Cavs sign Gibson to 5-year deal

Jul 16, 2008 Read more: Akron Beacon Journal 57
CLEVELAND: The Cavaliers signed restricted free-agent guard Daniel Gibson to a five-year contract Wednesday, securing the services of someone they view as integral to the team's future success. Read more
justin

Hobbs, NM

#22 Jul 17, 2008
WELCOME TO THE FINALS CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!!!
Only if we could get some more help
East Side Joe

Chevy Chase, MD

#23 Jul 18, 2008
Great to have Gibson, one of the many ROLE players on the team. Now all we need are a few STARTERS.
george lopez

Dayton, OH

#24 Jul 18, 2008
East Side Joe wrote:
Great to have Gibson, one of the many ROLE players on the team. Now all we need are a few STARTERS.
i love boobie i love boobie
Athlete22

Kent, OH

#25 Jul 18, 2008
I'm glad we kept BooBie because we sure do need him.But can we please sign another star. was goin on with Redd ( bring him home pay him the money), and how did posey get away?
alan t

New Albany, OH

#26 Jul 18, 2008
Athlete22 wrote:
I'm glad we kept BooBie because we sure do need him.But can we please sign another star. was goin on with Redd ( bring him home pay him the money), and how did posey get away?
Why do they "need" him? J.J. Redick could have served the same purpose. James Jones could have served the same purpose. I could go on, but why bother.
Strikedrum

Cleveland, OH

#27 Jul 19, 2008
Thanks Daniel! We're expecting BIG things from you. Here's to a healthy season(s).
Ghost of Akron Al

San Francisco, CA

#28 Jul 22, 2008
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> Why do they "need" him? J.J. Redick could have served the same purpose. James Jones could have served the same purpose. I could go on, but why bother.
Why bother? because neither of those guys were better options than signing Gibson, so you've made absolutely no point, except to take a jab at the organization that everyone on every BJ Cavs blog knows you hate.

First of all, neither of those guys have a history of shooting anywhere near Gibson - for his career, Gibson 3pfg% is .434, Jones .399, Reddick .390. Jones at least has size, but Reddick is probably even more of a one dimensional play than Gibson.

Second of all, you'd have to trade for Reddick, since he's under contract through the 2008 season for 2.1M. Both teams are over the salary cap, so who are we trading to get Reddick, and why do we do it when he doesn't seem to make our team better? Because he's cheaper?

Third, Jones signed a five year contract with Miami, for about the same amount we signed Gibson to. Unless you wanted to spend more to get Jones, he was going to sign with his hometown team - he's from Miami, and really wanted to sign there. How much more money did you want to spend to get him away from Miami for your outside shooter?

Did the Cavs need Gibson? In a sense, I think they did. He is a deadly outside shooter, and the team certainly needs those. He has great chemistry with the Cavs best player and distributor, also very important. He's already been here, is comfortable here, and wants to be here. And it's a good PR move, since the fans have connected to him. He signed for a reasonable amount of money. He's the right player, like it or not.
alan t

New Albany, OH

#29 Jul 22, 2008
Ghost of Akron Al wrote:
<quoted text>
Why bother? because neither of those guys were better options than signing Gibson, so you've made absolutely no point, except to take a jab at the organization that everyone on every BJ Cavs blog knows you hate.
First of all, neither of those guys have a history of shooting anywhere near Gibson - for his career, Gibson 3pfg% is .434, Jones .399, Reddick .390. Jones at least has size, but Reddick is probably even more of a one dimensional play than Gibson.
Second of all, you'd have to trade for Reddick, since he's under contract through the 2008 season for 2.1M. Both teams are over the salary cap, so who are we trading to get Reddick, and why do we do it when he doesn't seem to make our team better? Because he's cheaper?
Third, Jones signed a five year contract with Miami, for about the same amount we signed Gibson to. Unless you wanted to spend more to get Jones, he was going to sign with his hometown team - he's from Miami, and really wanted to sign there. How much more money did you want to spend to get him away from Miami for your outside shooter?
Did the Cavs need Gibson? In a sense, I think they did. He is a deadly outside shooter, and the team certainly needs those. He has great chemistry with the Cavs best player and distributor, also very important. He's already been here, is comfortable here, and wants to be here. And it's a good PR move, since the fans have connected to him. He signed for a reasonable amount of money. He's the right player, like it or not.
My point was shooters like Gibson are a dime a dozen. It was a "Who cares?" signing. The only "PR" involved was it made it look like Ferry was doing something other than buffing his head on a shoe buffing machine. If they didn't sign Gibson, they could have easily gotten somebody else with identical skills.
TheCavalier

Cleveland, OH

#30 Jul 22, 2008
Well, Alan, the Cavs have gotten shooters in the past but they lost their touch when they played in Cleveland. Gibson is young and he's proven he can make outside shots. He may not be an all-around player but he's a sure bet to give us something in one area and that's more than most guys on the team contribute. Also, his contract is very cap friendly.
antonioluke41011

Covington, KY

#31 Jul 23, 2008
It was a good move because he will and be a all star one day
alan t

New Albany, OH

#32 Jul 23, 2008
TheCavalier wrote:
Well, Alan, the Cavs have gotten shooters in the past but they lost their touch when they played in Cleveland. Gibson is young and he's proven he can make outside shots. He may not be an all-around player but he's a sure bet to give us something in one area and that's more than most guys on the team contribute. Also, his contract is very cap friendly.
What's with the "young" obsession? One-dimensional guys ... it doesn't matter how old he is. Hell, get Trajan Langdon from the Euroleague. He's a damn good shooter, too. Probably a better shooter than Gibson. What's the difference if somebody is 22 or 32?
alan t

New Albany, OH

#33 Jul 23, 2008
antonioluke41011 wrote:
It was a good move because he will and be a all star one day
Oh, please. He'll never be an all-star, not even close. He can't do anything but stand and shoot. Craig Hodges was a terrific shooter, but you didn't hear anybody campaigning for him to be on an all-star team.

