Missing big man puts Cavs in big hole

Missing big man puts Cavs in big hole

There are 34 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Mar 6, 2008, titled Missing big man puts Cavs in big hole. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

CHICAGO: Zydrunas Ilgauskas wasn't even in the Windy City on Thursday night, but he certainly had an effect on the outcome.

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RPB

Mckees Rocks, PA

#1 Mar 7, 2008
Before all you knuckleheads sound off about how bad the Cavs are, READ the article. They really did miss Z last night! No doubt about it!

The Cavs can't win with AV playing with his back to the basket as their only post threat. He was lucky to go 2-11 as one of his makes was a circus shot (and that was against the best female in the league, Noah). He obviously is not 100%, he can't jump.

Once again I will stress, the Cavs need to get healthy before the playoffs. Which they will. They will still have the 4 seed, they will beat Toronto, and then have to play Boston and Detroit. With or without their injuries, that would have been the case!

Oh, one more thing, Charles Barkley is an idiot, and I'm surprised he wasn't joining in the idiotic Lebron to NYC debate on here yesterday with the rest of you.
East Side Joe

Chevy Chase, MD

#3 Mar 7, 2008
RPB wrote:
Before all you knuckleheads sound off about how bad the Cavs are, READ the article. They really did miss Z last night! No doubt about it!
The Cavs can't win with AV playing with his back to the basket as their only post threat. He was lucky to go 2-11 as one of his makes was a circus shot (and that was against the best female in the league, Noah). He obviously is not 100%, he can't jump.
Once again I will stress, the Cavs need to get healthy before the playoffs. Which they will. They will still have the 4 seed, they will beat Toronto, and then have to play Boston and Detroit. With or without their injuries, that would have been the case!
Oh, one more thing, Charles Barkley is an idiot, and I'm surprised he wasn't joining in the idiotic Lebron to NYC debate on here yesterday with the rest of you.
Charles was absolutely 100 percent correct at half-time, about LeBron's game and the fact that "the Cavs are in trouble."
Chad

United States

#5 Mar 7, 2008
Old Man Grump wrote:
Z is really being missed. Ben Wallace didn't look very good last night at Center. he looked old and slow. I hope the Cavs get healthy before the playoffs. Just too many missing pieces of the playoff team with Z, Sasha, & Boobie missing in action. Lebron's 39 points just isn't enough. GO CAVS !!!
But OMG, Anderson was supposed to be the savior this year when he finally signed and then came back from injury wasn't he? He should be filling in nicely for Z with 12-18 pts a game and 15 RB's according to you. That is exactly why no one wanted to sign him to that kind of money. HE HAS NO OFFENSE!!!!
Eric

Gainesville, FL

#6 Mar 7, 2008
Look, Lebron is good and all but the Cavs suck. Stop blaming the losses on bench players not being healthy and in the game. It's been five years and all the Cavs have done is surround Lebron with garbage at every turn. The Cavs have a coach who's flat out incompetent, a general manager who's an idiot and a team owner who's insane. Lebron should demand a trade this summer. Cleveland sucks!
OMG groupie

Van Wyck, SC

#8 Mar 7, 2008
First off debates aren't idiotic, only the people in them are. Second you have LeBron's professed love of NYC, the Yankees cap, his joy at playing in MSG, third he has an opt out clause in his contract why have something like that if you're at least not thinking about leaving, and lastly why did Danny Ferry make this (panic) blockbuster deal at this time, why not try to get a couple of roll players this year see how things worked out in the playoffs then when he had all these expiring contracts coming off the books make a big splash with free agents. I'll tell you why, because LeBron said he won't be here forever so let's get something done now. I truly believe LeBron desperatly wants to bring a championship to Cleveland before he leaves but he still needs more help than what he has now.
Akron

Marengo, OH

#9 Mar 7, 2008
Quit making excuses for LaBronia - "maybe fatigue set in". Since he thinks he's the BEST in all the world of basketball, he should be scoring "50" every game. He needs to quit making "circus" shots and showing off - just play the game. As for the game the night before - there he goes again, only playing for himself and the spotlight. Go to New York and play in the Garden every night, that should keep your big head inflated!
ATB

Lewis Center, OH

#10 Mar 7, 2008
Between morons from South Carolina, jackasses from Florida, and professed "geniuses" from Alliance, this board has become a joke and a waste of time. In years past it was fun to log in and join a spirited and honest debate about the Cavs. Now it has devolved into nothing more than a forum for those trying to get a rise out of Cavs fans, and that's a shame. Don't bother responding, Eric, "groupie," or "genius." I won't be logging back in to read your blather.
NBA Fan

