Cavs just aren't clicking like they did last season

So with the same roster, roughly the same system and the same coach as last season, what is the difference between the Cavaliers last year and this year? Chemistry. Full Story
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brother fox

Ashland, OH

#1 Dec 22, 2007
to get andre miller, could we give them sasha, hughes, damon,eric,the
mascot, might as well get slider also and coach brown.,.looks good to me.as
long as they throw in somebody who can design a couple offensive plays and at least 1 inbounds play other than throw the ball to lebron and watch him dribble till 3 seconds left
then throw up an off balance desparation shot.
FootsieW

Fort Myers, FL

#2 Dec 23, 2007
Of all those mentioned in this article the only guy with even a slight reason to complain is Drew Gooden, who played well with AV out. As for the others, Snow is a great defender and a professional but can't shoot any better than a high school bench player and please tell Larry Hughes that until he puts at least two even average games together he should be ashamed to even cash his checks. This guy is the luckiest guy in the NBA. Not only should he not be getting anywhere near the salary he gets, he shouldn't even be in the NBA!
OMG

Cleveland, OH

#3 Dec 23, 2007
The Cavs are a team out of control. They are playing way below their potential. It's time to fire Coach Brown. He has failed to take control and move the team forward to last years' level of play. He has all the same pieces back from last season now.

Boston and Detroit have so much improved themselves that they now stand out in the East.

Cavs still need a point guard, and now a new coach. It was just a point guard, but the longer the holdouts went on, the worse the team chemistry got. I really question who is really running this out of control team, Ferry, Gilbert, Brown or LeBron?
East Side Joe

Chevy Chase, MD

#4 Dec 23, 2007
Hughes should know that absolutely no one is happy with his play, with his contract, and with his attitude which, at times, is reflected in the way he plays. He should observe that the time is better when his 14 mill are not on the court.
East Side Joe

Chevy Chase, MD

#5 Dec 23, 2007
The Cavs are a team of one-dimensional players. It is to Brown's credit he has managed to make them a winning team. They lack outside shooting, ball handling, a point guard, and now defense. I don't think anyone in this league is shocked by their current record.
larry d

Naples, FL

#6 Dec 23, 2007
Damon Jones has point guard skills? That's as funny as Hughes' complaining. Snow was the team's best perimeter defender two or three years ago. Now he's a 'smart foul' waiting to happen. Why keep kow-towing to these veteran complainers?

And why the constant axe grinding with Varejao? I haven't read any player quotes that criticize Varejao but I've read several saying the media twisted things. His demands were inflated in reports for several months.

In any case, Brown has had the full team for a week or two. He'll get the team playing better, despite Ferry's sorry work over the summer and fall.
TEMPLE-MAN

Cleveland, OH

#7 Dec 23, 2007
It would be nice if some of these disgruntled players would try playing better instead of embarrassing themselves when they get in the game. Then they might actually get more playing time. Most eighth graders recognize this. Last year, Daniel Gibson took every sliver of opportunity to earn more playing time. Ironically, it started with that sudden slam dunk against Indiana. He has never wavered from giving quality minutes when called upon which is why he is now a starter. Most of the other guys named in this article come into the game and play like crap. Then they sit down and pout. ANYBODY could take Sasha's job right now. Unfortunately, as bad as Sasha has been playing, Larry Hughes plays even worse whenever he gets the chance. And believe me, with Hughes' price tag, everyone wants him to succeed (if for no other reason than to trade him before he gets hurt again)! Right now he's virtually unplayable and untradeable. He's killing us. I'm sure Mike Brown is sick of giving players opportunities that they waste. A coach needs to know that he count on more than three guys (LeBron, Gibson and Z). Agreed, this team is not loaded with stars. So if guys aren't getting the minutes they want, what does that say about their play? Less whining...more effort!

There were some scary moments during the ugly Knicks loss where LeBron was playing brilliantly and the rest of the team looked like trash. It's the first time (amid all the LeBron-wants-out rumors) that I could sense that LeBron felt like he was wasting his time here. Let's get him some teammates with heart (and talent!) before that becomes a reality.
alan t

United States

#8 Dec 23, 2007
I wondering how long it would take before Windy gave us his 'ol "league sources" nonsense. Two minutes later, and there it is. Hmmmm...let's see, that would be... oh, I don't know ... Danny Ferry and Moondog?
thall

Patuxent River, MD

#9 Dec 23, 2007
Jerry Sloan would curse EACH of these guys out for this mess. So would Phil Jackson...so would Greg Popavich....

To me each of these issues is what a coach is paid to figure out.
The short answer seems to be start Hughes at PG like last year....or he sits at the end of the bench.
Salinian

Cleveland, OH

#10 Dec 23, 2007
Hughes and Gooden to Pacers for Jermaine O'Neal.

Damon, Ira and Shannon (all salcap relief) to Sixers for Andre Miller.

