Lakers too much for Bulls

Lakers too much for Bulls

There are 42 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 18, 2008, titled Lakers too much for Bulls. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Pau Gasol scored 24 of his season-high 34 points in the first half, and the Lakers rebounded from their first setback of the season with a 116-109 victory over the Bulls on Tuesday night.

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mack the knife

Beirut, Lebanon

#2 Nov 19, 2008
What ever happened to defense and why isn't Thabo used? I would have thought he would have defended against Kobe? Like every one who sees and cares, the front court is very weak. Noah is a disappointment and looks like he just does not care.

Northbrook, IL

#3 Nov 19, 2008
Okay, bottom line is this: When the Bulls drive to the basket and/or keep the ball moving rather than standing around and holding the ball acting as if the defender will politely move out of the way so they can shoot, they are much more effective on offense and defense. The only player that seems to fully understand this on the Bulls is Derrick Rose (not surprisingly). Ben Gordon can realize it at times, but hes usually not looking for anyones shot but his own which can be a problem sometimes. I don't understand how Drew Gooden is allowed to sit inside the three point line and take long jumpers, I dont care if he makes his first 3 of the game, it is so dumb to keep doing that. YOU ARE NOT A SHOOTING GUARD DREW! BANG INSIDE AND LOOK FOR SOME OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS IF ANYTHING! However, if this team can learn to stop shooting so many jumpers they will be a fairly good team, I would say they would be capable of getting the 6th seed in the East, thats a big IF though. Vinny Del Negro needs to give them a swift kick to the buttocks and tell them to play smarter.
Michael P Coy

Oswego, IL

#4 Nov 19, 2008
Great to hear from Phil again. A coach that never pulls any punches. "Thin inside" you bet! Paxson could have got a front court player for Kirk and any other combination, now he's in a deeper hole than before with nothing but a couple of crappy draft picks and a real lack of vision.

Bolingbrook, IL

#5 Nov 19, 2008
Where's Deng? This guy is proving the 70+million contract is one of our biggest mistakes. But given the bulls gave Hinrich 55million, they had no choice. Gordon should have been the 1st option to resign this year. Deng isn't a leader on the floor nor does he have a game to get his own shot. Is anyone else tired of him firing away at that broke jump shot right now. Drive the lane...stop shooting jumpers because you aren't making them as consistently as you were 2 seasons ago.
Noah was a bad pick by Paxson! He's such of goof in this game and doesn't make any impact whatsoever. I'm tired of looking at this guy stumble up and down the court.
I would replace Deng in the starting lineup with Noce...but there's one problem...his huge contract!

Adelaide, Australia

#6 Nov 19, 2008
The real story from this game is that a guy barely into his rookie season led his team by example - once again. A team featuring an undersized, out of shape pot head at center whose only note worthy career move to date has been dressing like a clown at draft night, is always going to get beaten by decent teams like this.
florida bear

Saint Augustine, FL

#7 Nov 19, 2008
Not to be negitive,with the bulls having such an upside with rose but it was sickning watching the bulls being torched by the guy[gasol]they could have had,and losing because of the guy[deng]paxton would`nt trade!!!!!!!

Homer Glen, IL

#8 Nov 19, 2008
Vinnie Del Negro is NBA for Terry Bevington.
Rose fan

Riverdale, IL

#9 Nov 19, 2008
Paxton favoring Kirk will be the Bulls Doom! Kirks finished! He doesn't fit into the Bulls future. Trade him "NOW". He sucks! We need a power foward or a veteran center! Either get rid of Kirk and Paxton, or we are in for a long ride this winter! Give Rose some real players, Bulls management, quit being "CHEAP". I know the team is ran and managed by "JEWS", but my GOD! Give the fans some type of enjoyment! Quit being "GREEDY". Spend some Dam Money! We suffered enough with the CUBS! Chicago is some cheap Bastards!

Schaumburg, IL

#10 Nov 19, 2008
got a feel sorry for the rose kid. nobody else on this team is worth their contract. hinwreck, dang, the joker, gunner gordon the goner, thebo or whatever his name is doesn't play cause he can't when he's on court. nocioni shoots and misses. 0-7. let's see what paxson does now. my guess is nothing.

Atlanta, GA

#11 Nov 19, 2008
Phil was being nice. Paxson does NOT have successful GM skills.

Houston, TX

#12 Nov 19, 2008
florida bear wrote:
Not to be negitive,with the bulls having such an upside with rose but it was sickning watching the bulls being torched by the guy[gasol]they could have had,and losing because of the guy[deng]paxton would`nt trade!!!!!!!
If we were able to get Gasol last year, there is no way to know if we would have still gotten Rose. We may have won more games and even made the playoffs, thus finishing outside of the lottery draft. Who knows what would have happened. I like how it turned out and that we have Rose. We finally have a true star to build around.
Tenn Tuxedo

United States

#13 Nov 19, 2008
Is it just me or does anyone else find it funny that the Bulls are so bad?

Poor decisions by mngt and bad coaching have made Chicago a place where player do not want to go to for the past decade and it's become funny.

