Rare Bulls risk isn't delivering

Rare Bulls risk isn't delivering

There are 35 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 20, 2007, titled Rare Bulls risk isn't delivering. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

It didn't appear to be out of anger, deep and bubbling over after simmering for weeks, the result of the early-season frustration because of the Bulls slow start.

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ron

Park Ridge, IL

#1 Nov 21, 2007
the problem isn't thomas, it's skiles he doesn't know how to motivate his players a sign of a very bad coach,all he do is bark like a dog and all his play designs sucks big time rely heavily on the guards when the game is played by big men in a game of giants.FIRE THE BONEHEAD COACH
Debbie

Springfield, IL

#2 Nov 21, 2007
Speaking of Chandler...Why is it that he is posting very impressive numbers in NO? Sure, CP3 is getting him the ball, but the rest of that lineup is certainly comparable to the Bulls. I would take Chandler, shortcomings and all, over Ben Wallace any day. The Bulls let him go too soon.
Larry In Lincolnwood

Chicago, IL

#3 Nov 21, 2007
Skiles deserves some respect. He has done more with less the past 4 years.
The problem is that the Bulls organization gambled on some of these guys getting better whereas they are incapable- they are what they are. I don't see the Bulls winning more than 20 this year unless there is a major trade. They need to dump Wallace to a team where he can be the 6th man for defensive purposes that would give them a playoff edge. Gordon has to go- he is too small and lacks the guts to play bigger like the other great short players.
Wisconsin reader

United States

#4 Nov 21, 2007
Clearly Wallace was a mistake . . . 60 mil over 4 years is a big salary cap hit . . . They needed inside offense and do not have it. . . Thomas was a risk they could not afford (even when he plays better than he does now, that was not the primary need) . . . should have taken the best big man available.
Tice

Toccoa Falls, GA

#6 Nov 21, 2007
Chandler should have never been traded. The trade made no sense. The team got shorter after the trade. They were short in the backcourt to begin with and giving up your best defensive player was stupid. He didn't awesome stats but if you knew basketball, unlike Paxson, you saw that he altered shots and provided some intimidation with his long arms and stature. He was able to make it difficult for a lot of players to shoot over him or by him. It made better sense to have Wallace and Chandler on the same team defensively and go for a scorer in the draft.
start Thomas Gardner

Oak Park, IL

#7 Nov 21, 2007
Tyrus should have stayed at LSU for another year or two of seasoning. You can have all the talent in the world but unless you use it properly you won't be sucessful.
he clearly thinks he's smarter than the coach and this is not going to work for either him or Skiles.
he needs to be humbled by a NBA veteran like PJ Brown tried to do last year. unfortunately PJ had his own issues.
Mark

AOL

#8 Nov 21, 2007
LaMarcus Aldridge would look great in a Bulls uniform right about now, don't you think?
Jim from Cicero

Hinsdale, IL

#9 Nov 21, 2007
I liked the signing of Wallace, with the intent of having him starting next to Tyson Chandler. Chandler is a 7-10pts, 10-12rbd, 2blk per game kind of guy. Tyson was guilty of overplaying here and it's a shame they gave up on him so quickly, because when he doesn't have to do it all he is very good at his roll. As for those who say Pax or Skiles are stupid; make a choice and death is not an option: The Bulls now or the Bulls pre-Paxson/Skiles? Yeah, put it in perspective guys.

Since: Oct 07

Chicago, IL

#11 Nov 21, 2007
ron wrote:
the problem isn't thomas, it's skiles he doesn't know how to motivate his players a sign of a very bad coach,all he do is bark like a dog and all his play designs sucks big time rely heavily on the guards when the game is played by big men in a game of giants.FIRE THE BONEHEAD COACH
You don't seem to get it Ron, nor do I think you really know anything about basketball or the way the bulls run their offense. Yes, they do need their guards to play well, and they use the pick and roll a lot to CREATE opportunities inside. Skiles is right in that Thomas has to hustle. The Bulls got beat by Denver's ability to run the floor and create turnovers and points off the fast break. Skiles is asking Thomas to run the floor because he knows that if Gordon, Hinrich or Duhon can find him as they push it up the court, Thomas can easily score on a high percentage shot. For example of how to do this poorly, see the 3-on-1 situation in the 2nd quarter last night with Hinrich pushing it up an Noah and Wallace under the basket ... Noah dropped Hinrich's pass -- which it looks like he was trying to make another pass to Wallace -- and they failed to convert. If Noah dunks that ball instead, it's a momentum swing, if only temporarily.