Sasha and Andy can't be dealt this year. Sasha's play reminds me of female anatomy---meaning no offense to that gender, however. He's been a pretender since being exposed in last year's playoffs. I think league players scoff at him.
Cavalier Traveler

Wooster, OH

#11 Dec 23, 2007
I know the fans are fed up with Hughes, especially if the ABJ board is a representative sample of opinion, but if there have been any expressions of disappointment or desire to trade from the team I've missed them. If I'm right, what does it mean? Are they content with sending him a message by making him a bench player? Are they afraid of offending him and hoping that he will regain the form he showed prior to coming to the Cavs? Are they quietly shopping him? Beyond what we see—the bloated contract, the constant downtime, the poor decisions and lousy shooting—does anyone have real news? Heck, I'll settle for rumors or even gossip. Whadaya got?
Just a Fan

Westlake, OH

#12 Dec 23, 2007
Hughes mails it in too often. The other night he entered a game and promptly missed a shot, turned the ball over three times and committed a dumb foul. What good did that do anyone?

Mike Brown is a puzzle. Devin Brown joins the team and steps up, and then he doesn't play for three straight games. Middle school coaches pull odd stunts like that -- but in the NBA? Daniel Gibson has a bad tooth, so Eric Snow leapfrogs everyone to start? Nobody even guards him anymore. He'll make a great coach, so let him start now.

Shannon Brown sits and sits and sits -- and then starts? And then sits again?

It's the guard rotation that kills this team, so instead of sitting Z or Gooden when Andy comes in, why not let a guard take a seat and move LeBron there? He could play the 1 or 2 better than anyone on the team, any time.

The Browns catapulted to "very good" when the coach/front office said "enough" and dumped Charlie Frye. Period. Go look for some other mystical reason, but it ain't there.

Unless the front office is trying to showcase Hughes for a trade (good luck), the Cavs need to stop coddling whiney players and rewarding crappy play. If making it to the finals -- even more, if the goal of WINNING the finals -- isn't enough, then let them collect their ridiculous salaries and shut up, and play the guys who want to contribute. There is absolutely no excuse for this collection of talent to be playing as poorly as they are. It would be nice if the Laker game is indicative of turning a corner, but we'll have to wait and see.
hdawg

San Francisco, CA

#13 Dec 23, 2007
Hughes and Gooden to Pacers for Jermaine O'Neal.

What would the Pacers want with Larry Hughes? Face it, nobody is going to trade for him. The Pacers are actually playing better than the Cavs, why would they give the Cavs their best player and then take Hughes salary? As for the "fire coach Brown" crap, that's just the typical Cleveland crying that comes when the team loses. It's always the coaches fault, we heard it all with Wedge and Crennel, now Mike Brown. Forget about the fact he did win the East last year. You give Lebron the credit when the Cavs win, and blame the coach when they lose. Lebron always said it's his team, why is he unaccountable?
alan t

United States

#14 Dec 23, 2007
Salinian wrote:
Hughes and Gooden to Pacers for Jermaine O'Neal.
Damon, Ira and Shannon (all salcap relief) to Sixers for Andre Miller.
Sasha and Andy can't be dealt this year. Sasha's play reminds me of female anatomy---meaning no offense to that gender, however. He's been a pretender since being exposed in last year's playoffs. I think league players scoff at him.
How is Damon Jones "salary cap relief?"
dacf31

Greenbrier, AR

#15 Dec 23, 2007
the team needs to get back to the basics and that is winnig.lebron needs to step up and be the leader like he was last year
Walton

Medina, OH

#17 Dec 23, 2007
Salinian wrote:
Hughes and Gooden to Pacers for Jermaine O'Neal.
Why in the world would Indiana do that?
WHEL_ZHER

Makati, Philippines

#18 Dec 23, 2007
huge drew jones/shannon for AL JEFFERSON AVRERAGING 20.3 PPG i think he can help lebron.and also shasha huge ira/shannon for ANDRE MILLER. snow and marshall they better go home thier nothing to do.ALL THESE GUYS ALWAYS RECIEVING SALARY. NO CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TEAM. U WAISTING MONEY. FERRY AND COAH BROWN DO AN ACTION BEFORE ITS TO LATE. PLS TRADE.
alan t

United States

#19 Dec 23, 2007
WHEL_ZHER wrote:
huge drew jones/shannon for AL JEFFERSON AVRERAGING 20.3 PPG i think he can help lebron.and also shasha huge ira/shannon for ANDRE MILLER. snow and marshall they better go home thier nothing to do.ALL THESE GUYS ALWAYS RECIEVING SALARY. NO CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TEAM. U WAISTING MONEY. FERRY AND COAH BROWN DO AN ACTION BEFORE ITS TO LATE. PLS TRADE.
Yes, and then they'll trade Ilgauskas for Dwight Howard and Orlando's first-round draft picks in 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015.
Walton

Medina, OH

#20 Dec 23, 2007
alan t wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, and then they'll trade Ilgauskas for Dwight Howard and Orlando's first-round draft picks in 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015.
Brilliant!
Pritchslap

Corvallis, OR

#21 Dec 23, 2007
The Cavs were something of a fluke last year, and this year they are simply coming back down to earth.

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