Cavs management drives hard bargains

Cavs management drives hard bargains

There are 22 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Dec 16, 2007, titled Cavs management drives hard bargains. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

Back in 2005, the Cavaliers earned themselves a somewhat undesirable reputation.

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Amherst, OH

#1 Dec 16, 2007
"The Bobcats have needed a big man with Sean May out for the season and have been making desperate moves, including signing Varejao to an offer sheet, in an attempt to get one. Based on speaking with some league executives, this one irked much of the Eastern Conference because it helped the Pistons out in both the short and long term."

How did the Bobcats offering Varejao an offer sheet help the Detroit Pistons?

Wouldn't it have hurt them by improving the Cavs' lineup?

New York, NY

#2 Dec 17, 2007
That's just sloppy writing. I think that should refer to the Nazr for Brezec and Hermann trade.

Canton, OH

#3 Dec 17, 2007
In other words, the Cavs are Cheap A$$es.
alan t

United States

#4 Dec 17, 2007
"Cleveland is not a destination NBA city. The Cavs hadn't been to the playoffs in eight years and were running through coaches. To land some players with their $28 million in salary-cap space, they had to offer more years and even load up the deals with reachable incentives."

My god, what total apologist crock. Nobody else was shopping for any of those lousy free agents, with the possible exception of Hughes. And we all know what a bargain he turned out to be.

Seriously, get somebody to build Gilbert and Ferry a statue already, I'm sick and tired of reading just how wonderful these two guys are.
larry d

Hixson, TN

#5 Dec 17, 2007
More spin.

How did the 2005 signings get the Cavs to the finals? Pick any three bums from the end of any team's bench and they'd contribute as much to a playoff run as Hughes, Marshall and D. Jones did last summer.

The team is too enamoured with veterans who don't produce and Ferry has painted himself into a corner. He's only tough on young, promising players who need training camp. He got Varejao on the cheap, but this season might be a wash for Sideshow. Eleven million for one season getting his legs back and one year looking forward to free agency.
Capt Obvious

Cleveland, OH

#6 Dec 17, 2007
OldManGrump wrote:
In other words, the Cavs are Cheap A$$es.
No...But you ARE A DUMBA$$. Moron.

United States

#7 Dec 17, 2007
Basketball people will tell you that Larry Hughes' defense was a HUGE reason the Cavs were able to beat the Pistons. His offense has been bad, but he still plays very good D. Not worth the money he's making, but he does contribute.

Stow, OH

#8 Dec 17, 2007
Is anybody surprised that Mild Thing and Pavlov's bitch aren't contributing? That they're hurting the team in the 4th quarter? These guys holdout for big $ and return to the team in lousy shape. They haven't learned the new wrinkles in the offense and they're too slow to get back on defense. Once training camp starts they should just let these stiffs move on. Unless, of course, you listen to OMG.

Stow, OH

#9 Dec 17, 2007
Pavlov's Butch
G Mc 2 Mack

Maple Heights, OH

#10 Dec 17, 2007
Isn't Danny Ferry the one who put the Cavs back into the financial irresponsibility mode in the first place? Let's be honest here, Ferry signed Z, Hughes, D.Jones, and D. Marshall to longer than necessary expensive contracts after Jim Paxton had finally cleared salary cap space (Trading Shawn Kemp, Kevin Ollie, Etc.) before getting fired?
Go Figure

Canton, OH

#11 Dec 17, 2007
The cavs have made very poor choices. Examples: D.Marshall is a over paid bum, and has done nothing for the Cavs. L. Hughes is a bigger bum, and a total waste of money. I don't know why L. James stayed. He can't do it by himself.
Geoff Huston

Dade City, FL

#12 Dec 17, 2007
How is it the Pistons can make a deal to clear salary space and the cavaliers cannot? Right now, it continues to be clear that the Cavaliers need a point guard. Pavlovic and Varejo, as expected, are not ready at all to place basketball and we are already sub-500 at the quarter point of the season. Either Ferry just figures this year is a wasted year or he has to make some move to upgrade the quality of this team.
Mike C

Cleveland, OH

#13 Dec 17, 2007
Are the people whining about the Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall contracts the same people who whine about the Indians not spending any money?
Donyell Marshall was a significant contributor to this team just last year, when he was averaging 7 points a game in just 16 minutes, while managing to shoot 42% from the field and 35% from 3-point range. That isn't spectacular, but consider that Devin Brown is scoring 6.6 ppg in 22 minutes, while shooting 35% from the field and 25% from 3. Brown isn't getting all of Marshall's minutes, but the point is, as mediocre as Donyell Marshall was last year, the Cavs haven't been able to replace his production.
I'm not justifying Marshall contract, I'm just saying that it's a lot harder to find productive players than everyone thinks it is.
Go Cavs.

Navarre, FL

#14 Dec 17, 2007
The only thing Hughes does is shoot bricks, that should be shots for LeBron. The only way the Cavs are going to win again is to encourage Lebron to shoot more, which in itself will open legit shooters for their shots. I am not worried about Sasha, because he is a pure shooter.

Snow is a good defender that doesn't look for his shot, because he knows his limitations. Coach should know by now that Hughes is the worst jump shooter in the league. To allow him to take so many shots is utter stupidity.

Canton, OH

#15 Dec 17, 2007
Capt Obvious wrote:
<quoted text>
No...But you ARE A DUMBA$$. Moron.
Sticks and stones can break my bones, but you sir are an A$$$$$$$$$$
larry whos

New York, NY

#16 Dec 17, 2007
I would love to watch game film with anyone who thinks Larry Hughes is such a good defender. In particular, please watch Andre Miller blow right by him untouched for an easy lay-up. That was worth the 14 million we pay him.

Cardington, OH

#17 Dec 17, 2007
its a rebuilding year--duh---salary dumps are coming after this year--is this the moron room? it sure looks that way---except for a few of you, sorry-- its hard to pick you all out amidst the noise of so called fans who dont a thing about what they are talking about or the business side of the sport. ferry is doing a magnificent job of setting this team up for long term--so we finish .500? who cares? let another team beat us for the east with what we have---and we will be getting better much better in the near future due to the moves of ferry. you think the pistons or celtics can beat us, this team as is, at playoff time? i bet not.
Cavs Fan

United States

#18 Dec 17, 2007
OldManGrump wrote:
<quoted text>Sticks and stones can break my bones, but you sir are an A$$$$$$$$$$
What an original comeback from the forum dumbf-ck.

Brunswick, OH

#19 Dec 17, 2007
Financial flexibility? There will be plenty when Lebron is in LA or New York.
Did anyone watch Sasha tonight? Horrible.
I don't think Shannon Brown played tonight-we had Ira in there instead.
When Mike Brown is on the sidelines drawing up those crazy plays, is anyone watching? Watch the huddles.
Go Cavs
Go for it

Strongsville, OH

#20 Dec 17, 2007
OldManGrump wrote:
<quoted text>Sticks and stones can break my bones, but you sir are an A$$$$$$$$$$
Look in the mirror Grump and then grump yurself

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