Owensboro, KY

#11 Mar 7, 2008
Wow folks, all the naysayers need to take a deep breath and RELAX. Its the NBA. Its an 82 game schedule. Back-to-back roadies are not easy. Doesn't matter if you are the best team in the league. Do you pessimists realize Chicago was FAVORED to win last night? For all the whiners second guessing the trade after last nights loss, Hughes still was 4-12 shooting. The Cavs are a better team since the trade. A deeper team since the trade. Its only been 6 games with the new players. RELAX!!!
East Side Joe

Chevy Chase, MD

#14 Mar 7, 2008
Not Surprised wrote:
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Unless you take into account a new line-up that is 2 weeks old and three of the veterans from the previous line-up are out. Obviously you've never played the game and I'm beginning to wonder if Buttley ever did either.
You're acting like a child. Barkley was right. It's that simple. He said the "Cavs were in trouble." He totally called it. Now Stop whining and grow up. Of course the team has injuries, yes it is a new line-up. We know all that.

I played four years of small Ohio college and coach locally. I'm not a Barkley fan either. But he was right.

“LeBron = Born-again Tribe Fan!”

Since: May 07

Tallmadge, Ohio

#16 Mar 7, 2008
Nowhere in the article, or in the diatribes here, is anything mentioned about LeBron's injury from last night.

He was on his way to 50 again until that collision, then he became mortal. And understandably so.

Cavs are fortunate that he didn't dislocate his elbow. Or, maybe he did.
Tdogg

Montgomery, AL

#17 Mar 7, 2008
You guys are funny, freaking out over ever little bump in the road. The team needs time to get to know each other and the plays.....not gonna happen in a few games. As suggested before, take a deep breath and relax, we have the best player in the NBA and a nice supporting cast. The playoffs will be the true test of this team, not relatively meaningless games against hapless foes. GO CAVS!!!!!!!!!
JKIDD

Akron, OH

#20 Mar 7, 2008
HOly crap, I actually agree with OMG for once. Maybe this snow IS the end of the world! 1 game does not a season make, good or bad. In the NBA teams take nights off all the time. Perhaps the Celtics are the only team that stays consistent. As for the Cavs, only time will tell
RPB

Pittsburgh, PA

#21 Mar 7, 2008
Ohio sports genius wrote:
<quoted text> And the Excuses come raining down, if it aint one thing its another, what about Wednesdays game at NY, I do not recall Z playing in that game, you know nothing about the game, all you know how to do is call people "idiots and knuckleheads". So STFU get your head outta your anus, and just admit it Danny (Fairy) made a stupid trade and this is just the begining of the Cavs demise. Its over in the first round of the playoffs... AWWWRIGHT.
I know nothing about the game? Lebron went off on the Knicks and scored 50 points. Damon Jones hit 5 three's. That made up for Z missing the game. Plus, the Knicks are absolutely horrible. Last night, they couldn't match up inside, AV's offensive game was horrible (because he was posting up), and Lebron didn't score 50.

The majority of the posts today prove my prediction that all of the knuckleheads and idiots would sound off about how bad the Cavs are. You, along with the rest of them will be changing your tune once the Cavs get healthy and make a run in the playoffs. If they don't, I'll admit I was wrong.

Instead of inserting a * in order to get away with profanity on here, why don't you come back with an intelligent counter-arguement to my post. Do you disagree with the fact that AV can't post up, and his 2-11 proved that? Were you a big Larry Hughes fan while he was here and did you cry when he was traded? Were you thrilled last year when the Cavs made the Finals, but now you criticize Ferry, Brown and the rest of them because they don't have the best record in the league?

Those are questions I would love to know yours and all the rest of the knuckleheads' answers to.

Go ahead, swear at me. You only prove my point.
East Side Joe Fan

Milwaukee, WI

#22 Mar 7, 2008
East Side Joe wrote:
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You're acting like a child. Barkley was right. It's that simple. He said the "Cavs were in trouble." He totally called it. Now Stop whining and grow up. Of course the team has injuries, yes it is a new line-up. We know all that.
I played four years of small Ohio college and coach locally. I'm not a Barkley fan either. But he was right.
I love when dudes start dropping their credentials on message boards as evidence that they are smarter than the rest of us. "Four years of small Ohio college and coach locally." Good for you, ESJ. Puff out that chest. You're my hero.
Problem is, you just gave away your real identity. Now that you've told us you coach locally, all we have to do is figure out which junior high girls' team from the east side is at the bottom of its league's standings, confirm that the coach's name is Joe, and we've found you. You will soon be revealed.
Your "Barkley was right" comment is a joke. Barkley says what he says without thinking at all and just to be controversial. What he was saying is that the Cavs are in trouble BECAUSE ALL TEAMS HAVE TO DO TO STOP THEM IS STOP LEBRON. Problem is, uh, no one has figured out how to do that yet...
The Cavs will be fine, and we will soon know all of the real details about ESJ's pathetic life. I can't wait.
GO CAVS!
Optimist

