Orlando Magic frustrated about these ...

Orlando Magic frustrated about these playoffs but optimistic ab...

There are 102 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from May 14, 2008, titled Orlando Magic frustrated about these playoffs but optimistic ab.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Here's an idea of how far the Orlando Magic have come on their NBA journey to relevancy: Four years ago, they finished with the worst record in the league and landed Dwight Howard as a consolation prize.

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The Fury

United States

#21 May 15, 2008
As soon as Jameer Nelson is traded, the Magic will win more playoff series'. He is the weakness. A true point guard cannot average as many turnovers as assists. Gut the team for a good point guard(Arenas or Calderon). They would probably take a pay cut to come play in Orlando. Maybe Rashard should donate some of his contract to getting a real point guard for he and Dwight.
Yea Right

Apopka, FL

#22 May 15, 2008
Who cares about the magic.Leave town already pro basketball is a pointless and only played by thugs and hoodlums.
voncracker

Cocoa, FL

#23 May 15, 2008
Well, I am not sure the Magic are better than the Pistons just yet, but they are rapidly approaching that plateau. Besides I have some great souvenirs from the series: I have Piston pants, I have Piston shorts ,
I have Piston glasses, I have Piston ashtrays, I have Piston shoes, I think I've even have Piston coffee cups and mugs.(thanks Tim Cavanagh!)
esteban

United States

#24 May 15, 2008
Nanningbob wrote:
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Certainly dont know much about using cap space do you?? There are teams that have been over the cap for years and still get the players they want or need. Orlando's cap space is still very manageable and flexible enough to get things done.
no its not. Dumb comment. they have not flexibility at all. they have the mid-level exception. Wow, they can bring in a couple of scubs
Amused

Winter Garden, FL

#25 May 15, 2008
Ha they may be better than the Pistons "at times" but clearly those times are far outnumbered by the times that the Pistons are the better team.
fernando vargas

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#27 May 15, 2008
The aberration of Mr. Smith with J.N, is the key of the elimination the last two years, also Mr. Howard need real help on the paint area
Roger

Scottsmoor, FL

#28 May 15, 2008
Waaa-waaa-waaa..."We're still better!"
CRYBABIES!!!! What else would you expect.
Next

Kalamazoo, MI

#29 May 15, 2008
Now, we have proof that the Magic players bought some drugs while in Detroit. The only way they could spew this junk is if thier mind is toxic from the drugs.

Detroit proved all they needed to on the court.

So, Magic, shut-up and start your off-season.
LMAO

AOL

#30 May 15, 2008
LOL. Back to the basics we go once again.

Owners that sell cleaning products (ponzi style) and decided to buy the team and let the son-in-law run it.

Hire as GenMgr a loser that never has won anything and actually went to Jacksonvile U (hahahaha) great back ground.

Now a coach that admits he's a dumba-ss publicly and that wasnt even a good college divII coach. Great move. It will probably take about 1/2 this coming season to get the palyers to realize this guy cant coach.

Geezus the Pistons 2nd unit can probably beat Orlando at this time. Well that was pretty obvious though.

Howard is a nice guy that can jump. He's a tossup as the worse shooter in the NBA with Ben Wallace.
He cant dribble, cant pass, cant stop making turnovers and was beatdown so bad by the Pistons he just gives up.
Hack-a-Howard is what he has to look forward too.

There's no winners on the team. Starting from the top down. Hell, Joe Dumars could probably field a better Magic team in one year than these losers(management) ever will.

Keep the faith fans... The Magic will surely be at least in the top 20 teams next year, LOL!
Angel

Orlando, FL

#32 May 15, 2008
LMAO wrote:
LOL. Back to the basics we go once again.
Owners that sell cleaning products (ponzi style) and decided to buy the team and let the son-in-law run it.
Hire as GenMgr a loser that never has won anything and actually went to Jacksonvile U (hahahaha) great back ground.
Now a coach that admits he's a dumba-ss publicly and that wasnt even a good college divII coach. Great move. It will probably take about 1/2 this coming season to get the palyers to realize this guy cant coach.
Geezus the Pistons 2nd unit can probably beat Orlando at this time. Well that was pretty obvious though.
Howard is a nice guy that can jump. He's a tossup as the worse shooter in the NBA with Ben Wallace.
He cant dribble, cant pass, cant stop making turnovers and was beatdown so bad by the Pistons he just gives up.
Hack-a-Howard is what he has to look forward too.
There's no winners on the team. Starting from the top down. Hell, Joe Dumars could probably field a better Magic team in one year than these losers(management) ever will.
Keep the faith fans... The Magic will surely be at least in the top 20 teams next year, LOL!
wow, you're a douche. 52 wins and the 2nd round and still everyone is still incopedent to you? you should go back to cheering for Miami
Say what Otis

Orlando, FL

#33 May 15, 2008
"Smith feels the return of power forward Tony Battie will shore up the defense and rebounding warts exposed by Detroit." "He expects center Adonal Foyle, Brian Cook and Marcin Gortat in a rotation of bigs"

He does not really believe that does he? He didn't really say that did he?

Here are Tony Batties stats during his time with the Magic.
04-05 RPG 5.6 FT% 72
05-06 RPG 5.6 FT% 66
06-07 RPG 5.2 FT% 67

So Battie's five boards per game, Brian Cooks 2 boards per game, Foyle who won't have any boards per game since Stan is afraid to play him and Gortat are what Otis is relying on to get past Detroit next year. Looks like another 4 or 5 game series until the Otis gets a clue.