“Serenity Now!”

Since: May 07

York Township, OH

#34 Jul 23, 2008
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> What's the difference if somebody is 22 or 32?
In professional sports, it goes without saying that 10 years is a HUGE difference.....especially when you're talking about small guards, who need to be quick in order to defend other small guards. I'll take a good-shooting 22-year-old over a good-shooting 32-year-old anyday.
hdawg

Mamaroneck, NY

#35 Jul 24, 2008
No, Gibson will never be an all star. He may average 12 or 13 points and be a nice role player shooting from outside though.
alan t

New Albany, OH

#36 Jul 24, 2008
Brittle Fingers wrote:
<quoted text>
In professional sports, it goes without saying that 10 years is a HUGE difference.....especially when you're talking about small guards, who need to be quick in order to defend other small guards. I'll take a good-shooting 22-year-old over a good-shooting 32-year-old anyday.
But Gibson can't defend anybody anyway. It's the difference between between three steps behind instead of two steps behind. The point is he's just another one-dimensional shooting specialist. Gibson is a dime a dozen. Guys like that always are. It's why he'll have a long NBA career bouncing from team to team, being passed around like a cheap hooker. I predict by the time he retires 11 years from now, he'll have played for six teams, maybe more. There is always a team that needs a guy that can shoot from a distance, even if he can't do anything else.

Everybody should put down the crackpipe, he's never going to equate to anything more than a role player.

“Serenity Now!”

Since: May 07

York Township, OH

#37 Jul 24, 2008
Alan T -- I do agree with you that Gibson is (and likely will always be) a role player. I was just saying that I'd take him over someone with similar skills who's 10 years older. The difference being that, in Gibson's case, there's always the chance that he could improve in other areas, while the 30-something guy would be slowing down and on the downside of his career.

That being said, this is just a minor signing in my opinion. They're still short a player who can create his own shot.
Jim in Kent

Ravenna, OH

#38 Jul 25, 2008
Brittle Fingers wrote:
Alan T -- I do agree with you that Gibson is (and likely will always be) a role player. I was just saying that I'd take him over someone with similar skills who's 10 years older. The difference being that, in Gibson's case, there's always the chance that he could improve in other areas, while the 30-something guy would be slowing down and on the downside of his career.
That being said, this is just a minor signing in my opinion. They're still short a player who can create his own shot.
I agree with everything you said. Especially the fact that Gibson is young, and can get better at many things, particularly his defense. He's one of the top 5 three point shooters in the league, now. His size is a concern, but the Cavs got a pretty good bang for the bucks with this signing. The other possibility is that he's signed, and he's really good trade bait for someone else we may really need more, like a scoring power forward or a good point guard (cuz that ain't West). If Hickson turns out to be a 20 - 10 guy (cross your fingers and say lotsa prayers), we're getting really close. Just need that point guard that can create his own shot and distribute the ball to the right places.
hdawg

Mamaroneck, NY

#39 Jul 25, 2008
I don't think Hickson can be a 20/10 guy, we need to remember this is summer league. A lot of guys have been dominant in summer league and flopped completely. Although I think Hickson is much better than people are giving him credit for being. As for Gibson, the reason he went so cheap is because nobody else was going to offer him any more, so I don't know how good of trade bait he's going to be. He's a nice role player and outside shooter, but I think that's going to be his limit.
Jim in Kent

Ravenna, OH

#40 Jul 25, 2008
hdawg wrote:
I don't think Hickson can be a 20/10 guy, we need to remember this is summer league. A lot of guys have been dominant in summer league and flopped completely. Although I think Hickson is much better than people are giving him credit for being. As for Gibson, the reason he went so cheap is because nobody else was going to offer him any more, so I don't know how good of trade bait he's going to be. He's a nice role player and outside shooter, but I think that's going to be his limit.
Agree on both. But, my gut says that Hickson has some tremendous upside. He's only 19 and he was putting up his numbers (was better that some of the lottery selections) against the same competition as everyone else. It will be fun to watch him develop. I don't think he will do anything right away, but maybe by mid-season he'll be able to help. As for Gibson, I agree that he's a role player on a team full of them. He's cheaper than Wally, so maybe we keep him. But he'll be very attractive to a lot of teams looking for a good spot up shooter that is cheap to acquire.

Since: Dec 07

Akron, OH

#41 Jul 25, 2008
I slightly disagree with the thought that there have been plenty of people that dominate in summer league and flop in the NBA.

The facts are: I would be way more worried if Hickson did POORLY in the summer league... and when other top picks do well in the summer league, do you think their fans dump on them and think they won't be good for their team?

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