It was the same way with the Blackhawks until this year when mngt actually cares but I found it funny that the Hawks were so bad year after year. Thankfully WW isn't around anymore to ruin the Hawks and his son actually cares.

Go anyone else that plays the Bulls!!

Atlanta, GA

#14 Nov 19, 2008
Keep dreaming. Paxson has NOT shown the ability 2 build an NBA title contending team.

Cleveland, OH

#15 Nov 19, 2008
I'm a Cavs fan but I watched the Bulls-Lakers game last night. How come Vinny Del Negro doesn't start Aaron Gray at center instead of Joakim Noah? Noah looks awful and at times, wasn't even getting back on D. It seemed like Gray could at least bang around underneath and draw some fouls. Is Gray usually worse than this?

Shorewood, IL

#16 Nov 19, 2008
I have said it before - institute a $50 fine for anyone who shoots from beyond 17 feet and doesn't make it. Make these guys learn to get away from so many jump shots.

Isn't Gray a pleasant surprise? He is improving.

Since: Aug 08

Springfield, IL

#17 Nov 19, 2008
Ben Gordon shoots 6-22 and 3-11 on three's. Follow that up with three turnovers. I think for right now the Bulls/Vinny and the coaches are sold on Ben as the only way(other then Derrick) they can generate consistent offense. Some nights he'll hit all the shots and lead the team to offensive success, and others he'll be like he was against the Lakers; awful with what about 27% from the field. Those are D-League numbers and something you're definitely going to get some nights from Ben. Meanwhile such a gambling overreliance on an inconsistent player just shows how pathetic the coaches appraisal, and rightfully so, of our bigs, namely Noah and Thomas. Even Gooden looks lost on certain nights, making bonehead passes and overrelying on way outside jumpers. Still, at least he shoots a decent % overall from the field. Noce can get to the basket with proper spacing against teams not loaded with quality bigs like the Lakers are. Still, the Bulls are very limited with Bigs even with Gray because usually he gets whipped defensively and is a walking designated foul. It just so happens Gasol's game involves a lot of hooks and tunraround short jumpers that don't create contact so Gray was actually able to stay out of foul trouble. Hughes showed why he, like Gordon, is a one night wonder because his shooting % overall is lame, and he while playing some solid 'D' at times makes boneheaded decisions passsing the ball in transition which is not what you need from a slasher. Lets face it, other than Rose, the Bulls have a less than mediocre team unless Deng finds a way to get his shooting % back up in the high 40's instead of 39% he's pathetically at right now. Somebody please get reinsdorf to fire Paxson so we can get some better players to compliment emerging star 25 pts(on way over 50% shooting) 9 assts only 2 to's, Mr. Derrick Rose

Barrington, IL

#18 Nov 19, 2008
People are being rude to Noah. Noah is NBA-ready! He has a place in the NBA.

Just not as a player. He'd make a great mascot for a team somewhere, I'm sure.

Trade him for some United Center nachos!
kc junior

Seoul, Korea

#20 Nov 19, 2008 ..kc..yeah..i am still reading ur pathetic column

deng it..pulled out........ok..will be out a dude is a, can't believe a former dukie is like this..well, he only stayed one, he's a real professional..

today, i'm starting the 'deng it: get of chicago countdown'..including u deng it kisser of a joke writer..

this player..has the balls to say..i'll be out a noc..and don't bring him back..his excuse last talk...then injury..come on..his injuries were minor..since he has no natural abilities..he has to be 100%

players that fit..of course with rose is..gordon..gooden..noc..gray - just sit him on the bench..
plz vinny..don't play those 2're better than those 2 clowns...go bulls..rose is the hair noc
mike s

Northbrook, IL

#21 Nov 19, 2008
Noah is a bust. Deng is a bust. Hinrich is overrated and still doesn't have a consistent jump shot. Tyrus thinks he's got Horace Grant range when he actually has Michael Ruffin range.

Ben Gordon is one of the few guys in the entire league who can create space for himself at will and has a deadly j (last night notwithstanding.)

Derrick Rose should have had 12 or 13 assists last night but no one can hit open jumpers. Plus - as many have mentioned above - Deng has developed a case of Brad Sellers Disease. You know - when you're tall and able to go the hoop but refuse to do so.

Our offensive sets are terrible and this season will not be one where the Bulls make the playoffs so here's what I suggest. Copy - play by play - the sets the Hornets run. Tyrus has as much if not more athletic ability than Chandler and we all know Rose is smart enough to get the ball to the right person. Pick and rolls at the top with Derrick penetrating the lane EVERY TIME. Why not do this? It can't be worse than the cement mixer that Vinny calls his 'half court offense'.

The good news is that we finally have a piece to build around. Unfortunately, I don't feel comfortable with Pax making the calls.
mike s

Northbrook, IL

#22 Nov 19, 2008
Pete wrote:
People are being rude to Noah. Noah is NBA-ready! He has a place in the NBA.
Just not as a player. He'd make a great mascot for a team somewhere, I'm sure.
Trade him for some United Center nachos!
great idea! an nba scout walking around the arena with a cognac in hand. family fun for everyone...

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