Venice, CA

#23 Mar 7, 2008
I'm not sold out to the way the Brown's handling the team. Imagine putting at the same time Ben and Anderson when he knows that they are both rebounders not a shooters.Lebron had only one assist because nobody can shoots.
Tdogg

Montgomery, AL

#24 Mar 7, 2008
East Side Joe Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I love when dudes start dropping their credentials on message boards as evidence that they are smarter than the rest of us. "Four years of small Ohio college and coach locally." Good for you, ESJ. Puff out that chest. You're my hero.
Problem is, you just gave away your real identity. Now that you've told us you coach locally, all we have to do is figure out which junior high girls' team from the east side is at the bottom of its league's standings, confirm that the coach's name is Joe, and we've found you. You will soon be revealed.
Your "Barkley was right" comment is a joke. Barkley says what he says without thinking at all and just to be controversial. What he was saying is that the Cavs are in trouble BECAUSE ALL TEAMS HAVE TO DO TO STOP THEM IS STOP LEBRON. Problem is, uh, no one has figured out how to do that yet...
The Cavs will be fine, and we will soon know all of the real details about ESJ's pathetic life. I can't wait.
GO CAVS!
That's hilarious!!
nick

New York, NY

#25 Mar 7, 2008
Old Man Grump wrote:
<quoted text>Your Wrong - trade was good for the Cavs, but injuries have negated the benefits. If Z, Sasha, and Boobie were healthy, this team would be winning every game now. Watch when all are back. GO CAVS !!!
and what exactly was sasha doing before he got injured ?? as fas as daniel gibson goes , he is nothing more than a spot up shooter . you make it seem like the absence of these players are preveting the cavs for reeling off 20 straight . not to mention that when these players come back , brown is gonna have a hard time finding minutes for all these guys (being that he's already horrible making adjustments and substitutions)
Optimist

Venice, CA

#26 Mar 7, 2008
I'm not impress the way coach Brown handling his team. Imagine putting Ben and Anderson at the same time.Both are rebounders. Lebron had only 1 assist and 3 rebounds. He cannot find somebody to shoot so he did it alone.
RPB

Pittsburgh, PA

#29 Mar 7, 2008
Ohio Sports Genius wrote:
<quoted text> Your just a fool, you keep blaming AV for the loss and do you actually expect LeBron to score 50 points every game, I just cant wait til he gets injured, then you can blame it on that reason. The Cavs have been playing a very weak schedule in the last eight games and should have won everygame, they proved they cannot beat teams with winning records except for a few teams like San Antonio, Boston will win it all against the Lakers in the finals. You also proved another point with your moronic rambling, the Cavs went to the finals last year, gee I wonder who was on the team then? your just stupid.
That a way! Call me stupid. Read my original post. I didn't blame AV for the loss. I said that him being forced to play with his back to the basket because Z was out cost them the game. AV gave it all he had, but his 2-11 showed he is not a post player.

When you have no inside scoring, and can't out-rebound your opponent, most of the time you will lose.

You can't wait until Lebron gets injured? Nice. You are some fan. But you are correct, if he were to get injured, I would blame his injury for any losses. Wouldn't you?
RPB

Pittsburgh, PA

#30 Mar 7, 2008
Ohio Sports Genius wrote:
<quoted text> Your just a fool, you keep blaming AV for the loss and do you actually expect LeBron to score 50 points every game, I just cant wait til he gets injured, then you can blame it on that reason. The Cavs have been playing a very weak schedule in the last eight games and should have won everygame, they proved they cannot beat teams with winning records except for a few teams like San Antonio, Boston will win it all against the Lakers in the finals. You also proved another point with your moronic rambling, the Cavs went to the finals last year, gee I wonder who was on the team then? your just stupid.
I'll answer your last question with a question. You think that the Cavs made the Finals last year because of Gooden and Hughes? They made it to the Finals because of Lebron. He is still here. But Z, Gibson, Pavlovic, and AV were all 100% healthy then too.

I also never said that I expect Lebron to score 50 a night. If you again READ, you will see that i pointed out that his 50 in addition to Jones' night overcame all the injuries including Z's.

Maybe I should post something, then re-post it with a "dumbed down" version so you can understand.

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