Skiles considering lineup maneuvers

Skiles considering lineup maneuvers

There are 22 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 12, 2007, titled Skiles considering lineup maneuvers. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

A busy Monday at the Berto Center featured a 3-hour-10-minute practice, a players-only meeting and Bulls coach Scott Skiles looking at lineup changes.

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basketball gods

Port Jefferson, NY

#1 Nov 12, 2007
either get rid of skiles or blow the team up
willard l

Waco, TX

#2 Nov 12, 2007
I feel that the bull's did little in the off season to improve this team . what have we realy learned ,that we did'nt already know. both guards are to short, and that we have no low post player, and no go to guy. as much as i like the players that we have, one or two curent starters would have been traded last summer or even now. there is always some kid in the draft to replace him. why do you think each team has scouts, make them earn there money. Paxson has gone as far as possible with this group of players, lets start again and maybe keep one or two and get rid of the others and take a chance on a trade or two. in my eye Paxson has one or two get out of jail free cards he can use.
ron

United States

#3 Nov 12, 2007
I agree! It's in Paxson's hands and the owner. Right now the Bulls are playing like they did in 2001. Everyone plays better once they leave Chicago! Why? Is it the coaching, helll the Bulls didn't use Tim Thomas when he was here!
John LA

Santa Monica, CA

#4 Nov 12, 2007
As previously suggested, it appears Reinie has brought Pax in for a visit. These are, indeed, his dogs.
jeremy

Schaumburg, IL

#5 Nov 13, 2007
lineup maneuvers won't change the hand dealt. team doesn't have leadership. i think trading heinrich for kobe would be a good move. maybe throw dang and ben gordon too. probably won't happen until this becomes more apparent to the team mgmt.
Cal ChiFan

Tustin, CA

#6 Nov 13, 2007
ron wrote:
I agree! It's in Paxson's hands and the owner. Right now the Bulls are playing like they did in 2001. Everyone plays better once they leave Chicago! Why? Is it the coaching, helll the Bulls didn't use Tim Thomas when he was here!
Thanks for that Tim Thomas comment! You have Malik Allen, Sweetney, Griffith coming off the bench and you can't use Tim Thomas? Would you rather have Tim Thomas or Joakim Noah coming off the bench?Remember they also dumped that 6'5" JR guy to Denver who promptly lit the Bulls up. Skiles can't coach REAL NBA players so, if he can't do it with this bunch, his tenure should be up.
Patrick

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#7 Nov 13, 2007
Cal ChiFan wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for that Tim Thomas comment! You have Malik Allen, Sweetney, Griffith coming off the bench and you can't use Tim Thomas? Would you rather have Tim Thomas or Joakim Noah coming off the bench?Remember they also dumped that 6'5" JR guy to Denver who promptly lit the Bulls up. Skiles can't coach REAL NBA players so, if he can't do it with this bunch, his tenure should be up.
Exactly Ron and Cal Chi-fan, we trade talent (Crawford, Curry & Chandler) for a bunch of guys that Skiles has no intention to ever use??? Sweetney, Harrington, Mutombo, Thomas, JR Smith the list goes on and on. Why trade for players you will release, cut or otherwise give away?

I know the Chandler move was purely to clear cap space so who did we sign? The Great Ben Wallace. Wow.

Paxson has been benefitting off the fact that he isn't Jerry Krause but I'm not sure he is better. Paxson is getting fleeced on deals with Isiah friggin Thomas.

Hey John please stop giving away talent for nothing. My sister can do that.
Florida Jim

Altamonte Springs, FL

#8 Nov 13, 2007
I am fully satisfied that Skiles and Paxson will resolve the issues and get the Team on-track. What bothers me is why should this happen with players who make enough money to never have to worry about money for several generations and yet cannot seem to do the basic basketball fundamentals at this stage of their lives?
Paas the ball to the open man, guard your man strongly, hit the open shots, rebound any misses at either end, handle the ball without turning it over, do not be selfish and play hard every possession-what I would not give to be able to earn a wonderful living playing a child's game.
Jon Heit

Waterloo, IA

#9 Nov 13, 2007
Right now is the best time to deal Deng and Gordon. Both have turned down contract extensions and might not want to be a part of the Bulls in the future. Kobe still has 5 to 6 all-star years left in him. Why not pull the trigger and get this team jumpstarted while there is still time?
Joe

Sparks, NV

#10 Nov 13, 2007
The Bulls have put together a team with a bunch of complementary parts. They don't have any leaders, on and off the floor. That's what happens when you have a head coach that doesn't like stars and big egos. Building a team with good charcter is fine. But this is the NBA. It's not a 7th-grade junior high team. You need stars in the NBA if you want to win a championship.
joe cop

Vernon Hills, IL

#11 Nov 13, 2007
I like Skiles and I like Paxson. But im starting to get really frustrated. Keep Deng and Thomas, get ride of the rest for Koby. And for all the haters who complain about Koby. I can remember one of the best basketball players cheating on his wife and complaining about players. Does Michael Jordan ring a bell. ANd what happend? 6 championships??? Big time players will complain and will do stupid things, big deal. doesnt hide the fact that they are phenominal basketball players. When will Chicago Realize this and actually want to have star players and not mediocre ones.
terry t