Otis also says "We are a better basketball team-at times". Yes he is right they are better in the times the Pistons are coasting, until crunch time. Then when the Pistons turn up the heat defensively and rebounding the Magic are helpless.

The team needs another (or maybe their first) defensive minded stopper (guard) and a legitimate rebounder/post defender.
PistonFan

Hattiesburg, MS

#35 May 15, 2008
The Atlanta Hawks took the Celtics to 7 games and the Magic couldn't win 2 against the Billups-less Pistons AND with 'Sheed giving Dwight Howard some pointers!!!
NO YOU ARE NOT THE BETTER TEAM!!!!
But I do see some potential and maybe next year they will be better prepared.
Tom from Hunters Creek

Vejle, Denmark

#36 May 15, 2008
The Magic will never make it past the 2nd round of the playoff's until they have a solid power forward & can beat a playoff opponent while playing an average game.
LMAO

AOL

#37 May 15, 2008
Say what Otis wrote:
"Smith feels the return of power forward Tony Battie will shore up the defense and rebounding warts exposed by Detroit." "He expects center Adonal Foyle, Brian Cook and Marcin Gortat in a rotation of bigs"
He does not really believe that does he? He didn't really say that did he?
Here are Tony Batties stats during his time with the Magic.
04-05 RPG 5.6 FT% 72
05-06 RPG 5.6 FT% 66
06-07 RPG 5.2 FT% 67
So Battie's five boards per game, Brian Cooks 2 boards per game, Foyle who won't have any boards per game since Stan is afraid to play him and Gortat are what Otis is relying on to get past Detroit next year. Looks like another 4 or 5 game series until the Otis gets a clue.
Otis also says "We are a better basketball team-at times". Yes he is right they are better in the times the Pistons are coasting, until crunch time. Then when the Pistons turn up the heat defensively and rebounding the Magic are helpless.
The team needs another (or maybe their first) defensive minded stopper (guard) and a legitimate rebounder/post defender.
Great Post. I have said that since the season started that Battie wont help. You know the facts , plus add just how sorry the 2's are...Evans and Bogans are no where near being able to play against the Pistons, for that matter not much of any other team.

Guards? No viable PG's. One 2 guard that found out what a bunch of crap is going on(Redick.)
The rest not much hope. Dwight gets boards & dunks. Lewis misses 3's in the crunch time, Turk thinks he's M. Jordan at crunch time and fails miserably.
Although he is pretty good at turning the ball over or throwing it away. Has been all season.

Duh! The only I admire is at least they think they have a good team. Thats better than saying they suck, LOL!
Outatime

United States

#38 May 15, 2008
Nanningbob wrote:
<quoted text>
Certainly dont know much about using cap space do you?? There are teams that have been over the cap for years and still get the players they want or need. Orlando's cap space is still very manageable and flexible enough to get things done.
Another idiotic post from Nanningbob. The Magic will be over the cap because of the pay increases in existing contracts. Historically,the Magic do not go much beyond the cap limit, ala the Knicks and Mavericks. They have the mid-level to use if they choose. They can sign and trade their free-agents-to-be, although I can't imagine why another team would want to. So it comes down to trading someone who is signed already (JJ?) and maybe packaging a draft pick for either a higher draft choice or a proven player. For those who want Vasquez to come over, he is 230 lbs and will get destroyed under the basket. I'd rather give minutes to Gortat. He looks like he likes to bang under the basket. For the players returning, they need to learn fundamentals like blocking out for rebounds. Howard and Nelson are the only players who consistently do that. Rebounding is to a large degree mental. You have to want it more than anyone else. Barkley and Rodman were great rebounders and they were both only around 6'5". Also, there is only one way to improve free throw shooting - practise - 500 a day. Have a nice summer.
Bob Rockledge

United States

#39 May 15, 2008
The Fury wrote:
As soon as Jameer Nelson is traded, the Magic will win more playoff series'. He is the weakness. A true point guard cannot average as many turnovers as assists. Gut the team for a good point guard(Arenas or Calderon). They would probably take a pay cut to come play in Orlando. Maybe Rashard should donate some of his contract to getting a real point guard for he and Dwight.
Why not trade turnover machine Turk for Calderon? Point guard is our only true weakness w/Battie returning.
Moguns

Longwood, FL

#40 May 15, 2008
The Magic have two backups at shooting guard that they hope combined equal one starting guard. Guess what, two backups means you have two backups. They are both similar (limited) players, which is why the radio anouncer calls them Moguns since they are basically the same. No need to bring them both back. We saw how good their defense was in games four and five when Hamilton scored whenever he felt like it. It was also nice seeing Nelson get schooled in the 4th quarter of the elimination game by a rookie. Good thing we've got him locked up long-term. How about the Magic get a defensive player, I think they have enough 3 point gunners at this point.
Longtimefan

Jacksonville, FL

#42 May 15, 2008
1:10 pm. 2 minutes ago I just heard on ESPN that JJ Redick has publicly announced play him or trade him!!! I say trade him and move up in the draft!!!
rrlarry

Cincinnati, OH

#43 May 15, 2008
Humility in professional sports is almost nill, and the Orlando Magic dont improve that image at all.
Gloom and Doom

Silver Spring, MD

#44 May 15, 2008
LMFAO. They "insist" they are better. Yeah, Right, 4 to 1 shows just how much better they are. Someone coined the term Orlando Tragic. I like that.

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