys overseas, and pluck a guy that can't do a damn thing but shoot from outside. It's why these guys always have relatively long basketball careers, even if they don't often stick with the same team for long. There is always a need. It's why an undrafted stiff like Damon Jones is still hanging around.
You say they are so easy to find, and yet after three posts you can't come up with any that were available that play at the level of Gibson. You're convinced Gibson is a dime a dozen, but don't really have any reason for believing that.

Wasting time? You're the one that feels the need to target your disdainful, negative nonsense - rarely based in fact or reason - every time there's any kind of Cavs story in the ABJ
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Aug 11, 2008
 
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> By the way, I suppose I should also apologize for the semantics typo, since you took wasted time to point it out. Novak was "acquired," not "signed," for the whole exorbitantly rich cost of the requirement to possibly flip-flop a second-round pick with Houston about 75 years from now. And never mind that Novak is being paid the league minimum in the last year of a short-term contract.
I would never criticize a typo - and that's not what I did. It is extremely significant, the difference between "signed" and "acquired". Only free agents can be signed - so the only restrictions are financial or roster limits. By stating Steve Novak was signed by the Clippers, you imply that he was just as available to the Cavs as Gibson was, which is of course, completely untrue. Regardless of how little the Clippers gave up for him - although switching picks between the Rockets and the Clips could be the difference of about twenty draft positions in the second round.

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