Lahaina, HI

#12 Nov 13, 2007
unbelieve-a-bull!!! 4th straight year that skile's bulls come out of the gate pathetically. 4th straight year that hinrich begins the year stinking. 4th straight year that nobody calls for their heads. jamal crawford was run out of town for playing better than hinrich. jay williams, ditto. instead of sending gordon to the bench, why not hinrich? can't he score from the bench? why not trade his sorry behind for kobe? i guess that would be a lopsided trade no matter who you would include. lakers would not be so stupid. nor would any other team. i think that the team realizes that hinrich doesn't want gordon to overshadow him,(note how he avoids passing to gordon until the last seconds) and skiles is orchestrating the conspiracy. skiles sucks and so does hinrich. i'm beginning to think that they get a free pass by race! how else can you explain it?
Terry T

Bloomingdale, IL

#13 Nov 13, 2007
The fact of the matter is that Paxson looks silly today for so emphatically nixing the Kobe trade two weeks ago. Other than Tyrus and "Noc", I don't think there is anybody worth protecting on this team. Very little upside potential except possibly from Noah. And, when are we going to get a legitimate point guard who can run, gun and pass with the best of them? We have no real QB on this team; no floor leader that I can see.

Since: Oct 07

Chicago, IL

#14 Nov 13, 2007
Isn't Jalen Rose still out there somewhere? We could use a Jalen infusion into this offense right about now. He's got at least 50 games in him still ... I'm stretching. OK, so the current thought process is to have Gordon come off the bench and start Duhon? Hinrich is playing like dog poop and we're going to go with a Duhon/Hinrich backcourt? Skiles might want to rethink this.
Larry in Lincolnwood

United States

#15 Nov 13, 2007
Repeat the mantra- Play Aaron Gray!
Otherwise, why did you draft him and sign him?
4rac4

Salt Lake City, UT

#16 Nov 13, 2007
If the Bulls can't get it together within the next 10-15 games than they got to make a trade.
kbcali

Pasadena, CA

#17 Nov 13, 2007
Some of these comments come from guys that don't know a whole lot about basketball, players or the Chicago Bulls. First of all, Jay Williams did not get "run out of town for playing better than hinrich". Jay Williams had a motorcycle accident that ended his playing days in chicago and hinrich was drafted (days later) for that reason. Williams and Hinrich never even played together.

Secondly, as much as I did not mind having Curry and Crawford (was never big on Chandler) our current team is obviously better and our future is brighter. When did we win 49 gamesand make it to the second round of the playoffs with Crawford, Curry and Chandler? Never. So this team is clearly better. Trading Crawford and Chandler was the absolute right thing to do. Crawford was not coachable, Chandler was not getting better (neither has he yet) and Tim Thomas was a cancer who would have poisoned the work ethic of our young players. We've gotten off to a slow start (like the last 2 playoff seasons) but I think we'll be ok. And one final thing, please don't compare Kobe w/ Michael because after the physical comparisons, it ends. It ends because Kobe is not nearly as mature or mentally tough as Jordan and maturity and mental toughness are required to lead teams to championships and Kobe does not have either. He owes his championships to the presence of Shaq and now the whole world knows that.
Please Stop

Massapequa, NY

#18 Nov 13, 2007
jeremy wrote:
i think trading heinrich for kobe would be a good move. maybe throw dang and ben gordon too.
Trade the three best players? Who is Kobe supposed to win this championship with?
Patrick

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#19 Nov 13, 2007
kbcali wrote:
Some of these comments come from guys that don't know a whole lot about basketball, players or the Chicago Bulls. First of all, Jay Williams did not get "run out of town for playing better than hinrich". Jay Williams had a motorcycle accident that ended his playing days in chicago and hinrich was drafted (days later) for that reason. Williams and Hinrich never even played together.
Secondly, as much as I did not mind having Curry and Crawford (was never big on Chandler) our current team is obviously better and our future is brighter. When did we win 49 gamesand make it to the second round of the playoffs with Crawford, Curry and Chandler? Never. So this team is clearly better. Trading Crawford and Chandler was the absolute right thing to do. Crawford was not coachable, Chandler was not getting better (neither has he yet) and Tim Thomas was a cancer who would have poisoned the work ethic of our young players. We've gotten off to a slow start (like the last 2 playoff seasons) but I think we'll be ok. And one final thing, please don't compare Kobe w/ Michael because after the physical comparisons, it ends. It ends because Kobe is not nearly as mature or mentally tough as Jordan and maturity and mental toughness are required to lead teams to championships and Kobe does not have either. He owes his championships to the presence of Shaq and now the whole world knows that.
The only thing you got right in your entire rambling post was what you wrote about J. Williams. Should have quit while you were ahead.

Have you ever heard of player development? Yeah, well neither have Skiles or Paxson. You cannot possibly be serious when you write that in retrospect it was a good a idea to get rid of Chandler, Curry and Crawford. You're telling me you like the current Bulls roster more than having Curry or Chandler in it? You're telling me that Chandler has not improved since he got away from Skiles?

You have no idea what you are talking about. Curry is easily one of the top 5 scoring post players in the league. Chandler is playing like an untradable asset since he got away from Skiles. Everyone who watches basketball seems to know this except you. Please stop the excessive crack abuse that you're obviously engaging..it's destroying your mind.

Please stop with the incredibly stupid Jordan/Kobe comparisons. What does that have to do with anything? You're an idiot!!!
Joeyest

Waukegan, IL

#20 Nov 13, 2007
I think,it has something to do with the coach now. Skiles, if we look back on last years season,he gave up a lot of those easy win games.He doesn't seem to care about breaking the opponents momentum when they started making a run. I think, he needs to be more focus on this wherein he could guide his team into a winning situation to help out the hard effort of his players instead of wasting it.

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