Thomas is the best athlete on the floor sometimes and he doesn't show it on a nightly basis, which is exactly what Skiles is asking for. I agree with other comments in saying that Thomas is young and should have had more coaching in college, but what are you going to do? He got drafted and now he just needs to produce -- like LeBron, Melo, etc. He has to play to his ability, which is huge.
Jerome

United States

#12 Nov 21, 2007
Bulls are baaaaaaad this year. Get a big name player or fire the coach.
Boe

Wheaton, IL

#13 Nov 21, 2007
Sam, why do you dog on Tyrus so much? This kid (really, he's a kid) is, what, 19 or 20? Yes, he gets paid millions to do what he does, but that fact alone doesn't mean a writer in his middle age has the right to dog on him so consistently. Why in the world does Kirk Hinrich avoid this kind of glaring speculation? By all accounts, he is having a terrible season -- he simply can't hit a shot. Why has there not been a Sam Smith column devoted solely to the struggles of Kirk Hinrich? Until you even out your perspective, myself and other writers will simply see you as someone intent on running Tyrus out of town.
wicker park

Eau Claire, WI

#14 Nov 21, 2007
LOL. Tyrus Thomas is in the beginning of his second season. Is he even 21 yet? Sam Smith is now on par with Jay Marrioti; that is not a good thing.

john from chi

Eau Claire, WI

#15 Nov 21, 2007
It is ironic that you suggest Tyrus Thomas may be a bust but yet suggest that the Bulls may have given up on Chandler too soon.
Makaveli

Monee, IL

#16 Nov 21, 2007
Get rid of SKILES and let this team RUN and then we will have some sort of success. I must admit Skiles has done a good job up to this point but it reminds of the Doug Collins scenario.....
Mr Obvious

United States

#17 Nov 21, 2007
Boe wrote:
Sam, why do you dog on Tyrus so much? This kid (really, he's a kid) is, what, 19 or 20? Yes, he gets paid millions to do what he does, but that fact alone doesn't mean a writer in his middle age has the right to dog on him so consistently. Why in the world does Kirk Hinrich avoid this kind of glaring speculation? By all accounts, he is having a terrible season -- he simply can't hit a shot. Why has there not been a Sam Smith column devoted solely to the struggles of Kirk Hinrich? Until you even out your perspective, myself and other writers will simply see you as someone intent on running Tyrus out of town.
Quite simply, he gets paid big money to play the game. The issue here is HUSTLE; they're not asking him to do anything other than play hard, which he doesn't do consistently. The fact he's 19 or 20 years old doesn't mean a damn thing -- if he's going to take the money he better damn well put forth the effort. Hinrich may be playing like crap, but he's not dogging it. And if you look at other columnists in this paper and its rival, you'll see that Hinrich is taking his fair share of abuse also.
ballhog1

Springfield, IL

#18 Nov 21, 2007
Skiles is a f***ing idiot! If anything, the bulls management needs to run his dumb ass outta here. He can't evaluate or develop talented players. He'll ruin THOMAS if he's allowed to by Paxson. He thinks that Hinrich is the best player on the team. What does that tell 'ya?
FireScottSkiles

Chicago, IL

#19 Nov 21, 2007
So when is Pax going to look at the coach as the key problem with the Bulls?

What has Skiles ever won anyway?
Ed Whitson

Fargo, ND

#20 Nov 21, 2007
I don't buy this article.
P Morgan

Chicago, IL

#21 Nov 21, 2007
I'm confuse why Skiles focus on Tyrus. I have seen some of these horrible games. He should be focusing on Wallace, Hinrich, Gordon, Sefalosha, Duhon, Deng, and Nocioni as well. They are hardworking overachievers as basketball players, but none of them have the talent to dominate at their position. They do not have any playmakers. Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Derron Williams type of players who make other players around them better.
Jack

United States

#22 Nov 21, 2007
Face it: Thomas will never be more than a more athletic version of scotty williams. That's his ceiling. He can not shoot, and he's not an effort player like rodman. In short, a bust at #2. But that whole draft was weak. Paxson should have traded down.

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